Level of delusion in this thread is disturbing.

ESEA is still P2P, even if it is less expensive than previously, the very notion of P2P still exists.

Secondly, level of interest in TF2 isn't high enough for this to be anywhere near sustainable beyond one season, best case scenario ESEA gets 20 new teams, downward trend resumes, ESEA would have to keep marketing offers to keep the new level of growth sustainable.

Thirdly I doubt anyone from ESEA actually did any research on what the demographics who play UGC but not ESEA actually want in a league, I don't think the answer is "to be a little less cheaper to play" - When you put community leagues and P2P leagues together in TF2, the only advantage ESEA has is prizes (of which are meaningless to the average newer player) or are counteracted by being by products of something people do not see the need to pay for due to the alternatives (stats, servers, forums etc).

The P2P model doesn't work in TF2, as proven throughout history and when the community is half its size today than it was 5-6 years ago, if anyone truly believes this will have any impact at all then you're extremely deluded. I would love to see P2P leagues being successful in TF2, but this is just some cheap ploy which will not work even if UGC advertised it on their forums or not.

Time to wake up TFTV.

Practise, Practise, Practise.

Watch Demos of yourself and others, scrutinize your game intensely.

Practise some more.

Understand mental aspects of the game.

Practise more.

Understand teamwork and other people, how your role fits into the team.

Keep practising.

Don't ever stop trying to improve yourself even if you manage to achieve your goals.

Then after 11k hours, realize you wasted your life - Retire and troll twitch chat.

https://clips.twitch.tv/SincereSolidOysterDeIlluminati

Yah this forum is doing a really good job of changing his nature.

Couple more threads I can see b4nny being a born again Christian!

If you don't like him being obnoxious to people regarding PUGs get him banned from the website, I am pretty sure it's against the rules. If you don't like him being obnoxious to you personally, then don't talk to him.

Grow up kid.

B4nny cares more about winning than anything else in the world, who knew.

I dunno why people have to dramatize everything comes from this guy, it's honestly as pathetic as the comments itself.

Let the guy be obsessed with winning, it's his thing.

Everyone drops but real Q is who can pick themselves up? :thinking:

England with Ben Stokes is PogChamp. Shame he's a moron.

Yes but you would be naive to think this would not affect the rest of the world either - How big I don't know.

Except his family who are grieving, or his friends like the people who worked closely with him on UGC or played with him. This kid is a disgrace to the community, I don't understand why he thinks it's okay, all he has to do is imagine someone he cares about passing away and wonder what he'd think if someone did the same thing.

Only thing that can save him any grace is if he apologizes immediately to the family of Miggy and his friends affected by the tragic loss, otherwise I hope this guy isn't seen again in TF2 anywhere. Pathetic.

https://clips.twitch.tv/TemperedBenevolentFrogNerfRedBlaster

Only spoke to Miggy a few times, it was obvious from the conversations I had he had an overwhelming passion for the community and for TF2, a very sad day for this game. RIP.

Try here: https://hlpugs.tf/

Still waiting for your message to us from when to schedule btw.

I thought you meant next Thursday, as week 7 game was played yesterday so I assumed it was still week 7. Simple misunderstanding, not a big deal we can reschedule easily, how about you talk to us instead of play this "who's to blame game" on the forums.

No we don't the game isn't scheduled.