They were talking about it on the sports radio station I listen to.
"I'd have my rooster out if I scored 4 goals, I'd have my rooster out and stroking it".
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They were talking about it on the sports radio station I listen to.
"I'd have my rooster out if I scored 4 goals, I'd have my rooster out and stroking it".
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I'm glad a lot of people have spoken up, it makes my job a lot easier. I wanna start off by saying something that I think is the basis for most complaints.
This is the first time in years that teams have been forced to play outside their skill bracket. I'm talking about invite vs open type skill differential. When I started playing SC2, I was diamond a few months in. It literally tooks me a year to ever make it past round 2 in any tournament that had money prizes just because I always played against better player. Obviously, I kept playing tourneys and nowadays I'm usually surprised if I don't get past r3. What I'm trying to say is that, when prizes are on the line and people want to win, you're gonna get raped. Whenever I played against someone that was GM, I was always excited to really see how I scaled up because I always believed I could pull off an upset.
With that said, I'm not going to change the main tournament so it's easier for lower level teams. The best idea I've seen so far is the consolation tournament which I'm heavily considering. Ok, now onto actual post.
-Do double elim
Lol no 5 hour tournament
truktrukCan't you make it so each team trades you 6 craft hats for entry (1 for each person) and the top two teams get the winnings (1/3 to 2nd, 2/3's to winner)? I don't think the prizes need to be that amazing, at least at first. Having something to win is a cool enough incentive. The raffle idea isn't the greatest IMO.
As far as making it so b4nny's team doesn't win every week, maybe make it so you draft teams? I don't really know how that would work properly but some sort of draft system with a pool of people seems like it could make every game interesting.
I really against the idea of an entry fee. I don't like limiting the people interested as well the fact that this would make the tournament less enjoyable for lower level teams as they are practically donating hats to get 5-0'ed. Also, the reason I'm pretty dead set on monetary prizes is that not everyone likes/wants hats.
breloomyou could portion out the prize money for different "awards" other than first place. like money to best performance from an open team, best pug team, best play on stream, etc. this does throw some randomness via seeding and what match you stream in though
Answered your on question, I can't possibly watch every single match.
fosterAlso I really enjoyed it, but the problem I see is what is the ultimate goal of FnF? Is it supposed to be a tournament that people can try their best to win at, or is it supposed to be a for-fun, relaxed atmosphere tournament.
This tournament should be whatever you want it to be. Want to try really hard and use your real team? Go for it. You wanna have fun and throw together a pug team? Nobody is stopping you. I can't force teams to not try. There was an idea where use fun setups and shit like that such as sniper/spy or no stock weapons. I honestly hate that shit. I truly feel the most fun variation of TF2 is 6v6 and you're playing your hardest. That's what I love to play and that's what I love to watch.
-Invite/b4nny whine
God damn it makes me so angry. I really have never gotten this game's mindset when playing up the ladder. It's just so absolutely pathetic. If I had the chance to play iT, I would relish the opportunity to beat them and then talk shit for the rest of my life (http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=stats&d=match&id=1384426). lolool but seroiusly, How can so many people cry so hard about playing main+ teams? You're not paying for this, it's free. Don't want banny to win, beat him. Polt wins every NA competition always but I've never once seen an sc2 player say "Fuck this, no point in playing, polt will just win". That type of player has quit long ago. I'm just so sick of this general losing whine and how I have to hear it every season with OMG THIS TEAM HAS 3 EX-INVITE PLAYERS, KILLING MOVE THEM UP.
I'm not going to ban banny from playing. Not stop people from winning 2 weeks in a row and I'm sure as fuck not gonna do draft mode (besides the impossible number of people). People can play with who they want and how they want. I could probably rant about this forever but I'll stop here.
Summary
-I will implement consolation tourney
-Double elim will take another 1.5-2 hours so #nope.
-Proceeding with raffle/items idea but might change it in the future.
-Not making this tournament any easier for the sake of making it easier.
Sorry that I'm making another thread. I just wanna make sure I get everyone's feedback.
If you'd like to donate an item, please add me on my main. I'll mark your name down so if the prize stuff doesn't work out, I'll just give it back.
First off, tell me about your experience. Did you have fun, not fun? Why? If your team offclassed, would you be more likely to on class with monetary prizes? To lower level teams that probably lost first, are you discouraged to play again? To all teams, are you planning on playing next week?
Some things that can be up for discussion
-Seeding
This one I enforced seeding. This means r1 is nearly all rolls and r2 is half and half. New teams will have a tough time and probably get 5-0'ed. This might discourage new teams but as we move on and it grows it might get better. Should I keep fixed seeding or randomize? Also, I think fixed seeding is the only way for a fair tournament with single elim. You need double for non-fixed IMO.
-Roster Conformation
I know a few teams used people that weren't on their roster. I was ok with it for this week since there was no prizes but starting next one if prizes are implemented, there will be bans handed out. No worries about that.
-Number of teams
I think the teams that made finals might have suffered from fatigue. If I'm to make it 32, that adds another 30 minutes. Should I keep it at 16 or just let it go?
-Prizes
I'm pretty much set on the raffle idea, it would be as follows. I would, hopefully, get donations of items. Each friday, we'd do a raffle for the items. Earnings of the raffle would go to teams and raffle prize would go to winner. $5 per ticket, you can obv buy unlimited tickets. Also, this would be a way to fund invite teams to LAN, now they gotta work for it.
Now an idea I was toying around with would be quite interesting. After the winner is crowned, they'd come into mumble and guess a number 1 to 5. Randomize for a number. If they guess right, they get the prize pot if not it carries over to next week.
I'm not 100% if this is a good idea. I assume b4nny would be opposed to it because winning doesn't necessarily mean winning. Here are my thoughts:
-Every week it's not won, the prize gets crazier. Obviously, 1 to 5 would mean that statistically, every 5 weeks someone would win. I estimate 100$ a night per prize pool so that'd be 500$. A nice chunk of change.
-If I have a night of weak raffle buys, it'll be compensated by previous weeks buy ins.
I think those are my pros but I'm curious for other thoughts.
I'm planning on doing prizes for next week so I need to start asking for donations. I'm really not sure what amount/type of items would justify buying a 5$ for someone. Ideally, I'd like 2 unusual a night. Is that unreasonable? I know Fully Charged gets a lot of shit and IMO this would be a better item donation because money goes to players AND items go to viewers.
If you'd like to donate, please add me on my main. I'll mark your name down so if the prize stuff doesn't work out, I'll just give it back.
Thanks and hope you had fun.
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Live, this is official stream with djc and ruwin.
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Round 1 - Process
Round 2 - Gullywash
Round 3 - Badlands
First thing to do is add your captain. The first player on the team list is the captain. Please search through my friends list and add the appropriate captain. Once you've agreed to the server, play out the match (30 minutes or first to 5). If neither of you have a server, pm me and I'll set one up for you. If you can't agree to a server, pm me and I'll tiebreak. Forfeit are at 9:10 so get going. Once you've finished your match, send me the score and wait for your next one.
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Flood gates have opened
Quick bump reminder to add my account and tonight is the night.
Some additional information:
-Adding me is not enough to register for this tournament, you must MESSAGE ME with a roster. I'm not hunting around my friend's list for the people that want to play. 16 cap tonight so first come first serve. Everyone will be added at 7:30 est.
-I've created the channel #tf2FnF on IRC. Simply join it to find players or find a team. Post "Looking blahblahblabh"
-Make sure only one person from your teams adds me to register your team. If you have more than one, I'll be mad. Also if two people register the same person, I'll be equally mad.
-Djc and mysterious co-caster will be the official casters for tonight. This doesn't mean they'll cast every event so just leave your feedback for them here.
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-Grand finals will be a veto down from 7 maps (coalplant excluded). Coin flip for first ban / first pick.
Yeah, I have a fuckton of requests. The friends atm are my dota friends since I was using that as my dota alt. I'm only gonna start adding people on friday at 7:30 pm.