You know just because Valve made a video explaining why they think what they are doing is good doesn't mean it's good? Hitler did the same thing and as it turns out he was wrong.

This is ridiculous and dumb. Are people satisfied with Blizzard's posts? Yes. Are people satisfied with Valve's posts? No.
Thesis refuted.

Yadda yadda still saying it can't be done when everyone else does it successfully. It's not hard to outsource PR, there is hardly a major company who doesn't do it and it's ridiculously easy in this specific case. Being a PR manager for a private security company is difficult. Being a PR manager for Comcast is difficult. Being hired to write informative but sufficiently ambiguous blog posts about a grand total of 3 well-known video games is fucking easy.

And lastly I'll quote my post from earlier.

Even in the most catastrophic of outcomes which could only be brought on by a literal braindead chicken disguised as a PR manager, in which a ton of features are promised for an upcoming update that cannot possibly be implemented, there are NO repercussions for Valve to be afraid of. Everyone will still buy their cosmetics. Everyone will still be hyped about all updates. No two fucks have to be given. And THIS WON'T HAPPEN because you would have to be actually retarded to fuck up something as simple as writing a blog post about a state of development.

You're shitposting at this point.

Your arguments stink.

-They shouldn't use b4nny as their only PR channel
-The fact that they want to use MM to rebalance weapons doesn't come from b4nny but has been known since Salamancer's Valve visit (and please go back and compare his thread about it with this one) 3 years ago
-The fact that if the e-sport takes off there will be tournaments is common sense
-Thus the community has not "been told" anything whatsoever
-He was never implying Valve are unsuccessful, he was implying that competitive tf2 could be significantly more successful with non-garbage communication between the developers and the community

I recommend changing servers

I was referring to your posts in this thread u dummy. I haven't read all your posts lol. Yeah mine are just as dumb, except the first one where I explained how your first one didn't make sense.

Ur posts are pointless. Have some minusfrags

Oi that was some quality goalkeeping.

This was nice to watch. Just like a Portugal game except with a decisive result.

Of course it doesn't make it enticing for somebody like you to watch a game you don't care about lol

I don't know where you're getting this idea from lmao.

Valve isn't locked into doing anything, and no matter what they say or do, they won't ever "get locked" into doing or saying anything they don't want to. I have no idea what even makes you think that.
Valve make 2 million dollars a day from selling pixel items to dota, cs and pub tf2 players and there is NOTHING you or I or anyone else can do about that. They can give away ANY amount of information they please at ANY time and they can change this behavior ANY time at their discretion without ANY problems whatsoever. If they give monthly development updates and then stop, people will be irritated and nothing will change. If they give updates only when something major is underway and sometimes don't deliver, people will be hyped and then disappointed and nothing will change.
This is exactly what happened with end of the line and NOTHING HAPPENED. The gazillions of youtube videos complaining about duck update didn't change a thing about the ludicrous amounts of shekels that valve made with said ducks.
They have nothing to lose with transparency and communication. And in a time where they are trying to promote a competitive mode in an e-sports scene where it has become commonplace for developers to be involved closely with their communities, they only have to gain.

As a pub player, I wouldn't want to get involved in a competitive beta that the devs themselves don't seem to acknowledge, where I have to find out about tf.tv to get any info about what matchmaking is all about, and where said info consists of "I ate sandwiches with Valve and I'm not telling you anything about it".

How would releasing public statements about the development process on the tf2 website whenever there is actually new interesting information available force them into a different way of developing tf2? It wouldn't at all.

The 2 things have nothing to do with each other and there is no reason to "pay a price" of bad community management in exchange for no aggressive advertisement.

Why 24/7 hightower?

I'm not sure why k0ngzy is getting so much hate. He might be wording his posts like an ass but he really has a point, and it's not even about Valve's lack of communication. What is this thread really for? It reads
"I visited Valve. I wouldn't tell you anything if I knew anything because I don't want to betray Valve's trust by sharing the privileged secrets bestowed unto me, but there's actually no reason to be mad about that lol because I know literally nothing. I don't know anything about any update or what they are working on or anything about the way they're doing anything in general.
But they're doing things and solving problems in very cool ways, be hyped"

What does this even mean? If If the problems you saw them trying to solve in a cool way were secret privileged information that you're not allowed to share, that pretty much means they're part of an upcoming update. But you haven't seen or heard anything about any update. So why not just share what they were actually doing, or what their "impressive way of solving problems" actually looks like.
Saying that you're not allowed to share your observations of their workflow is dumb, they would've never invited you.
As it stands, the statement "they know what they're doing and they're doing things in impressive ways" is completely vacuous.

Obviously I don't think this is about Geel's corporate interest in generating hype (lol) but that doesn't change the fact that this should be a tweet and not a thread on a platform for sharing and discussing actual tf2 information.

Can u persuade b4nny to follow your lead so we can have more possessed streams?

Lol of course you can, Valve can promise whatever they like. They have repeatedly promised things to be released within days that became years and it hasn't ruined them so far.
Valve make 2 million dollars a day and there is absolutely nothing any of us could do to change that even if they gave us detailed logs of literally everything the tf2 department is doing.