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Sorry again to bump with such frequency, but there's only a week and a half left in the offseason. Please feel free to shoot me a message.
Sorry to bump again, but it looks like we'll have quite the short offseason and I've hardly had any tryouts as of yet. Feel free to message me if you'd like!
Bump, thanks for the kind words everyone.
There were plenty of reports after the 2013s release about noticeable smoothing, I hadn't heard of anyone "debunking" those accounts and after some quick searching I couldn't find anything for you. Especially because smoothing is present in most every mouse to one degree or another, people may exaggerate or their hardware may amplify the issue, or simply be more sensitive to such.
Here are a couple paint tests, courtesy of some Overclock users:
http://cdn.overclock.net/f/fa/fa292cca_jitterprediction.jpeg
http://cdn.overclock.net/f/fe/fea2b801_NVi0f.png
Precisely! I simplified interpolation to multiplication/division (such as the ~1.25x multiplier with the kingsis lens) and the 2300 cpi step as interpolated due to such a change and the fact that stating it as non-native/interpolated would more easily convey the concept of native being generally preferable, and non-native typically causing issues (as the 2300 step does/did have quite the jitter issue).
Native CPI, generally speaking, refers to those cpi inherent to the sensor and not requiring interpolation (effectively multiplication or division of a native cpi to achieve certain values, and can lead to issues, e.g. pixel skipping or input lag). Due to Zowie's "no software, no bs" approach, their mice are limited to certain cpi values. For those generations of mice you're referring to, those values would be 450/1150/2300. Unfortunately, all of these values are interpolated, as the 3090 has native cpis of 800/3600 to my knowledge.
The 3310 has native cpis in the range of 50-5000, in steps of 50. Effectively, unless the manufacturer has applied a SROM to raise the CPI limit, every cpi step available is native. I hope that answers your question, check out the GeekHack guide for more information on terminology and the like if you'd like to read further.
Edit: For polling rate, 1000hz would be the consensus better option (1ms delay vs. 2ms) if not for issues with some firmware/sensors implementations which can make the 1000hz step have issues, such as instability. For the FK1, I've heard of no such issues.
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I don't know Scizor very well personally, but I've had the chance to play against him a good bit and he's always been really nice and pleasant in our interactions, and is obviously a very skilled player. I'd think he's more than deserving of a good playoff team for next season.
Braided cords mostly became common practice once some mice companies began pushing them a couple/few years back, associating them with quality and increased endurance of said cords. I'd have to at least imagine the marketing campaign was helped by the cord issues persistent with the Logitech G400 and consumers not quite understanding why their mice began to malfunction/die.
Nowadays braided cords are simply a "premium thing", just like LEDs or included software from certain companies for example. They can help with cord safety. The issue is braided cords can fray (as stated), typically cause additional friction on clothed surfaces, more easily catch on corners in part due to said friction and make the cord stiffer (of note, some manufacturers utilize very stiff rubber cords (Logitech) but most are notably less stiff than your typical braided cable).
The finalmouse is a solid mouse when looking at weight, shape and sensor performance. The most outstanding issue would be QC (I ordered one simply to experiment and there was actual scratching and some tiny bits of debris within the box for example). The build quality is also quite poor, though it doesn't much hinder performance in many respects. If it's a mouse which fits criteria you've been searching for then I encourage you to purchase it, finding a suitable mouse with good performance can be difficult. However, it's an absolute joke how overpriced the Finalmouse is when considering it can't get much easier for a manufacturer (you could purchase this OEM shell yourself, there's very very little R&D costs here since basically all they did was take said shell and stick a 3310 in it) and how horrendous they are at providing even basic quality control, which implies further cutting corners and costs while selling their product for $70.
The mouse works, sensor performance is good, but I heavily dissuade anyone from purchasing a Finalmouse if you don't wish to encourage such poor business practices and insane profit margins. Finalmouse did a good thing in specifically listening and going after a desperate market (lightweight, 3310, somewhat small), however I hate to see such a poor precedent set for future endeavors by companies looking to capitalize on neglected portions of the market.
Just as a quick correction, the Naos 7000 has zero sensor acceleration (save a very small consistent acceleration persistent in every sensor); the 3310 is effectively flawless in every respect. The only major sensor issue would be excessive smoothing present with the initial release of the Naos/Avior due to the 7000 cpi SROM implemented by Mionix, which has since been reduced to effectively negligible levels with past firmware updates.