Working on breaking down the twitch vod and get it on YT. We'll make that adjustment to the hud as well.

strong wordage by me but I still think it fucked with em :P

I hope it's eXcruciating.

Broder/Epsilon could still have dominated em, but the Quick Fix in NA was definitely a fiasco. ESEA had previously banned the battalion's backup mid-season because it was "broken", but they allowed the QF's drastic changes to impact the season.

*shrug* It's all hypothetical, but HRG having to utilize the QF for months before i49 definitely screwed with their mentality imo.

It's my opinion that HRG having to play ESEA LAN with QuickFix, not the one they won to get crowdfunded but the one right before i49, really threw their game off. They had to practice for a month with Quickfix, then they had 4-5 days in between that and i49.

It's not an eXcuse as much as it is as an attempt to eXplain why they didn't play as strong as they could have. WP by Europe I'm not trying to take anything away from their victory, but as a NA community member it was sad to see HRG have to switch between two very different metas in the course of a week. The change was even more significant than going from ESEA whitelist -> Vanilla at i46.

A pro-esea'er should really get a thread going on /r/TF2 or /r/TrueTF2... While TF.tv is a great hub for us, there are a lot of TF2ers who don't come here.

http://www.reddit.com/r/truetf2/comments/1yvgk7/the_death_of_tf2/ That's the only one I found but I'm sure someone could make a better case.

GL rallying teams together.

VTv has been a bit inactive, but i52 is their cornerstone and I'm sure Byte is gonna be organizing coverage again with Arx/Beta casting it. They have a long lasting relationship with Multiplay and came through huge with their coverage last year.

They'd have to have a pretty compelling reason to switch to TF.tv and I can't think of anything that actually would convince them to do so. Yes TF.tv is doing a lot for the scene and cbear and Sal are great, but you're talking about them working with someone across the Atlantic Ocean vs working with someone in their own back yard who has been doing their coverage for years.

I'm not entirely sure what our plans are tbh. I've done some pre-writing on the documentary and the scope of covering the game as a whole is actually much grander than just going to i52... Also, while we have Patreon money about to come (1st month just sitting in balance, 2nd month otw), we've spent a large chunk of eXtv's bank on gear in recent months as well as funding my trip to FITES.

A plane ticket for just me was looking at around $1500, we'd also have to fund Luc and Airon to be in attendance, as well as housing for the event (we'd show up early and leave late). My work and my wife okay'd the trip, but I'm not sure if that's really the best way to spend our money, or if we'd actually be able to accomplish our goals in that time.

Considering that America's team in i49 was screwed by the Quick Fix Fiasco, it'd be awesome if we could take another shot.

http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/16281-esea-s16-registration-extended

TF2 isn't dead what so ever, even if ^ wasn't the case.

so what was the point of that stream?

Was such a great time. I apologize that I forgot to call out defy for being a punk and not coming. I saved up that Oregon beer to share with you, but oh well it was delicious anyways.

Lets do this again neXt year. Dashner is gonna post a wrap up thread soon where we can talk bout what can go better. We want to support gxl lan as well... Lets make these two lans the east coast must attend events for the tf2 community.

Thanks to everyone who attended.

It was a good debate and we shook hands like gentlemen at the end of it. Clock and marmaduke both brought up really good points about how items work in tf2 and made me think about things from a different angle.

We didn't talk esea too much, though it did come up briefly in the parking lot of carrabas.

A lot of people have been pretty passionately arguing on behalf of esea, but passion doesn't change people's minds. Esea could have gone a long way repairing their relationship in the community with an apologetic post from lpkane.

The other major point esea hasn't addressed, that has actually loomed over their heads the whole time, is what is the benefit of premium? There hasn't been any value to paying for it for members of the tf2 community since the beginning. It makes the financial calculation pretty easy, paying just a league fee is cheaper than paying a league fee and a premium fee which is worthless and needs to be cancelled in between seasons.

My flight out of nyc is boarding soon. I know tf.tv isn't sitting on the edge of their seats to hear my opinion, but I'll post a vlog about this I'm a few days.

Hey joe, I'll be putting together the STV demos for UB-Semis onwards. Would love to see a frag vid of the LAN. If you wanna put it up on the commft channel we should talk music.

Basically, the only thing standing in the way of getting this sort of stuff into TF2 is a good idea and an item creator that can follow through on it.

I know that Valve is interested in doing this in TF2. It's definitely different then Dota in the sense that there aren't any couriers, wards, or huds, that can be produced and have a very small cosmetic impact on the game, but that's just a design issue.

Or you know... you could use it yourself? ;)

I'm on my way right now, but just got an indefinite delay at the gate due to plane issues O_o

Keep your fingers crossed for Megawac getting across the border.

edit: Awesome, A/C is broken on the plane, part has to be flown in to repair it, jeeez. "Delta flights are all full today" On hold on their trouble phone line... Hopefully I get to Philly at a decent time so Kaptan_Kul doesn't have to wait too long for me, and hopefully shrugger's other ride comes through.