u can do it because theres no perfect way to play but its not fun so fuck it

i think they would have all class on regardless of what people felt just to include as much people as possible

and people didnt really care enough to complain because they play it for like 10mins and then go scrim. most people in TF2 don't conciously practice

lots of twitch streamers/youtubers started casting the spy v spy battles and shit instead because they thought it was funny that someone would waste their time doing shit like that

i think they played on AS because it was just always the most full one, not because they enjoyed that server particulary. it wasnt a concious decision its just u launch tf2, that one has the players on and u join it

? But like the next 3 comments are about how bad the idea of having other classes than just Scout and Soldier are. Nobody wants to have their map hogged up by Snipers or god knows what else. I thought you were beign sarcastic.

Im a big fan of Steph but her MGE server represents everything that I dont wanna play on.

Also, I know this is just a me thing but I like elo, especially on the American servers where everyone is using some dumb longass alias/japanese name and theres no !div.

Its demoralizing and kind of kills the urge to practice when you are vs a noob, and then that noob won't leave the arena even tho they're getting 20-0'd because they wanna prove something and then it turns into a big waste of time when u could be playing a real guy.

I understand the problems with ELO tho, which mostly ammounts to angry ass 1800s trying their absolute hardest to get ELO off of 2k+ people, so i think the best idea is to have a low ELO cap. that way u can see differentiate between who is a real player and who isn't and the people who are at the top have nothing to gain by playing tryhard and evnetually the 1800s 'wont have a reason' either (it wont make a difference)

i agree with trip kinda its not really to do with mouse control a lot of players have good mouse control and its not muscle memory its more ur brains/eyes ability to read movements and react which is also why u can not open the game for 3 years and still out aim ppl who play 24/7

however thats probably not the case for those ppl who aim and u cant even see wats on the screen cause its all wobbly

Stfu bro every time a trans person makes a twitch chat message or forum post u guys bring this shit up when its irrelevant

Steph why have you included sniper? It should be only Scout and Soldier.

u would be better off playimg quake not tht its hard its just u use a variety of different weapons so it helps diversify ur aim style

ur not gonna be like a god even if u hit like 50% lg because a lot of tf2 players can do that but its just the fact that ur using all these weapons at the same time thats hekpful

even if they started that shit it would definetly take them like 6-8 years

is KFC the same eveywhere? any americans that come to insomnia can say if theres a difference?

the main goal of this was to let peoplw kno that competitve TF2 exists. weve moves passed that and now people who dont even play TF2 are aware that comp tf2 exists, theyre just completely uninterested or think its boring/ pubbers pretending they dont like the idea of ‘tryharding’ when really theyre daunted by the fact that they arent as good as banny

go talk to the top scoring pubber with the unusual hat and ask him why he doesnt play

u cant just fix the system 4 years later and expect them to care, unless they gain hats or some shit for playing comp but i dont think valve would ever go that far

like they know about tf2lobby now and a lot of pubbers have a fair amount of games on that but are still uninterested and tf2lobby is offering the same if not better experience of what we want matchmaking to do

this update btw took valve like 2 years. they spent 2 years making some shit that just made the situation worse

so its smarter to focus on an update that made the game as a whole more interesting, not even just 6s but an update that would have a knock on effect on 6s. i think it would be more important if we communicated with valve with community approved weapon ideas (like the LG)

the whole game needs fixing, not just 6s. the best updates would effect the whole game at the same time, with gunboats as the obvious example of wat im trying to tell ya...

its also a better option for valve because we can take it into our own hands and even make the models for it. we say this is what we want it to look like, heres the stats and heres why it needs to be in the game which is much clearer and reduces valve fucking it

its not even like they failed the semester either. off the top of my head there was like 90k (or 40 cant remember) players playing and out of that huge number not even 12 are playing and they spent 2 years on this project its wayy beyond a flop its a complete embarrassment to the game and to valve themselves

Thank u all the people that although don’t even play anymore made the effort to participate still

Man... As soon as he says it... ‘TF2’... On the TV... Now that would be our saviour >_>

i dont think theyre allowed to talk about tf2 under contract

i remember some vids coming out where they had to say 'other esport'

Ur like 3 years too late

They should be working on shit that would actually have an impact. That update did the most harm to the game than any