It's important because it allows anyone to turn items back into cash, so it's part of the idea of items as an alternative currency or trading medium with real value. Valve don't have to allow it, they can block their bots, but they do. The argument takes in several different angles and says the whole picture is questionable. Other publishers stay well clear of this area. Whether the courts will agree we don't know.

That is a good article, Valve's willingness to allow a smooth transition between cash and items through item sales sites without the restriction of the steam wallet seems to leave them vulnerable when other publishers have avoided this.

There's no single answer, it's sad to see someone who has taken the £350 million bs and put it together in their mind, and decided the NHS will die if we stay in the EU without that money when in reality it's never going to materialise. It's sad to see people think they have no democracy or sovereignty when they can leave with a vote - something you can only do if you are democratic and sovereign. It was never taken away, we simply agreed to cooperate.

This is the art of politics, you say enough to let people impress their own fears, prejudices and beliefs onto what you're saying. None of them will get what they want.

That's why I think it needs to be given proper scrutiny. It would impact Valve being able to delete accounts and delete items - you wouldn't be able to just do that without proper authority if they were property. They'd have to ramp up their service in terms of item security and accountability more because their legal duties would increase. It also involves the strength of the T&Cs, I haven't read them in any detail so I'm taking a bit of a leap but I imagine they refer only to the service and make it clear the context you're participating in.

As you say though nobody thinks of them or behaves with them as anything other than their own property and actual use has a lot of legal force over obscure agreements nobody reads. It's been something that has been around for ages with software in different guises around licenses and unenforceable EULAs.

In the case of Farage he's spent almost his whole adult life as a market trader. He has the typical distrust or contempt for regulation despite de-regulated markets regularly bringing about catastrophe, again see the 2008 crisis. Removing the UK from EU market regulations is potentially of benefit to him and his professional associates. He is financially backed by a hedge fund manager.

The problem with trust in experts is the 2008 crash. The economy hasn't recovered, for ordinary people anyway, and which experts saw that coming or did something to prevent it? Anybody who had doubts was shouted down. There's no trust in politics, politicians, experts, national or international institutions - they have no credibility any more. Everyone assumes they're corrupt because many of them are corrupt.

What most voters don't realise is that none of the attacks or implied promises made during the campaign will come to pass. The French and Germans are already making noises about picking up city of London business and that would be a disaster, the UK economy leans heavily on finance. We must negotiate free movement of capital and there are only a few things that could balance that, most of of which were denounced by leavers during the campaign.

It would be good if this gets beyond the initial stages and some of the issues around game items and their real world value gets thrashed out in court. Most games companies take the stance that they have no individual value or worth and they're part of a service, not actual property. This has been coming for a while.

It won't be presented as breaking up the NHS. That's the point of being a politician

No that is the same, the leadership of leave are hard core right wingers. Johnson and Gove are pure neo-conservatives, which is in remarkable contrast to your statement about the disdain of elites earlier. You couldn't get two more blatant political and social insiders who have unrelentingly used rhetoric to exploit ignorance and prejudice. Johnson under cover of being a lovable buffoon, Gove under cover of being an ultra-patriotic would-be intellectual.

e: That doesn't include Farage of course, another public (private school for American readers) schoolboy, a city insider, and a more blatant charlatan you couldn't find. Happy to be used as a battering ram saying things that Tory candidates wouldn't dare.

It's already being deliberately underfunded, a cynic might assume this is to force a crisis and for private care to take up the slack. We're heading towards your system much faster than you're moving to ours.

That's wrong

People consider the free movement of people in the EU as immigration as well. The fact we're quite likely to negotiate a deal that includes that despite not being in the EU any more is something that's escaped them.

The demographic leanings have been established in detailed polling and research for months, this is nothing new.

This is debatable, but there's no fucking way I'm getting into it

I don't think their currency has fallen quite as far as ours has which might derail that calculation. The reality is that nobody know for sure what will come next, and bullishly predicting imminent prosperity has as much credibility as predicting the apocalypse.