I'm a little confused about the goal of the expanded whitelist. When initially announced, the stated purpose was to give the weapons a real shot, in serious competitive play- would they be that bad? The entire competitive community willingly or unwillingly took part in this experiment.

So, we got some data out of that. The atomizer and BASE jumper make 6s much less fun and less skillful, so they need to stay banned, at least in their current form. The air strike, beggars bazooka, the powerjack? They didn't really cause any problems, so there's no point in banning them.

There are some weapons that were previously banned that have divided opinions though, having given them months of serious play to test how they fit into 6s. Rescue ranger, Natascha, and Jarate received the most complaints. Now, with the stated goal of the global whitelist, it's completely reasonable, and should be expected, that we have an honest discussion about whether to reban them. In my own experience, they haven't bothered me much- but the overall community's opinion is valuable feedback and what matters.

After all, isn't banning a weapon after giving it a try the strongest possible feedback to Valve? I sure hope they know the Atomizer and BASE jumper need to be changed in order to be whitelisted.

Ignoring feedback on the global whitelist defeats the entire purpose of its existence.

Newbie mixes is a treasure. When I was frustrated with a season of ugc, tf2center being horrible, and not knowing what to do to improve, I found newbie mixes. The difference it made in my ability to learn 6s was astounding- no other resource came anywhere near teaching me so much about the game, as quickly, and as effectively as newbie mixes.

After two seasons of UGC, not knowing how to actually get onto an open team, newbie mixes was there again. I got placed with an awesome group of teammates, with an excellent mentor, and had a really fun season.

None of this would have likely happened without newbie mixes.

Every time I talk to somebody who wants to get into competitive, I point them to newbie mixes. WITHOUT FAIL, the ones who play in them tell me it was really fun and they are really excited to play more competitive tf2.

There were 11 open teams formed in the most recent newbie mix team drive. That's probably around 50-70 players who played in ESEA that wouldn't have otherwise.

I hope somebody steps up. Save newbie mixes!

I've only really been bothered by the natascha, and that was just one time, on product. I'm sure others have had different experiences, but I think the effect the looser whitelist has had on how fun 6s is is greatly exaggerated.

Bump

Still looking. Hoping to find a team that wants to work hard to improve and have some fun this season!

There are two main NA TF2 leagues: UGC, and ESEA. ESEA is a paid league, and only has 6s. UGC is a free league, and has divisions for both 6s and highlander. Highlander is a 9v9 game mode with one of each class on each team. 6s is a 6v6 game mode that is usually played with a medic, a demo, two scouts, and two soldiers on each team.

If you are new to competitive TF2 and want to find a team to play heavy for, you should try to find a UGC Steel highlander team to join. ESEA Open is a 6s league, and teams generally don't use a heavy in most situations.

Here is where you can find threads posted by leaders looking for players for UGC Highlander: http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?7-North-America

Here is where you can post an LFT thread of your own, for teams to find you and offer a tryout if they want: http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/forumdisplay.php?6-North-America

This forum isn't a good place to find highlander or UGC teams, as it's mostly focused on ESEA and 6s.

Good luck in your search for a team! I hope you try out 6s one day, it's a lot of fun :)

I've said it before and I'll say it again because this should be about Thor.

Great player, great attitude, great medic, amazing teammate, TRY HIM OUT

paging gatsan

The quality is the same *edit: in tf2 and cs:go, as of the smissmas update

It's the exact same audio codec, any difference you think you noticed is from your bias of what to expect, or the quality of somebody's mic.

If for some reason Snakewater had a way lower average game rating from all players, it would be pretty justifiable to swap it out

This would be my assumption as well, but I ran a scan yesterday and nothing came up. Of course, Avast might have missed something, but I find that less likely in this case because:

http://www.teamfortress.tv/37536/site-keeps-redirecting
http://www.teamfortress.tv/37121/ransomware-advertisements
http://www.teamfortress.tv/36045/tftv-continuously-redirecting

Between those threads, there are 15 different people reporting the same issue, starting 3 months ago.

I've seen a couple threads mentioning this problem, but never to this extent.

For the past while (at least a month or two?) while browsing TFTV, it's been occasionally opening new tabs (without me clicking on anything?) to some kinda suspect websites. It hadn't gotten this bad before, but just now while browsing, this happened:

https://i.gyazo.com/94942d5c8e38a824f71dc04b453c4b06.png

This isn't acceptable. I didn't want to, but sadly I have to turn adblock back on for TFTV. This needs to be addressed.

Thanks

Edit: previous threads, starting 3 months ago, reporting the same issue
http://www.teamfortress.tv/36045/tftv-continuously-redirecting
http://www.teamfortress.tv/37121/ransomware-advertisements
http://www.teamfortress.tv/37536/site-keeps-redirecting

edit again: thanks for the response enigma. I hope the problem gets dealt with on the network's end sooner or later! Merry christmas all :)

You won't be okay at it for a long time, but it's exhilarating and fun and any success you do have feels very very very rewarding.

I had this happen to me on cp_cardinal, and it's also happening here:

this is constantly spammed in console, and when it is, my game feels choppy in an offline server despite having like 500 fps. It sometimes stops depending on where I am in the map and what direction I look, but I can't isolate any particular common factor

Phi said it was caused by "incorrectly formatted model textures within the Frontline pack" and fixed it pretty quickly so if you need help you could probably shoot her a message

Hey, I don't think people are calling your video bad as much as you think. This just generally isn't the type of thing that gets posted on this website, you'll have to withstand the memes at your expense

you don't have to pay money to play pugs on faceit