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#280 PC Build Thread in Hardware

I'm assuming you mean power as on performance, not power consumption.
I really wouldn't recommend going below a 270X/760, especially with an even more powerful CPU, it's just going to bottleneck in everything but TF2.

i5+270X:
Not perfectly within budget, but I don't know when you'll order so it might change again until then. If need be dropping down a bit on the case/monitor, maybe PSU/mobo or a cheaper 270X should fix that easily.

Apparently the deal on the CS450M already ended, so I changed the PSU again.
The Capstone 450 would be perfectly fine, I choose the NEX 650W not so much for the wattage as for being fully modular at the same price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4430 3.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($181.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Apotop 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($72.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 270X 2GB DEVIL Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($94.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: LG 23MP55HQ-P 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $858.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-24 17:24 EDT-0400

posted about 10 years ago
#278 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Sorry, I was a bit busy for the last few days.

#272
CPU: 3 Options:
1. If you're willing to overclock -> G3258 + Cooler (cheaper, same/better performance)
2. i3-4330 (+10$, +1MB L3 Cache)
3. i5-4430 (+50$, a lot more powerful, probably won't matter for anything but TF2 though)
Cooler: Not really needed for an i3
Mobo: Z97 just seems like a waste, B85 is enough.
RAM: fixed
HDD: fine
SSD: Either add one later or drop down the CPU and GPU again
GPU: 270X for 3$ more. Budget even allowed for a 280.
PSU: semi-modular, cheaper, otherwise the same.
Monitor: Why not IPS?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4330 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($127.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Apotop 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.70 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: HIS Radeon R9 280 3GB IceQ OC Video Card ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CSM 450W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($94.99 @ B&H)
Monitor: LG 23MP55HQ-P 60Hz 23.0" Monitor ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $797.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-24 05:40 EDT-0400

#275
What exactly is your price range? 1150$ US, 1150$ AUS or 1600$ AUS?
Also I harbour great hatred for that PSU.

#278
Glad that I could help.

posted about 10 years ago
#7 Lagg with monitor in Off Topic

I don't see the problem.

Anything other than steam messages and flash causing lag?

Steam and Flash being pieces of shit and causing lag is perfectly normal. ("It's not a bug, it's a feature!"/s)

posted about 10 years ago
#5 Lagg with monitor in Off Topic

AMD GPU?

posted about 10 years ago
#270 PC Build Thread in Hardware

No reason to hold off, I don't expect price drops until Q1 2015 now.

posted about 10 years ago
#343 The 120Hz Monitor Thread in Hardware

BenQ XL2411Z > Asus VG248QE
http://teamfortress.tv/thread/20038/asus-vg248qe-vs-benq-xl2411z/?page=1#20

posted about 10 years ago
#268 PC Build Thread in Hardware

The GTX 960 might get postponed to Q1 2015.
GM204 yield rates and demand for 980/970 too high.
Literally everyone is buying one and Maxwell doesn't seem to produce enough "bad" chips to be used for the 960 and cutting them down when the demand for the 980/970 is so high just doesn't make sense.

In other news: nvidia making boatloads of money. Money bin completion planned for Q1 2015 aswell.

posted about 10 years ago
#266 PC Build Thread in Hardware
zigzterFew notes:
Budget-wise 1 grand is really starting to push it, so I don't really want to go over that.

You are going significantly over your budget.
Dust filters are standard. Do you need handles? Full-size ATX isn't ideal if you're going for portable.

I have to revise my motherboard recommendation. I though they carried over the vrms from the Z87X-UD3H but they actually cheaped out a bit.

Also there are so many things wrong with that PSU, I can't even list them all without needing a second post. Just the most obvious things: You'd be buying a PSU above MSRP when the except for the wattage identical 650W model and even the superior 750W model are cheaper.

Something not as obvious: It's built by CWT. C "What does QC mean" W "We forgot to solder that thing on but it sill works" T. http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=363

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($364.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($116.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Cooler Master Storm Scout 2 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($63.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $915.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-06 05:52 EDT-0400

posted about 10 years ago
#261 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Intel officially only supports 1600Mhz max and 1.5V max. It's mostly so no one can blame them if something becomes unstable. You'll just have to enable an XMP profile in the UEFI to get the RAM to run at 2400MHz. Guess whose idea XMP profiles are? Right, intel. They support those speeds (and up to 1.65V), just not officially.

Now you just need to decide wether or not you not you want the option to add a 2nd GPU.
Definitely wait one or two weeks for the GTX 960, even if you still buy a 760 it'll at least be cheaper.

posted about 10 years ago
#25 Steam not launching in Q/A Help

Assuming you did as #10 suggested:

Reinstall windows. That's it.
I mean it won't take longer than waiting another month for a magical solution.

posted about 10 years ago
#259 PC Build Thread in Hardware

Split due to post length limit:

Surprise bonus round, we're not only bringing you one but THREE ECC BUILDS:

C222
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLL-S-O ($145.00)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) ECC RAM 1600MHz ($189.99)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $985.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:53 EDT-0400

C224
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLM-F-O ($184.99)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) ECC RAM 1600MHz ($189.99)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1025.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:54 EDT-0400

C226
2nd GPU possible
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock C226 WS ($209.99)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) ECC RAM 1600MHz ($189.99)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1045.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 06:00 EDT-0400

Average cost to upgrade to ECC is about 130$.

posted about 10 years ago
#258 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#258
UEFI is standard nowadays.
I completely forgot to change it to Canada and to ask you if you want the option to go SLI/adding a Quadro.

Moose approved versions of those builds (maple syrup not included):

SetsulA few possible builds:
Maximum Performance (except for the GPU)
OC, SLI, no ECC, cooler needs to be added later
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($358.32 @ TigerDirect Canada)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($219.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $1039.25
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:22 EDT-0400
Slightly over budget, <1000$ is easily possible though.
E.g. motherboard Asus Z87-A, GPU Asus GTX 760 DirectCU II OC brings the price down to 994.25$.

Less powerful but a lot cheaper
No OC, SLI, no ECC
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Memory Express)
Memory: Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($164.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($219.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX)
Total: $935.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:33 EDT-0400

Cheapest, sacrifing RAM bandwidth and size (2 more modules can be added later, speed is limited to 1600MHz though).
No OC, no SLI, no ECC
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock B85 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($59.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $790.23
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:37 EDT-0400

Bonus build:
non-SLI, Z97 build for comparision with C226.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($279.79 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($78.98 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($143.31 @ TigerDirect Canada)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($115.98 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 760 2GB DirectCU II Video Card ($199.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($54.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $873.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-05 05:43 EDT-0400

posted about 10 years ago
#44 no tuition in germany in Off Topic

I just want to throw two more arguments in here:
Regarding the article #30 linked: Of course higher education isn't free. Nothing is free. But this:

In a typical economic model for financing higher education, the consumer (student) would pay for the good that it consumes (education)

just doesn't feel right.
I know it's a bit different in the US but I'll try to explain why things are the way they are over here.
During an apprenticeship to become a skilled worker (had to paraphrase it, didn't find a single word for it), you don't pay for your "education", you get payed. Why? At first other workers will have to put time into teaching you, therefore losing the company money. Of course it'll get better, you'll soon make the company more money than it loses because of the worker teaching you not being able to work during that time, but still getting paid. But just hiring would still be cheaper. Why do companies bother with training someone young and unskilled, maybe even straight out of school with no previous experience?
Because they have to. If those who need those workers don't train them, no one will. And you can't just hire someone if there is no one left who can do that job, no matter what you are willing to pay (welcome to supply and demand). The profit you can't make if you don't have workers outweighs the profit you lose by training those workers.

The point is, the worth of the work you did and what you got paid are pretty much equal. So essentially you got trained for free (the company paid for it). Why should higher education be any different?

Now the obvious difference to higher education is:
Companies are neither directly involved in the process of higher education nor do they know who of those studying right now is actually going to for them in the future.

The idea is that since those with higher education in the end will benefit companies in a way that will generate them monetary profit. Other companies will in turn benefit from those companies investing their now higher profit in goods and services that should enable them to further increase their profit. In the end the whole economy will benefit solely because a number of individuals received higher education. However if those individuals do not have the means to acquire higher education it must be the goal of every entity in that economy, persons and companies alike, to help them in order to maximize their own profit. So it is perfectly legitimate that everyone pays for the education of more or less "a select few". In one of the implentations of this system the state sees to that everyone pays their part in form of taxes and the universities see to that those who are best suited (aka those who don't fail the tests) receive that higher education that will later benefit the economy.

In Germany the selection of those best suited is softened up quite a bit because we care not only about the economy but about people aswell. It's fairly easy to change that by cutting budgets (politicians love to cut budgets) so the universities are forced to either lower their quality standards or to accept less students (done by grades so less students -> better average).

Another thing:
Socializing costs can in fact reduce them. You don't pay only your student loans, you pay interest aswell. Assuming the interest rate is greater than the inflation that means you actually pay more than what you need. There is no interest rate on taxes. If the state pays for your education you'll later only have to pay back what you actually needed through taxes. Even if the state is in debt (which is a bad thing and a whole different issue) it'll still get a lower interest rate than your student loans. The cost is probably still spread across the populace to a higher degree, depending on which implementations you compare (student loan payments tax deductable etc.).

Same for retirement pensions, if you have to save up for yourself you have to work against inflation and won't benefit from increasing actual wages in the future. Depending on the ratio of working to non-working population a state-run solution can reduce the costs for the individual significantly.

But not everyone can win, right? So who loses? Simple: The banks. If your states goal is to maximize the banks' profit (wether or not the crippling debt for everyone who persues higher education is a bonus) then sure, go ahead.
But if your state cares more about banks than about you, I'd consider moving.

posted about 10 years ago
#256 PC Build Thread in Hardware

#255
Right now I'm just recommending Xeons whenever one would recommend a non-OC i7. Basically the only i7 worth recommending right now is the 4790K if you a) want to overclock or b) need the world's highest single-threaded performance.

IN-DEPTH EXPLANATION AHEAD, YOU CAN SKIP THIS PARAGRAPH IF YOU WANT.

Traditionally the Xeon E3-12xx are basically the same as an i5 (122x) or an i7 with the same clockrate with the only exception that only those ending on 5 having an iGPU. Their iGPU-less counterparts ending on 0 are cheaper.
The price of 122x (the i5 equivalent) tended to be too close to the 123x's to be cheaper than an i5. There are no 125x and usually no 126x, the 127x are significantly more expensive and not worth it anymore, the 128x are double the 127x's prices for some reason and the 129x almost triple, but the 123x and 124x hit a sweet spot.

The 1230 and 1240 tended to be significantly cheaper than an i7 at only slightly lower speed because you didn't have to pay for an iGPU that you wouldn't use anyway.

Some more details if you're interested:
With the current generation (4xxx for i7s and v3 for the Xeons) Intel has gone absolutely bonkers on the pricing. The clockrates stayed the same, the i7s got more expensive, the Xeons got cheaper.

With the newer versions with the same features (ending on 1 and 6) being 0.1GHz faster AT THE SAME PRICE OR CHEAPER than the corresponding 0 or 5 version it has become absolutely ridiculous.

You can even get a Xeon with higher clock speed AND an iGPU for less than an i7 with the only exceptions being the 4790 and 4790K.

tl;dr
The Xeon E3-1231 v3 just wins a price/performance comparision by a wide margin.
The i7-4790 is 6% faster at best but 20% more expensive.
The i7-4790K is 18% faster at best but 35% more expensive.
The only reasons to even consider the 4790K are a) maximum performance b) overclocking.

posted about 10 years ago
#253 PC Build Thread in Hardware

EDIT: added #252
#252
You need to up your requirements or lower your budget. Both of these build will perform way beyond what you requested and don't come close to your budget. I mean I could push it to 970s in SLI but that's more like Crysis 3/Metro LL 1080p ~120fps, CS:GO max settings ~600fps (rough estimate)
SLI-capable:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1106.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 10:30 EDT-0400

no SLI possible
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($53.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($329.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar Spike MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($29.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1036.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 10:34 EDT-0400

#253
CPUs are never oc'd out of the box. Considering you haven't oc'd before, don't need the absolute highest singlethreaded performance for multithreaded and want/could use ECC, I'd definitely recommend going for a Xeon instead of a "K" i7.

Keep in mind you won't get 2400MHz CL10, you'll get 1600MHz CL11 and probably pay more for it than for 2400. I don't know any server hardware retailers in the US, so you might be able to find 1600 ECC at the price of non-ECC 1600 +10%.

Just judging by newegg's prices going for unbuffered ECC and a comparable motherboard will add about 100-150$.

Rough sketch:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($247.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Open Box ASUS P9D-V ATX ($126.79)
Memory: Crucial 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 ECC 1600MHz ($179.99)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.97 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 760 2GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($184.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $899.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-10-04 09:38 EDT-0400

For comparision:
Open Box ASUS P9D-V
C224, 1x PCIe 3.0 x16

Some more motherboards:
Open Box ASRock E3C224-V+
+Two more SATA3 ports (Marvell controller)
+Two PCIe x16 slots -> second GPU possible (Quadro later on or SLI)
-Both x16 slots running at 3.0 x8 (shouldn't matter too much, only reason I didn't use this oe was to keep iot <900$)

Open Box SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SAE-O
+2 SATA3 ports (ASMedia)
+2 PCIe x16 slots (proper 16/8+8)
+C226 (6x SATA3 instead of 4x SATA3 + 2x SATA2)

Not Open Box:
SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLL-S-O
+not open box
-C222 (2x SATA3 + 4x SATA2)
-2x SATA2 removed so only 4x SATA in total.
-PCIe x16 slot running at 3.0 x8

ASRock E3C224-V+
+Same as above, only new instead of open box

ASRock C226 WS
+not open box
+4 SATA3 ports (2x Marvell SE9172)
+2 PCIe x16 slots (proper 16/8+8)
+C226

My knowledge regarding single-socket Workstation/Server motherboards, availability and pricing of those and ECC RAM in the US is rather limited though.

posted about 10 years ago
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