ontopic: pl_hightower_event, it's gonna be so much fun playing spooky tdm from tomorrow on

sigh

I dunno about you but i don't find crappily balanced maps and awful looking cosmetics fun, let alone terribly designed gamemodes, none of which will ever be played again because it's all just bad.

And all of it is wasting pretty damn valuable developer time by this point. But whatever, you enjoy your go karts

cheers

hi is there any point me trying to play the na pickup games with 250 ping and shit tracking skills and about 5 hours in quake live or would i just waste everyone's time

meh

does anyone here actually care about the crappy halloween maps and cosmetics and stuff? I feel like it just detracts from the game by this point.

i was a cart heavy for my first 5 hours, then a spy main for the next 25 and that still makes up the majority of my time played on spy

got into it after seeing star wreck nerds as sniper at the charity mixup, I wanted to be that good xD

Let's be real Valve isn't basing their decision on whether to support competitive TF2 on whether teams say gg at the end of games, this is a non-issue.

Also, can one of the handful of special snowflakes in this forum who enjoy sharing the fact they have easy access to Valve employees please get one of them to at least read the last page or so of this thread, starting from Gentleman Jon's post in particular. It's pretty important that the TF team needs to understand this.

it's 7am our time, not 7pm. It's meant to be euro and na friendly.

http://venturebeat.com/2014/01/20/10-online-pc-games-that-made-more-than-100m-in-microtransaction-sales-last-year/

pubs

http://ozfortress.com/showpost.php?p=836620&postcount=70

just pointing out that north america's problems do not necessarily reflect those of every region

all i've got out of this thread is that slin thinks sigafoo has the best understanding of the future of competitive tf2

forgive me if i don't rate anything else you're saying then, slin

some sort of underclocking issue? check your gpu usage in afterburner maybe

Yes. Some classes are broken when stacked. Every class is broken when stacked too much. Wow, that was hard.

Yes.

It sucked.

There is no 'highest level of matchmaking' and there's no point using it to prove anything currently because the ranks don't affect who you're matched with or against, so they're essentially meaningless, and any of us can roll pubbers using any stupid strategy you can think of. That doesn't make it viable, it just proves how useless matchmaking currently is.

IF they actually implement a functioning elo system and IF the matchmaker doesn't do stupid shit like prioritise matching group sizes over actual elo/rank/skill level (because the size of the group you're queued in won't make a fucking difference if people are actually matched with and against the correct ranks) then maybe you'll be able to start talking about what strategies actually work in matchmaking. But if you allow everything then it becomes rock paper scissors. If you want to play a rock paper scissors style slow-paced fps, overwatch is over there.

Competitive players have waited long enough. Hell, it hasn't even been three years since I first started playing tf2 and I'm getting to the point where it just isn't worth it for me to spend time getting good at a game where the higher level players all leave every year and there are no actual tournaments to speak of. I dislike the casual aspects of overwatch but at least there's a chance that I could get some actual competition where people don't spout shit like 'oh we don't scrim much/are offclassing/don't care about the game' whenever they lose if I switch over.

The competitive scene is dying because of overwatch, and the casual scene is dying because valve is trying to make the game competitive. By the time they finish testing all their stupid ideas regarding matchmaking and either come up with our format or a shittier one where the casuals can play perma spy, they'll have no players anyway.

You're right in that the only chance we have is in TF3 but that's going to take even longer than a fixed matchmaking system and might never happen (also like a fixed matchmaking system) so it's getting to the point where it doesn't really make sense for anyone to keep wasting their time on this game anymore.

I'm pretty sure clockwork cares a lot more about this game than most people and even he's gone to play overwatch because it just doesn't make sense not to, even if it is a much worse game in many respects.