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#205 The State of TF2, Post-Valve Meetings in TF2 General Discussion
MR_SLINBut I look at it this way -- the TF2 dev team is pivoting right now, moving from years and years of casual development to now supporting a competitive format.

Objectively that isn't the case though, they've made a system that offers something that their new competitor offers to a minimal level of quality (it works), there's no clear change of direction to making the game fundamentally competitively focused though.

In this regard the changes to the casual format were far more significant and really looked like they might be trying to push something big, but the massive backlash and reversal of many of those changes probably points to the dev team reassessing their priorities and their confidence in the wider player base's willingness to change mindset.

posted about 8 years ago
#27 TF2 Blog: "What We're Up To" in TF2 General Discussion

Valve posts an update on matchmaking progress. Competitive TF2 forum comments on the impact on trading. What the fuck is going on.

posted about 8 years ago
#182 The State of TF2, Post-Valve Meetings in TF2 General Discussion
MR_SLINValve doesn't care about weapon balancing right now. Who cares if a weapon is overpowered in 6v6 if the final competitive format is 7v7? 4v4? 5v5? What if a weapon is overpowered with class limit 2 but not with class limit 3?

Whether an unlock is "overpowered" is hardly the point, you're missing the subtlety of the argument. Many of these weapons have been around for years and are aimed purely at casual play and have literally no place in a competitive environment yet their effects are so strong that they have to be included. The situation has been tolerable because whitelist is a thing, but if Valve are committing to MM then that's no longer the case.

Purely fun mechanics or mechanics made to make up for the inherent randomness of pub play can no longer be strong enough to have an impact competitively and they simply have to do something about it, once again the parachute is fucking ridiculous in this regard, the vitasaw is another example.

They don't need to consider "balance" to do this, they have to commit to a competitive mindset - it is a completely different matter. They can include weird shit that is basically ineffective and players who just like to pub with odd loadouts can still do so. From a game design perspective that's both fine and necessary.

"Balance" isn't the key, it's about putting the skill of competitive play first. You can't have a no-whitelist MM without making those changes and have it taken seriously, it doesn't matter how many players you have or what ruleset, in fact changing them is probably a prerequisite for any format to work. Some items are simply too powerful for the low skill anti-competitive mechanic they introduce and you don't need to argue about balance to change them.

posted about 8 years ago
#559 Donald Trump in World Events
eeeSaying we should back out at this point is naive though in my opinion. It assumes that the Middle East could be self-sustaining against foreign interests without the West's help (which seems unlikely) and it assumes that political forces that lead to both terrorism and oppression would simply cease to exist or be quelled from within.

They don't come entirely from within though do they?

posted about 8 years ago
#152 The State of TF2, Post-Valve Meetings in TF2 General Discussion
HildrethI echo your sentiments, the idea of cash injection of the size needed to boost TF2's profile to the sought after level is so unrealistic, it's almost absurd we're trying. Keep trying though, it's commendable, even if at best MM will incur the same sort of effect to the game as a previously successful Newbie Cup. Even something of the level of the HCC would be an achievement.

It's not completely out of the question. Valve have to consider what opportunities there are in the current environment, things are very different now to how they were when TF2 was released and it's presence in the current world, streaming, esports, etc is very low. They could take the time to develop a new IP like Blizzard did or they could revive TF2 which still has a very large player base.

Some things they've done seem encouraging but lack of activity on other fronts, particularly gameplay, is baffling.

posted about 8 years ago
#130 The State of TF2, Post-Valve Meetings in TF2 General Discussion
HildrethIf Gaben puts up a shed load of funds he will have to:

- Greate and maintain a regulatory body that governs the core rules/formats/tournaments/whitelist (basically everything admins do today) and other factors to take into account (There are a lot; ranging from legal to good governance).
- Ensure there is adequate funding for leagues/tournaments/events/community projects...etc to be invested
- Invest in the infrastructure of the game from grassroot level up to professional level, this can be in the form of MM but must also include other bridging services such as functionality of websites, pickup systems, guides, resources, marketing, advertisement and so forth.
- Cost of maintenance of all above aspects if not already mentioned (ie, staff costs, hardware costs,,,etc).
- An achievable business plan in place to cover the costs of the aforementioned points as well as produce profit.

Presumably rules and regulations would be arrived at by whatever supposed process will be in place to improve MM by whatever mysterious method. It would be nice if there was any evidence at all that they were actually doing it.

Funding wise and ROI it's mostly a matter of publicity targets in terms of stream views, social activity, etc. Judging from tftv Blizzard have acquired not only their competitive players but their already meagre viewing numbers despite Valve making global in-game announcements for i58.

Hardware and all that stuff just gets absorbed into their massive existing global server operations.

posted about 8 years ago
#124 The State of TF2, Post-Valve Meetings in TF2 General Discussion

When Blizzard make a huge fuck up in Overwatch they act - hero limit 1 for example, grossly overpowered heroes receiving regular balance patches another. In other games if they make a fun mechanic that accidentally turns out to be really powerful in competitive they nerf it.

Having decided to make MM Valve have got a laundry list of huge competitive fuckups they made years ago that they're ignoring.

Releasing unlocks that negate a class's primary weaknesses for negligible penalties. Unlocks that remove significant skill considerations from the game, that reward playing stupidly, that ape a mechanical skill for free are all obvious candidates for reworking if they're taking MM seriously. The parachute is totally egregious. The lack of class limits is huge and completely untouched. There are queue number considerations for this, but failing to incentivise people onto ladder in enough numbers is also their fault. Give them a fucking hat.

Yes they have to ensure it remains accessible so a middle road between the hardcore skill intensive format we have and a more widely appealing format they will want so that new players can experience some success needs to be found, but they're not even trying to tweak gameplay and it's been months. The TF2 team isn't that small, it's not 3 people, there are enough to look at gameplay considerations.

posted about 8 years ago
#109 Leaked Donald Trump Comments in World Events
-5tv-ignorant question ik but what is Trump's appeal?

The same appeal that supposedly outsider politicians are enjoying everywhere in the west. The financial crash of 2008 has left us with falling or stagnant living standards and nobody in the traditional political classes have any solutions to never ending austerity. The way is open for populists peddling easy answers and capitalising on widespread grievances on the right and left to make hay.

Where mainstream established politicians have grown complacent they've fallen to populist demagogues, Brexit, the British labour party, the Republican presidential nomination. Clinton wasn't complacent and used the political machine she had a significant hand in creating to secure her nomination - that's politics, but it's also a stick with which to beat her.

Everyone knows mainstream politicians are hopelessly compromised by industry and vested interests to the extent that in many minds the paradox that a business man would be cleaner because he is openly corrupt makes sense. It's cynicism manifesting to an extreme degree and it's dangerous, but there's nothing on the horizon that looks like breaking the cycle.

posted about 8 years ago
#30 Leaked Donald Trump Comments in World Events

Guys, can't we just agree they're both politicians, sub-human scum who should be burned at the stake, and their dedicated follower cast from nearby high places? It would make things so much better for everybody else

posted about 8 years ago
#12 Pentagon paid PR firm $540mn to make fake terroris in World Events
ShpeeismeThe money is a bribe. They're bribing a UK Public Relations company to ruin their reputation and mislead the entire world. (and a bit of cost to make the videos I guess)

This implies that Bell Pottinger were in some way a normal PR company or previously untainted by dubious political motivations. Nothing is further from the truth, they always have taken anybody's money to do anything, cover up human rights abuses, corrupt politicians, the list is endless and they are notorious for it in the UK. I'd say smearing Islamic extremists is on the more acceptable side of what they normally do. Maybe that's why it cost so much, not morally reprehensible enough.

posted about 8 years ago
#64 sigafoo's Challenge Cup in TF2 General Discussion

NA only? Any suggestions on handling ping disadvantage/server allocation if not?

posted about 8 years ago
#121 Valve, TF2 prize money and us in TF2 General Discussion
panda106source

Every time anyone reports that they've been down there, except geel, they always come back with the same message

posted about 8 years ago
#116 Valve, TF2 prize money and us in TF2 General Discussion
seanbudYou are right that such a drastic change based on an assumption would probably be a bad idea. Maybe one of these Valve visits or some response from Jill or whoever would give us a better idea what would need to happen for them to back a tournament.

They have told us, they want to see numbers. Where those numbers need to show up we don't really know. My guess would be they want to see their ladder heavily populated and maybe overall player numbers going up in relation to that.

The ladder first release wasn't good, it's being improved slowly and it's not where it needs to be to be that successful yet. They have a shit load of background work to do to make those improvements, updating TF2 to the current steam server architecture, etc. So progress is slow, but I don't think they've ever done anything other than be clear it depends on engagement with the format. If the competitive game is compelling enough to get a lot of players they will support it.

You're right they've thrown us a bone but the only way it's manifested itself so far is legitimacy. Arguments about TF2 not being competitive, 6v6 not being a meaningful format, etc, have all melted away - they're in the game and that's it. Places like faceit are now moving to include TF2, ESEA have kept TF2 purely because of the MM announcement. People who think there have been no benefits, those things wouldn't exist right now without it.

posted about 8 years ago
#66 Valve, TF2 prize money and us in TF2 General Discussion
89zombiezr/tf2 gets plastered with clips yeah but they dont get nearly as much attention as shitty memes, the general populace of tf2 doesnt give 2 shits about comp because they have no reason to.

Pretty sure shitty memes get quite a lot of traction on tftv too

posted about 8 years ago
#47 Valve, TF2 prize money and us in TF2 General Discussion
the301stspartanDont u guys get bored of these threads? Some nerd has money left over, flies to valve, they don't give a shit and don't tell him anything new but he feels like the next b4nny competitive spokesperson so he lets us know that valve don't care but with a twist, then there's 10 pages of the same "future of competitive tf2" thread that makes up like half of tf.tv now and in the end, the whole thing gets 0 attention from valve and everyone forgot their own posts by the time the next thread happens and they post the same things here.

http://www.aradani.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/wotlogo.jpg

How ironic

posted about 8 years ago
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