https://www.strawpoll.me/16255076

TFCL are giving v!s's team third place because they forfeited the grand final against b4nny. They did not inform the players that they would be penalized for not playing out the final, and did not inform them that the other team playing the grand final wasn't a showmatch as they assumed when checking the stream before heading off. They won the semifinal and decided not to play because they figured they were at a ping disadvantaged, tired, and playing against one of the historically best ultiduo teams in the game.

How is this unsportsmanlike???

http://www.teamfortress.tv/user/yuu Username is taken

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TL;DR: PUGs don't reflect skill level and shouldn't be taken at face value, this being your first season on medic you are bound to learn a ton especially with someone as good as Screwball mentoring you. However, expecting high open without having any high open contacts, being known amongst the high open scene (due to not pugging with them), and not having any significant experience you are going to be let down and your medic attitude will consume you as it did me 3 years ago

Hey man just wanted to let you know that i've been in just about the same exact scenario as you when I moved to ESEA and if this is your attitude you will not have a good time.
I was a steel soldier in UGC for a number of seasons in 6s and 4s and decided to move up to ESEA on medic because of the stigma that "because medic doesn't have to aim its easy to be high open on and i can make playoffs fast and get good quick." I switched to medic and started getting high open/low IM players to ring me for scrims (I am VERY sorry to those who endured my aids medic play during season 20) or demo review with me. (also huge shoutouts to marmaloo and apex predator for putting up with me back then)

Like you, I was also under the premonition that I was better than I was because the players around me were bad and medic can't protect himself like the other classes (save for maybe demo but thats a different discussion) and blamed my team in pugs and TF2Centers (back before the drama when it was the cool place to play tf2 off of scrims and inhouses).

This attitude is VERY BAD. This WILL lead to you developing an ego, you WILL become a tilter, and you WILL become a toxic piece of shit. It took me 4 seasons of ESEA to step back, reevaluate, and realize the issue. Learn from my (and other medics before me, im not the first medic to ego out when their teammates were equally as inexperienced but had to both aim and think) experiences and pitch yourself as a low-mid open player.

If people are praising you in pugs or whatever that's great and a good sign that you have potential on medic but don't let that praise get to your head, especially if that praise is not coming from players that are at the skill level they are claiming you should play at. Try to be realistic with yourself. "Have I played with other players who are generally considered high open?" "If Yes, have i performed well?" If the answer is no, you are turning into S22 me and that is not good.

I wish for the best for you and I hope you have a breakout performance in ESEA (especially with ScrewB, dude knows how to play medic for real) but considering you are a steel soldier with no medic or esea experience you will need to learn stupidly quick and/or grind mechanics hard and get god movement/bows really fast to stand a chance amongst the other playoff medics.

hey I don't mean to discourage you as I'm sure you mean well, but high open is really difficult to manage for most people with no ESEA experience. Also, without making at least a season of ESEA a joining requirement, I don't see how you're going to manage to pick up players that will be playoffs capable.
Also

The only person i've ever met that didnt have a mic in ESEA was Mute, and that's because they're literally mute and use TTS binds to communicate. This kind of inexperience with the ESEA community is telling of how rude of an awakening you're in for this season in your jump from UGC to ESEA.

I wish you the best of luck next season in ESEA, but you're better off more accurately describing your skill level so you don't come off the wrong way.

Edit: Grammar is hard

https://clips.twitch.tv/OpenStrangePuppyRiPepperonis

if these are run well am very excited for them!

god this thread is such a fucking depressing read

one of the worst parts to me is the ratio of people who understand that it's unacceptable to bash the LGBT community and use blatantly racist language and those who defend its use. Like is it that hard to just not be a degenerate to others, and ignore them or use regular trash talk/banter?

You take a quick glance at our community and quotes like this one from Cornpop's twitter make sense: we raise thousands for teams to attend intercontinental competitions, many more thousands for various charity causes, and produce talents that go on to do amazing things in other games (Lange creating nodeCG and working with GDQ, Dashner working production for a number of high-tier esport events are the two that come to my mind as a producer myself).

However, once you get pulled into the community, you find incredibly quickly that it's filled with nothing but toxicity, circlejerks, and blatant bigotry that's widespread through the competitive scene globally. Honestly seeing not only events like this occur, but also the way that many in the community respond makes me very embarrassed to call myself a part of the community.

you're wrong and i only need 1 statline to prove it
http://logs.tf/1973542
bear playing chaos gullywash pyro fucks people on lan

-insane at scout
-still pretty insane on soldier
-has really neat curly hair

what more could you ask for, pick this man up now.

watching the same team win every single season and lan
at this point i'm kind of glad froyo don't attend RGB because at least that lan is still particularly competitive/exciting/unpredictable

LFT Writeup writer

loved meeting john milter at RGB but gotta root for my girl, go fygg!

Hey, took some time and threw together an LFT spreadsheet for people who have posted either here or in their league LFTs expressing interest ing playing at LAN. If you'd like to be added or removed from this just lmk

https://goo.gl/sZAcLV

puzza is fuckin BACK
cool gamer, if he's been playing and improving since the last time i saw him he'll be a monster.

just got back from a concert on the slayer farewell tour, got to see napalm death, testament, anthrax, lamb of god, and a 2 hour slayer set back to back with front row seats, will be posting pics/vids when i get my phone charged back up. Was a fucking fantastic show