It's still not worth the risk of maybe, possibly, him changing his mind later on and imposing rules that don't make sense. Or him literally banning Froyotech for being too good. Or what if he picks a bad league admin, completely by accident, simply because he's uninvolved in the 6s community? We need to (and are lucky enough to be able to!) move to a league run by people who have actually demonstrated interest in the game they're providing. TFCL and especially UGC have notable histories at this point, at the very least proving that they can provide games weekly. Whether people trust them enough to pay into a prizepool is something else, but unless you're b4nny that shouldn't be your primary concern yet.

Edit to say i have nothing against sigafoo as a person. I dont like how hes run his league, and i dont think someone who doesnt like 6s should have the power to have the final say in what goes in it. We deal with enough of that from valve

they never stopped

Fuck i wish i was in im this season

We should treat our forums the way we do our weapon bans; with whitelists instead of blacklists. Just ban everyone plz

Thank god, maybe now we can find league admins who actually like tf2. Tri is a goddamn hero but esea as a whole, fuck those guys, good riddance

ban billdozer

lysol kills 99.9% of enemy gamers

faceit.com // tf2pl.com
pugchamp
tf2center.com exists but gets a lot of shit for good reason
i hear the valve comp queue works for some people? but it doesnt for me anyway
also i think hlpugs.tf plays games sometimes. but its hl. do sigafoo pugs exist?

There's nothing stopping people from trying in Valve MM. When it first came out, you could hop in a 6-stack with all your buds who wanted to be death merchant and find a game, no problem. You can't do that anymore because people stopped playing it, and they stopped playing it because it wasn't fun. It wasn't because of a heap of terrible graphical settings being forced, or bad map picks by Valve, or an 8 year reputation as a casual game, or because competitive is hidden behind a paywall in a F2P game, or because it's filled with hackers--though all of those things are contributing factors, other games have dealt with issues like those and still survived. Community 6s has dealt with some of those issues, along with many others, and still survived. The biggest problem is that Valve's version of competitive, unrestricted 6s, just isn't fun for most people.

I'm not trying to say that if you do enjoy it, that you shouldn't. I'm not saying anyone is wrong to put their money or effort in to try to get people to play this version again. I'm not even saying that it's doomed to fail. All I'm saying is

Because if this fails again, the response from the people who want to play this won't be "oh man, that sucks, but i guess people just don't like this game mode." It'll be "ugh you stupid 6s players are just too stuck up to try anything new." And in a few years, someone will try it again, with the same "no one's ever tried this before" attitude. It drives me nuts.

U rite lol, i guess what i meant to say was how is this different from valve mm?

hmmmmm

also yeah how is this different in any way from the sigafoo thing? im sick to death of people calling obvious shit like no restrictions "new"

the way this is plotted i think it implies all chads are normies, but not all normies are chad

nice !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX-YfuVQmX8

they tryin out there