I'm mostly think about the scout encounter indoors or when they run into you to force you to do 80dmg to yourself

I know how it works, but why though

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Does anybody know how exactly this will affect the game?

Additionally does anyone know if https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYfx64j3BGc is still an issue or if this has been patched?

Lastly, if they're not gonna fix the sticky det bug I would like to know why. I'm 100% sure they've heard about it. Along with that bug, I would also like to know why soldiers with gunboats deal 80 damage to themselves if they also hit an enemy (even if they perform a rocket-jump, which are said to have reduced self-inflicted damage according to the item's description)

His opponent doesn't know how to play though

fixed for next version, ty.

Cool, nobody including me noticed this before. Same issue on default badlands.

It's a less powerful replacement for the lamp, backcap spot. (people can check it from lobby unlike the lamp.)

Unless you have wallhacks, scout is favoured since they can run past and meatshot before you have time to react. Also, peaker's advantage. Holding normally as soldier is still better. I don't see this as being an issue on any level really. (Maybe the aesthetic of it)

b5 leaked

Not for the average tf2 player, or the average new competitive player.

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A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders

cylindrical projectile hitboxes
fix splash damage
make soldiers & demomen able to direct other classes from close range without doing 100 damage to themselves
slightly reduce hitscan knockback
continuous dev support
similar humour and artstyle

revamping several weapons entirely to more dynamically change how a class plays (like gunboats, kritzkrieg) instead of having weapons that are plain stat changes

removing airblast from pyro
giving mapmakers better and more efficient tools
slightly increase rocket base projectile speed, decrease blast radius

de-incentivize running perma heavy, perma engineer, sniper, spy, pyro and have some sort of restriction for "specialist" classes (So you just can't whip out a level 3 sentry, pyro and a heavy on last point every time, can't go sniper in every slight stalemate etc)

After another fast runthrough:

- Way too much ammo on the roof. The danger of having too much ammo is it makes engineer a lot more viable, which I personally think shouldn't be a goal of any map.

- Still many crammed doorways

- The fence outside spawn is really low, make it obvious you can't walk outside the map.

- Cliffside health kit house is too big/too close to the main building, very small gap in drop.

- Ramp room next to the shutter, I really like it. What's worth experimenting is flipping the ramps around, and also I feel like there might be too much space & almost impossible to chase down a scout frag in the lobby.

- There are 5 exits from lobby to the main area. This will make it fairly easy to get flanked, but I don't know if it matters as much as it's koth map and the flanks on either side of the point (I will call them Cliffside and Pitside for simplicity.

- Any reason in particular you have a tiny balcony and straight ramp between lobby and second? I think it would work better by just having a sideways ramp or a straight ramp (and then flipping the orange dev wall inside small healthkit room.)

I blame valve they should have patched this and many other things years ago.

Just some initial thoughts on the map, didn't run through it very thoroughly:

- I really like the idea of having crammed "doorways without roof" outside, because it allows people to go around and jump over, while also making splash easy to hit on scouts
- Some areas seem really crammed, especially the underground passage between spawn and mid area, as well asa the area around the house with a medium healthkit outside the point. (I think instead of having extremely narrow gaps separating vertical floors it would be better to extending it and just creating a roof, or contracting it, giving players more space to move.
- It's interesting that the point is indoors.
- With mirrored symmetry, I feel like having health packs next to ammopacks with different distances between both teams is kind of messy, or maybe I'm too organized. I think the pack should be in the middle instead.
- The white sphere-roof is not very intuitive for movement. i personally would use a more simple shape so people can get a better understanding on the movement on top of the surface and the splash damage spread.
- I think the map has some good potential. I think you should make sure there's both interesting areas to fight in both inside & outside, so people will put up with shooting enemy gamers indoors.

This is pretty cool. If a concern is that there's no action maybe he could play a couple of eu pugs, you never know,.