I can't believe I'm actually going to post in a Donald Trump thread much less one about politics...but...
fade-remedyactually the lack of capital makes it tougher for immigrants to rise to a "6 firgure salary", thats just kinda basic economics. example, an american father leaves his son the family house, now the son does not have to worry about paying rent or w/e while he goes to school.if a family is fresh off the boat they dont have that sort of foundation to work off of
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ok so i'm chinese, second generation immigrant, my parents were first gen and came straight from china literally without anything other than an education and some basic grasp of english
my parents didn't have anything at all to work off of, but they were able to find six-digit salaries within like 5 years in IT. even if you assume that they are extreme outliers and that usual immigrants need time to stabilize, what about the african american community? without trying to address the stereotype there is still a huge majority of african americans not even trying to educate themselves or improve their own situation through finding a stable career. they have a home, they have affirmative action, what is stopping them?
but seriously get we get the fuck rid of affirmative action and its racist bullshit already it's in good intention but it's so retarded
The problems that the African-American community face are VERY different from that of the Asian-American community, so I personally would say the questions you're asking are actually red herrings (and also make the incorrect implication of "having a home" being a nonissue). I would say your parents were on the luckier side of living in America; I don't have the exact numbers, but there is a non-insignificant population of Asians (don't forget about Southeast Asians as well) that definitely don't have the same success your parents have had. I agree a lot that affirmative action in reality has been more problematic than helpful.
dollarlayerGood on them. Many Chinese are the hardest working people out there. They not only work hard, but are generally quite wise with how they spend their money. If you look into salary statistics, Chinese are at the top, above Caucasians. The liberals want to just keep giving hand outs to people in poverty, which only enables them to stay in poverty and live off the government. Hard work is paramount to success and achieving the American dream.
There's a problem with how you're describing said salary statistic. I would actually say that statement is generally false, or at the very least, fallaciously false. This short article explains it well. I'm saying this as someone who has been doing just fine (albeit, by technicality, I am born and raised an American citizen) as a minority ethnicity. And, just as a matter of opinion, I believe that helping those in poverty is more worth it than is not. I don't want to discuss it further, but I'll liken it to "innocent until proven guilty".
ForefatherI dont know why people are surprised that asians are able to do well in western countries
They have agency, decent social trust, low time preference, high iqs and dont have a tendency to commit crimes
This is also a fallacy, to a decent extent. Asians and Asian-Americans (the difference matters) may, on average, be doing economically well in America (but even so, there is both quantitative and anecdotal evidence that they are NOT on par with Caucasians), but socially, and culturally, this is incredibly untrue. I won't go too deeply into it here, but let's just say, racism towards Asian ethnicities is well and alive here in America. Plenty of studies show it, and I've been hit by it more times than I can give a fuck about.
Good day!