d3nymasterfulHow do you go 8 months in a relationship with someone without ever having sex? Are they both in Middle School?
did you ever stop to think that maybe s(he) wanted to avoid sex for this very reason
No duh, but what about the other guy? What fucking guy goes 8 months with a girl without saying "Give me sex or I'm gone". Don't fucking patronize me because you don't understand how normal relationships work.
[quote=d3ny][quote=masterful]How do you go 8 months in a relationship with someone without ever having sex? Are they both in Middle School?[/quote]did you ever stop to think that maybe s(he) wanted to avoid sex for this very reason[/quote]
No duh, but what about the other guy? What fucking guy goes 8 months with a girl without saying "Give me sex or I'm gone". Don't fucking patronize me because you don't understand how normal relationships work.
Founding a relationship with lies is never going to work. Unless he is pretending to not now, this sounds like it's going to blow up. Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1X5R0sbUOc
Founding a relationship with lies is never going to work. Unless he is pretending to not now, this sounds like it's going to blow up. Also:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1X5R0sbUOc [/youtube]
First off I never thought I would see the day when this type of topic would be in a gaming forum...lol. However, honesty is the foundation of any solid and healthy relationship. This is doomed either way...no matter what issue is at hand...honesty is 110% essential! For me there is no grey area here...she (he) should have been upfront in the very first week! Tisk tisk
First off I never thought I would see the day when this type of topic would be in a gaming forum...lol. However, honesty is the foundation of any solid and healthy relationship. This is doomed either way...no matter what issue is at hand...honesty is 110% essential! For me there is no grey area here...she (he) should have been upfront in the very first week! Tisk tisk
Personally? It would not go over very well. If I was daft enough not to realize that my girlfriend of 8 months has a penis and I found out because we tried to have sex for the first time then I'd feel both upset and extremely stupid.
I have no idea what it's like to be in her shoes but she should probably be upfront about it and tell him instead of let him find out like that. It's very likely that the situation would be extremely awkward.
Best of luck to your friend. She seems happy with this guy so I hope it turns out well. I hate hearing about good relationships crumble for dumb reasons.
Personally? It would not go over very well. If I was daft enough not to realize that my girlfriend of 8 months has a penis and I found out because we tried to have sex for the first time then I'd feel both upset and extremely stupid.
I have no idea what it's like to be in her shoes but she should probably be upfront about it and tell him instead of let him find out like that. It's very likely that the situation would be extremely awkward.
Best of luck to your friend. She seems happy with this guy so I hope it turns out well. I hate hearing about good relationships crumble for dumb reasons.
If anyone I knew legitimately well kept something that huge from me for 8 months I would be rightfully pissed off, and I'm a very chill guy.
Honestly if you care enough about someone to date them for 8 months you should have LONG since had the respect for them to be honest. If you misrepresent yourself, and such a large part of who you are you're already sabotaging trust, and outright retarded if you think it will end well.
They're not legitimately happy, because their relationship is not based on reality. Hope it manages to turn out well for both of them, but it's a terrible situation.
If anyone I knew legitimately well kept something that huge from me for 8 months I would be rightfully pissed off, and I'm a very chill guy.
Honestly if you care enough about someone to date them for 8 months you should have LONG since had the respect for them to be honest. If you misrepresent yourself, and such a large part of who you are you're already sabotaging trust, and outright retarded if you think it will end well.
They're not legitimately happy, because their relationship is not based on reality. Hope it manages to turn out well for both of them, but it's a terrible situation.
people also have to realise that it's not as simple as "should have told him up front", we do live in a society where trans people risk violence, abuse and generally being treated like shit for outing themselves in the wrong company
people also have to realise that it's not as simple as "should have told him up front", we do live in a society where trans people risk violence, abuse and generally being treated like shit for outing themselves in the wrong company
kiripeople also have to realise that it's not as simple as "should have told him up front", we do live in a society where trans people risk violence, abuse and generally being treated like shit for outing themselves in the wrong company
What you just said is about as off base as you can get.
[quote=kiri]people also have to realise that it's not as simple as "should have told him up front", we do live in a society where trans people risk violence, abuse and generally being treated like shit for outing themselves in the wrong company[/quote]
What you just said is about as off base as you can get.
this isn't the best place to ask for advice, but if i was that guy and i found out my girlfriend was a tranny, even if i loved her i could never think of her the same. So yeah des be bad situation
this isn't the best place to ask for advice, but if i was that guy and i found out my girlfriend was a tranny, even if i loved her i could never think of her the same. So yeah des be bad situation
masterfulkiripeople also have to realise that it's not as simple as "should have told him up front", we do live in a society where trans people risk violence, abuse and generally being treated like shit for outing themselves in the wrong company
What you just said is about as off base as you can get.
no
[quote=masterful][quote=kiri]people also have to realise that it's not as simple as "should have told him up front", we do live in a society where trans people risk violence, abuse and generally being treated like shit for outing themselves in the wrong company[/quote]
What you just said is about as off base as you can get.[/quote]
no
Can we not have these kind of threads here? keep this shit to natf2 or better yet somewhere that it is actually relevant to the purpose of the forum
Can we not have these kind of threads here? keep this shit to natf2 or better yet somewhere that it is actually relevant to the purpose of the forum
mustardoverlordif he breaks it off she can hit me up at mustardoverlord@gmail.com and id wreck dat azz
relationally or literally?
[quote=mustardoverlord][i]if he breaks it off[/i] she can hit me up at mustardoverlord@gmail.com and id wreck dat azz[/quote]
relationally or literally?
masterfulkiripeople also have to realise that it's not as simple as "should have told him up front", we do live in a society where trans people risk violence, abuse and generally being treated like shit for outing themselves in the wrong company
What you just said is about as off base as you can get.
that's a completely true statement, you're an idiot if you think queer/trans people aren't in danger from people who disagree with how they identify themselves
[quote=masterful][quote=kiri]people also have to realise that it's not as simple as "should have told him up front", we do live in a society where trans people risk violence, abuse and generally being treated like shit for outing themselves in the wrong company[/quote]
What you just said is about as off base as you can get.[/quote]that's a completely true statement, you're an idiot if you think queer/trans people aren't in danger from people who disagree with how they identify themselves
d3nythat's a completely true statement, you're an idiot if you think queer/trans people aren't in danger from people who disagree with how they identify themselves
Correct, what you just said was a true statement, but that's not the same as kiri's argument.
[quote=d3ny]that's a completely true statement, you're an idiot if you think queer/trans people aren't in danger from people who disagree with how they identify themselves[/quote]
Correct, what you just said was a true statement, but that's not the same as kiri's argument.
thinkmustardoverlordif he breaks it off she can hit me up at mustardoverlord@gmail.com and id wreck dat azz
relationally or literally?
gurl, you wrong
[quote=think][quote=mustardoverlord][i]if he breaks it off[/i] she can hit me up at mustardoverlord@gmail.com and id wreck dat azz[/quote]
relationally or literally?[/quote]
gurl, you wrong
masterfuld3nythat's a completely true statement, you're an idiot if you think queer/trans people aren't in danger from people who disagree with how they identify themselves
Correct, what you just said was a true statement, but that's not the same as kiri's argument.
it's the same thing. someone could be very polite and loving and caring but once they find out you're lgbtq, they can turn on you in a second. haven't you ever heard of parents who kick their kids out just for being gay?
the hostility could theoretically be there, and the idea that he had been dating a trans person for 8 months without knowing could potentially be extremely damaging to his psyche and could cause him to lash out, especially if he repeatedly claims to be 100% straight.
that being said i don't know either party personally- this is simply speculation, but i agree with kiri 100%.
[quote=masterful][quote=d3ny]that's a completely true statement, you're an idiot if you think queer/trans people aren't in danger from people who disagree with how they identify themselves[/quote]
Correct, what you just said was a true statement, but that's not the same as kiri's argument.[/quote]it's the same thing. someone could be very polite and loving and caring but once they find out you're lgbtq, they can turn on you in a second. haven't you ever heard of parents who kick their kids out just for being gay?
the hostility could theoretically be there, and the idea that he had been dating a trans person for 8 months without knowing could potentially be extremely damaging to his psyche and could cause him to lash out, especially if he repeatedly claims to be 100% straight.
that being said i don't know either party personally- this is simply speculation, but i agree with kiri 100%.
Well these kinds of situations are complicated but most likely he will be revolted at first then fall in love with her. However your friend ultimately will find out that her current bf was involved in the murder of her ex boyfriend and try to kill him but won't be able to bring herself to do it. She'll end up murdering someone else but he'll take the fall for her and end up in prison.
Overall just not a great idea.
Well these kinds of situations are complicated but most likely he will be revolted at first then fall in love with her. However your friend ultimately will find out that her current bf was involved in the murder of her ex boyfriend and try to kill him but won't be able to bring herself to do it. She'll end up murdering someone else but he'll take the fall for her and end up in prison.
Overall just not a great idea.
kiripeople also have to realise that it's not as simple as "should have told him up front", we do live in a society where trans people risk violence, abuse and generally being treated like shit for outing themselves in the wrong company
That's true, and there's no need to go around telling everyone the first time you meet them "hi I'm transsexual," but it's something very relevant in a romantic/sexual relationship that needs to be addressed relatively early on. Maybe not on the first date, but probably in the first few weeks.
I think in this situation the guy has every reason to feel upset/deceived, and even without the problem of him being 100% straight I think the trust issue would be enough to seriously consider ending the relationship. How do you keep something like that from someone for 8 months? It's not something like "oh it never crossed my mind to tell you"--of course she thought about it and chose to deceive him. Even if she doesn't think it should be a problem, anyone who isn't completely out of touch with society has to know that it's a big deal to most people.
[quote=kiri]people also have to realise that it's not as simple as "should have told him up front", we do live in a society where trans people risk violence, abuse and generally being treated like shit for outing themselves in the wrong company[/quote]
That's true, and there's no need to go around telling everyone the first time you meet them "hi I'm transsexual," but it's something very relevant in a romantic/sexual relationship that needs to be addressed relatively early on. Maybe not on the first date, but probably in the first few weeks.
I think in this situation the guy has every reason to feel upset/deceived, and even without the problem of him being 100% straight I think the trust issue would be enough to seriously consider ending the relationship. How do you keep something like that from someone for 8 months? It's not something like "oh it never crossed my mind to tell you"--of course she thought about it and chose to deceive him. Even if she doesn't think it should be a problem, anyone who isn't completely out of touch with society has to know that it's a big deal to most people.
I can't believe that they are truly happy with each others relationship, while it may seem like they're happy in public, they are probably being torn up in the inside (no pun)
Consider it from his perspective, it has been 8 months without any real sexual relationship. He has to feel that there is some reason for this like, here to being attracted to him, maybe an STD, whatever the mind can come up with. After this long of a time, when she comes out with the news, he is likely to be even more upset no matter what. Beyond the lack of trust that she is showing him, all the reason that HE thinks she isn't having sex, it's likely this is something that he never thought of.
From her perspective, she knows she is not telling him the truth and is hiding something huge for a long period of time. She knows that this is wrong to do, yet she is doing it otherwise. She likely feels bad about the lack of sex, but can do nothing about it (in her mind) so it makes her feel worse everyday.
Now, with all these doubts and insecurities in both persons mind, how exactly does that lead to a good and happy relationship?
I can't believe that they are truly happy with each others relationship, while it may seem like they're happy in public, they are probably being torn up in the inside (no pun)
Consider it from his perspective, it has been 8 months without any real sexual relationship. He has to feel that there is some reason for this like, here to being attracted to him, maybe an STD, whatever the mind can come up with. After this long of a time, when she comes out with the news, he is likely to be even more upset no matter what. Beyond the lack of trust that she is showing him, all the reason that HE thinks she isn't having sex, it's likely this is something that he never thought of.
From her perspective, she knows she is not telling him the truth and is hiding something huge for a long period of time. She knows that this is wrong to do, yet she is doing it otherwise. She likely feels bad about the lack of sex, but can do nothing about it (in her mind) so it makes her feel worse everyday.
Now, with all these doubts and insecurities in both persons mind, how exactly does that lead to a good and happy relationship?
FzeroI can't believe that they are truly happy with each others relationship, while it may seem like they're happy in public, they are probably being torn up in the inside (no pun)
Consider it from his perspective, it has been 8 months without any real sexual relationship. He has to feel that there is some reason for this like, here to being attracted to him, maybe an STD, whatever the mind can come up with. After this long of a time, when she comes out with the news, he is likely to be even more upset no matter what. Beyond the lack of trust that she is showing him, all the reason that HE thinks she isn't having sex, it's likely this is something that he never thought of.
From her perspective, she knows she is not telling him the truth and is hiding something huge for a long period of time. She knows that this is wrong to do, yet she is doing it otherwise. She likely feels bad about the lack of sex, but can do nothing about it (in her mind) so it makes her feel worse everyday.
Now, with all these doubts and insecurities in both persons mind, how exactly does that lead to a good and happy relationship?
Some people can be content not having sex in a relationship that is not even a year yet. js
but you're right she probably isn't happy knowing she isn't being honest in the slightest
[quote=Fzero]I can't believe that they are truly happy with each others relationship, while it may seem like they're happy in public, they are probably being torn up in the inside (no pun)
Consider it from his perspective, it has been 8 months without any real sexual relationship. He has to feel that there is some reason for this like, here to being attracted to him, maybe an STD, whatever the mind can come up with. After this long of a time, when she comes out with the news, he is likely to be even more upset no matter what. Beyond the lack of trust that she is showing him, all the reason that HE thinks she isn't having sex, it's likely this is something that he never thought of.
From her perspective, she knows she is not telling him the truth and is hiding something huge for a long period of time. She knows that this is wrong to do, yet she is doing it otherwise. She likely feels bad about the lack of sex, but can do nothing about it (in her mind) so it makes her feel worse everyday.
Now, with all these doubts and insecurities in both persons mind, how exactly does that lead to a good and happy relationship?[/quote]
Some people can be content not having sex in a relationship that is not even a year yet. js
but you're right she probably isn't happy knowing she isn't being honest in the slightest
Some people can be content not having sex in a relationship that is not even a year yet. js
but you're right she probably isn't happy knowing she isn't being honest in the slightest
Yes, that maybe true, but it's a statistical minority. Thus it's more likely that our person is in the majority, which is why I assumed it.
[quote]Some people can be content not having sex in a relationship that is not even a year yet. js
but you're right she probably isn't happy knowing she isn't being honest in the slightest[/quote]
Yes, that maybe true, but it's a statistical minority. Thus it's more likely that our person is in the majority, which is why I assumed it.
They broke up, she was upset about it so I didn't wanna bug her with the subject anymore.
They broke up, she was upset about it so I didn't wanna bug her with the subject anymore.
Goddamn. I'd think that subject is pretty damn important in a relationship and should be one of the first things talked about. The longer you wait, the worse the situation gets.
Goddamn. I'd think that subject is pretty damn important in a relationship and should be one of the first things talked about. The longer you wait, the worse the situation gets.
It has nothing to do with going 8 months without a sexual experience with the partner and everything to do with going 8 months keeping such a huge secret from them. :/
It has nothing to do with going 8 months without a sexual experience with the partner and everything to do with going 8 months keeping such a huge secret from them. :/
after this jerry clip i had the same reaction as this guy
http://puu.sh/1aYiX
amazing.
sorry about your friend though marisa
after this jerry clip i had the same reaction as this guy
[img]http://puu.sh/1aYiX[/img]
amazing.
sorry about your friend though marisa
m4risaWhat do you think?
How would you feel if you were dating a pre-op trans without knowing and then she suddenly tells you after eight months?
I'd feel like drinking hard liquor and watching www.prolapsed.net
[quote=m4risa]
What do you think?
How would you feel if you were dating a pre-op trans without knowing and then she suddenly tells you after eight months?[/quote]
I'd feel like drinking hard liquor and watching www.prolapsed.net
what the fuck is this thread even
what the fuck is this thread even
i duno man, something about chicks with dicks. can we just firebomb this thread
i duno man, something about chicks with dicks. can we just firebomb this thread
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSUW-Z_Cnc0[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2LjwM3B688[/youtube]