Jon is legendary, and I hope he still stays around in some capacity, regardless if it's the Daily Show or other places.
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SideshowIf anyone (like me) was wondering what happened to poor fragile on the mid where he died instantly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exPgiuhzn2Y
not his fault bless his soul
I remember dying to that, and questioned if sticky damage falloff became magically broken all over again. I only saw the sticky to the left of the stairs. :(
Steve, you're an okay guy.
this is perfect. thank you, kurt.
mustardoverlordhow is almost everything I said wrong? the only difference seems to be that you're saying blacky and not oplaid was the main force behind it, and that the esea admins fell in line really quickly and didn't need a ton of convincing
as to the former point, I remember that oplaid was the team leader so he was the one who talked most about it to torbull, and as to the latter point I never denied that esea weren't super nice about it themselves
What Dustin said was right enough, but I'll respond by going off of these two quotes:
mustardoverlordas to the former point, I remember that oplaid was the team leader so he was the one who talked most about it to torbull, and as to the latter point I never denied that esea weren't super nice about it themselves
mustardoverlordor s6 lan where oplaid got the admins to force a single bo5 finals instead of 2 bo3s for the lower bracket teams due to flight schedule and beat fanom that way
-oplaid was not the one who mostly talked to Torbull / lpkane, it was me. To my knowledge, no one (which would obviously include oplaid) from the other blight team talked to the admins at all. The other blight team took my word for the situation at hand.
-oplaid (nor anyone) forced the admins to do anything. It was purely blight's decision (primarily coming from blackymonster).
-A single bo5 was the format that the admins told us moments before finals, not 2 bo3s.
-The admins said we must play a single bo5 unless the other blight team agreed to do a bo3.
-Eventually we had to settle for a bo3 on blackymonster's terms (we can't choose Viaduct).
-"I never denied that esea weren't super nice about it themselves." Did I say you did? They were reasonable throughout the process, but we were just a little annoyed that we were given no time to warm up at all.
One could misconstrue that you made it seem like it was oplaid's team that had the bad flight schedules, but regardless, you were correct about the flights being the reason for the structure change.
No need to get super defensive about seeing how right or wrong you were, considering I was actually involved in the situation. I wanted to clear up some stuff that wasn't accurate.
dummy-When my Pandemic lineup (reptile/oplaid etc) left pandemic for complexity, the owner of pandemic offered us like $1k to stay on the condition that we cut oplaid because he thought we joined coL because pandemic could no longer pay oplaids writing salary.
I thought Lemley said he wanted to cut Sam because he felt betrayed that Sam asked coL if they were interested in us. Maybe it was both.
mustardoverlordor s6 lan where oplaid got the admins to force a single bo5 finals instead of 2 bo3s for the lower bracket teams due to flight schedule and beat fanom that way
Pretty much all of this is wrong.
This was the only ESEA LAN (to my knowledge) that had lower bracket finals and grand finals on Sunday.
We (blight-fanom) had flights that left around 5 or 6 PM. When we realized there were lower bracket finals to wait for, we were hesitant that we might miss our filghts. We asked blight-own and coL to start a little early, and they said that was fine. However, they ended up getting there late and warmed up for a while, so they basically started at the time they were supposed to (maybe a little later, I forget).
The match went to all three maps. The first two maps took an hour each, and the second map took about 30 minutes. With breaks between each set, it all lasted about three hours or so.
We were then informed that finals were a single bo5, and the only advantage we had is that we got to pick the first two (or maybe three?) maps, and then the rest were random. We figured that because the first match took so long (and because there was a whole different match before grand finals on Sunday), we were running out of time. We asked the other blight team if a single bo3 was acceptable. Some of them were fine with it, some of them were indifferent, but blackymonster (and maybe oplaid) were adamant that they would only do that if we couldn't choose to play Viaduct (easily our best map).
We were at their mercy at this point, so we quickly agreed. While we sat down to warm up, Torbull forced all of us to instantly ready up. We had absolutely no time to warm up, even though the other teams did (on top of a three hour set), and we got fucking destroyed on the first map.
As I've said, I'm pretty sure this is the only ESEA LAN that had lower bracket finals on Sunday, as well as a single bo5 for finals.
blaze I noticed Bdonski with 100 ping as well from time to time, so there were clearly issues on their side as well
Yeah, Bdonski was fine for the first half of Snakewater, but then it jumped to 100-150 for the rest of Snakewater and Badlands..
Knuckles_I'm not sure many teams if any would be so willing to replace their med like froyo did. There are open teams that in the first match of the season would pause for an hour if they had similar issues. Hope ascent realizes how lucky they are they weren't up until 3 am
The original plan was to play our match vs $5 on Monday the 13th, then play our next opponent (which happened to be Froyo) on Tuesday. This is because Shrugger and I were going to EVO on Wednesday, so we set it up so we could get the first two rounds done on Monday and Tueday, and then go to EVO. Shrugger and I wouldn't get back until Tuesday morning, the 21st. Well, then there was the issue with the Monday matches getting fucked up due to the third map never loading. The admins couldn't get it fixed that night, so we had to get the third map played on Tuesday. The 20b vs Froyo third map started at 11:30 EST, so if that went the full hour (barring pauses and other general delays), then if we tried to play Froyo in a bo3 right after, the bo3 would have started at 12:30 AM, potentially lasting as long as roughly 3:30 or 4 AM. And yeah, fuck that. I have work in the morning and it might as well get rescheduled to a different day at that point.
Froyo couldn't play on the Tuesday we got back. So, the match had to be played on Wednesday, the 22nd. It was the final day that the extension could be given due to the ESEA problems early last week. Killing told me that if the match wasn't played on Wednesday, we would be getting a forfeit loss. For anyone who suggests Shrugger and I should have skipped EVO, you're crazy. We booked our flights, hotel and passes before the season started. I'm not going to throw away +$800 when a match can be extended at a later date (and I talked with Killing about it before going, too).
Shade's internet issues on the second map were spontaneous and caused him to lag out completely at times. We were very patient throughout the match for their pauses, but I don't think anyone (Froyo included) were willing to wait at least an hour for Shade's internet to be possibly fixed. There was a pause that lasted about 20 minutes, and we also waited another 20 minutes during pre-game for shade to get his internet back up. They paused once or twice more (and we paused once) but those didn't last that long. Anyway, let me quote tsc:
tscESEA rules state that pauses must be at least five minutes, and after that any team can unpause with a five second warning. So in theory they can be as long as both teams are willing to stand, but as soon as one team wants to end it they can force the game to resume.
I believe teams get two five-minute pauses. We could have forced them to unpause, as they went way over five minutes on most of their pauses, but we were patient and understood their situation. None of us pressured Froyo into getting a sub. At most, all we did was ask for updates on their situation.
So no, we weren't "lucky" that we weren't up until 3 AM, because we probably would have said something if the delay was getting too asinine (and we waited a long time, too). I'm not sure about anyone on Froyo, but Rando and I have work in the morning. We were patient, but we weren't going to wait an unreasonable amount of time for shade to possibly come back, and I believe Froyo felt the same way.
Please don't assume you know all of the details in the situation when posting something like that.
Shrugger, Muffin, Basik, and I will be there.
couch_sitterWhat is the Pro Series TF2 event and how does answering Yes or No to it affect me as a shitty open player? I'm going to assume that if I have to ask what it is then I shouldn't sign up for it
As I've mentioned previously, you should answer "yes" to that question if you're coming for TF2 in any kind of way. Basically, if you're someone who visits TFTV, you answer "yes."
SacredragonCan we have an idea of how many BYOC tickets are left so I can tell other people to hurry up before they're all gone? Or are the plenty left still.
Roughly 300, but I wouldn't wait long.
25 more early bird tickets have been added, leaving a total of 35 early bird tickets up for grabs right now.
Also, please spread the word that registration is live. I mass-messaged everyone about it, but I still want to make sure no one is in the dark about this.
dangoAre you gonna keep a looking to drive/looking for drive list again Fragile?
Looking for drive from Ottawa
I will, but I'll do that at some point this weekend.
It was also a little hard to manage last time, so please make it clear when you've found a ride or if your car is now full.