i don't know when they changed it, but there was a noticeable drop in viewers that was sudden rather than gradual. it doesn't make sense why they'd do that if they wanted tf2's audience on twitch to get it but

i'm 99% sure it's because people bitched about it on reddit.

nobody ever clicks this tiny-ass button of a tv on the main menu or any of those small buttons up there except when they get a new item. the boost of viewers only happened when that automatically opened and people actually saw the streams.

literally all they have to do is look at tf.tv's upcoming events once a week

1.2k-1.5k for a lot, that's definitely an improvement from last season, but the numbers would have been much higher with some recognition from valve

cmon valve...

lame

alison quinn is superior

yeah it's a decent sign but keep in mind csgo is not at a point like tf2's where the developers MUST NOT fuck the updates up to give it any chance of growth

but probably not widely used on a competitive video gaming forum lol

holy shit no joke thats actually what i use

this is even more true since 99% of the drops you get are not even worth a cent. in csgo you get random drops too, but you can get some really good stuff. dropping a loot box with a random skin (skins you only get in drops, a la csgo) is much better for tf2 because a) it gives you reward for the rank to work for and b) unboxing something always makes it more rewarding and c) gives a chance for drops that you actually care about or enjoy looking at, not your eighteenth baby faces blaster

they could really put anything in "loot boxes" that arent unlocks

priorities?

ill copy-paste this from the other thread. these are very important because they have to do with the core of the competitive part of tf2 valve is trying to introduce. bug fixes are great, but theyre not going to mean anything when nobody wants to play the game.

-the system is basically whoever plays more gets a higher rank, or whoever six-stacks. When everyone starts at rank 1, if you're a very middle of the road player, you're going to lose/win half of your games, depending on the skill of the player who is ranked 1 instead of higher because of a lack of placement matches, and are going to stay there yourself.

-there's a memory leak (i think? some error to do with dx9 shaders repeating over and over) in matchmaking which basically makes it unplayable for some people after a game's worth of play, or if it's a long game, you're fucked with 30-40 FPS by the end of it

-viewmodel fov: please cap it at at least 70, minmode viewmodels look alright with 70, but at 54 even min viewmodels look like you're holding it right in front of your face.

-you shouldnt have to be booted to the main menu after every casual game. casual is great, don't get me wrong, but it could be so easily improved by giving the option to keep playing. Or just do the CS:GO system of vote for the next map, which, to be honest, would be great.

-not related to the core aspects of the game, but since this game just got it's competitive update, i'd love for valve to actually point players toward actual competitive in some way shape or form-- in game. One way is to fix the stream UI to always be open-- that led a lot of players in, and boosted view counts. Now that's toggled off and as far as i can tell nobody clicks the button to turn it on, and since it was toggled off, viewer counts have dropped. If the problem is showing the community trashy streams, then maybe make a box that appears when there are competitive game(s) going on. That notification that the ESEA grand finals were happening was great, and I'd like to see more of those.

ronin's not playing next season though....

Good job valve you actually followed up!

now there are still some problems, however:

-the system is basically whoever plays more gets a higher rank, or whoever six-stacks. When everyone starts at rank 1, if you're a very middle of the road player, you're going to lose/win half of your games, depending on the skill of the player who is ranked 1 instead of higher because of a lack of placement matches, and are going to stay there yourself.

-there's a memory leak (i think? some error to do with dx9 shaders repeating over and over) in matchmaking which basically makes it unplayable for some people after a game's worth of play, or if it's a long game, you're fucked with 30-40 FPS by the end of it

-viewmodel fov: please cap it at at least 70, minmode viewmodels look alright with 70, but at 54 even min viewmodels look like you're holding it right in front of your face.

-you shouldnt have to be booted to the main menu after every casual game. casual is great, don't get me wrong, but it could be so easily improved by giving the option to keep playing. Or just do the CS:GO system of vote for the next map, which, to be honest, would be great.

-not related to the core aspects of the game, but since this game just got it's competitive update, i'd love for valve to actually point players toward actual competitive in some way shape or form-- in game. One way is to fix the stream UI to always be open-- that led a lot of players in, and boosted view counts. Now that's toggled off and as far as i can tell nobody clicks the button to turn it on, and since it was toggled off, viewer counts have dropped. If the problem is showing the community trashy streams, then maybe make a box that appears when there are competitive game(s) going on. That notification that the ESEA grand finals were happening was great, and I'd like to see more of those.

yeah i was going for the absolute bottom of the barrel there

if it wasnt a good hud it wouldnt be sittin here discussin it with you would it