Not just directed at you, more to everyone in the community you just happen to be the one talking about it... But I really have to ask (and maybe I am just too much of a boomer) but why is this sandbagging shit such a sticking point for RGL? I don't play anymore, but are sandbaggers or "OP" ringers actually a problem? I haven't truly played since ESEA died, but in comparison ESEA had way less issue with people sandbagging than RGL does, seemingly because ESEA said "fuck it figure it out yourselves" instead of trying to regulate it. I cant help but think that trying to regulate these things really only produces negative outcomes. One, people get super frustrated when they see players that they think should be banned from X or Y class and are not, and two it adds so much extra work for the admin team to try and juggle a whole bunch of super subjective ideas on who is good at what class. Its also not like a whole bunch of players even try to sandbag anyways, most players that plan the game want to play at the level they are capable of rather than down 2 divisions.

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Ill take things I never thought a world leader would say for 600.

Yeah it might come off as a little harsh, but to be clear I am not trying to shit talk admins like Virgil or Reno I am more just trying to outline why the communications and interactions between RGL and players is so toxic. I do think that there are people who do want to do right by the community, but there is so much baggage it's an extremely difficult task, especially considering how secretive RGL is with releasing information.

As I have said multiple times over the years I never really cared what league players chose to go to, just that it was one that actually worked for them but (IMO) RGL was never going to be that because RGL was always more concerned about pushing "their" vision of what the game should be rather than letting the community decide. Maybe these new admins can change that, but much like your API issue, it's very much a top down problem that requires action on the RGL heads part.

Like of people really want to talk to me about shit feel free to DM me. I'm in the newbie mix discord, but "fixing" this shit really isn't anywhere near a priority for me at this point. If others want to try I am more than willing to give ideas and best of luck to you but I am not involved in the game or community enough anymore.

At this point? Literally the entire league probably should be restructured. I don't have a super deep knowledge of what's actually going on because I haven't played since ESEA died. But from just the threads that are posted the issues range from banning hackers and stupid demo requirements that don't achieve anything, seemingly arbitrary maps or rules changing because some invite illuminati meeting was held once, RGL overreaching its authority and "sanctioning" scrims or matches while not actually providing anything for said things, broken configs, the list goes on. But again, I am not involved at this point, im just a monkey throwing shit at a wall half for entertainment and half because it still bugs me that the NA player base fucked itself so hard and can't seem to fix that mistake.

I am not sure how long you have been around the community, but there is a lot of bad blood between higher level players of old and sigafoo. Has a lot to do with past things he has said and positions he has taken as well as decisions he has made trying to run things like NR6s as well as individuals like me or air or any number of a list of players being very toxic when voicing our displeasure.

Sure, but the issue is RGL has fucked up so many times in the past its tough for people to just give them another chance. It does blow for the admins and the people who do want to try and make things better but unfortunately there is unavoidable baggage that they have to deal with. ESEA had a person fuck up and use the client as a bitcoin miner 10 years ago now, people still meme about it. People have a long memory and if you fuck things up that stigma will stick with you and you have to deal with that. If might not be the current admins fault, but they are still attached to the org that allowed stupid shit to happen in the first place.

Again, RGL has a history of saying one thing (or nothing at all tbh) and then just going and fucking something else up not 2 weeks later repeatedly. Even if the new and current admins are literal angels, there is so much bad blood built up it cant just be forgotten overnight.

RGL isn't forced to do anything. Clearly no one in NA is willing to change leagues and are OK enough with the current situation to stick with RGL, so if RGL wants a better public image then they just need to do things that will facilitate that. They are more than free to act warmly to the community by engaging with posts or news articles more. They can actively look to provide more and better content, none of this requires people other than them. If they want to do it they easily can. But again, lots of bad blood and history between the "tftv" crowd and the higherups at RGL. Like hell its extremely well know that sigafoo thinks less of people who post on tftv and engage with this section of the community. Started with us being "6s elitists" when he was a HL engy main, and only got worse when he decided to fuck with shit like the surprise NR6s tournament. Sigafoo has always been an outsider to the 6s community and that is reflected by the way RGL deals with 6s as a whole.

Nah, he doesn't get that out. He is literally the sole owner of the org and company. He can can change anything he wants within the league and the management structure at the drop of a hat. He's the one person that does not get the cop out of "he's just the messenger" because he has sole power to pull the stick out of the organizations ass. It's also no mystery that RGL and sigafoo ban, mute and ignore dissenting opinions, as it has been that way since day 1, that's literally part of the core issue. Obviously I am one of the most biased people in this whole thing and have my own stick up my ass about it all so take it for what you will, but continuing to give him and or the league these outs is exactly why nothing is actually changing.

Honestly pretty awful. 3/10

Ceb is playing, was announced earlier today.

T1. Also hot take, we will see 3 NA teams in top 8.

Personally I don't think any post should be approved before it goes through THEBILLDOZER™ shitposting algorithm to make sure it is a post of the highest quality.

Nier Replicant v1.22 and Nier Automata are both very good. Convoluted as all fuck, but good. Also Spec Ops: The Line. That game is an absolute experience.

Well no, if RGL gets to be incompetent then there is no reason to respect what they have to say. Its not saying that people have no responsibility, its asking why the fuck would anyone consider anything RGL says as meaningful? Sure in this specific instance they probably should have un-fucked their demos, but (for the millionth time it seems) the discussion is less about the specific instance, and more about the staggering incompetence and inconsistency of RGL. This player is just the catalyst for (another) discussion to happen. Also, if you don't actually know fuck all about RGL why are you playing the rules lawyer for something that literally does not effect you?

Weren't RGL servers and configs broken and wrong for like the first 2 seasons??

People just need to move to the superior coast and all the problems are solved.

#bringbackgpit