That's what clockwork needs. Sensitivity changing mouse by design.

I'm sorry but ew

Just imagine what he could do with a mouse that actually tracks his hand perfectly.

that windows optical mouse isnt the famed WMO.. dont buy it

this is correct link

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-D66-00029-Wheel-Mouse-Optical/dp/B00006B7HB?tag=teamfortresst-20

you called the EC1 the regular one when you linked the evo. Which is good we want the EC1 evo there, but you should mention "evo" part.

are there any mouse that has 400 dpi that cant be change except for wmo or intellimouse

ZOWIE EC1 EVO and QCK Heavy

Why must it be unchangeable?

just need the right surface i guess

yes like wmo but other brand

Just wanted to point out that I got a WMO and IMO for $5 a piece at my local Goodwill (they usually carry a few). But I'd definitely pay $30 for them. Great mice, but don't forget to check your local thrift stores. Those places can be treasure troves ;)

That is not an answer to my question.

There's the EC2 eVo which is just like the EC1 but smaller. Good for those who find the Deathadder or EC1 kinda big. Cycles through 450/1150/2300 DPI with a button on the bottom. Has a glossy white version and a rubberized black version. Comes with free replacement mouse feet and a Zowie case sticker that looks pretty good on a Mazda Protege.

MS IE 3.0 is pretty sweet yes?
heard that it's reliable from multiple nerdlords so probably going to get one to replace my 1337 tier cyborg v3

edit: on its way, no regretz

Do people buy the IME because it's cheap? As far as I know it has pretty big amounts of negetive acceleration at high speeds?

i've never heard that
price is a big factor, but i've heard the ergonomics/sensor are really good and just wanted to try optical.
if I didn't mind paying more I would have got a zowie fk

http://www.esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1265679&page=5

After 1.6m/s it starts falling off.

http://esreality.com/?a=longpost&id=1300293&page=2

Deathadder hits 3.92/ms before it goes bad (at 1800dpi, lower dpi settings are worse)

If you like the ergonomics and have the money the ec1/2 evo are a better choice

The Zowie EC1 you listed is actually an EC1 eVo. There's a big difference between the two.

Hein Mid L is what I use and it's great. I think there are some other Artisan Hein users here as well.

DEATHADDER
and
ARTISAN HAYATE LARGE

OK, I'm gonna buy a new mouse soon, razer mice are shit. Opinions on Zowie AM or Zowie FK? What are the big differences?

ill explain cause apparently im one of those nerdlords ur referring to (lol)

so like were gonna go back to 2000-2004 when I started gaming (i was 10 or something) but anyways, back then the ballmouse was dying (ZeRo4 still used one im sure^^) and m$ optical mice were god. and of the m$ mice, everyone used the light grey ime 3.0, every top player/pro/legend in quake, cs, ut, mohaa, and cod all I saw was the 3.0 (and occasionally other m$ mice).

but times change and some other companies start making optical mice, I lost my 3.0 so I had the pleasure of using a dell optical mouse for a bit (wtf! :(). like a lot of ppl I moved on to an mx518 cause it has cool dents and its new or whatever, then the g5 (first corded laser mouse, moar dpi!! thx a lot logitech). m$ stops making the 3.0 (the wmo and imo 1.1 gain popularity amongst m$ fans), the dpi bandwagon is in full swing and numerous awful mice are released. eventually ppl start realizing laser sucks. the 3.0 is brought back due to popular demand (but the build quality is inferior to the original). ESR mousescore comes out confirming laser sucks and then the max control speed bandwagon starts. people buy the mx300/500 solely because it got first place in the test and they think they are superhumans who move their mouse at 4m/s (lol). The death adder is released with an optical sensor, (it scores very well on ESR) and I get one. but it just doesn't feel good :o( so im sad. so I go back to my original 3.0 <3 cause its a legend. Sujoy admits that his ESReality test doesn't matter that much, and goes back to his wmo stating 'There is something unquantifiably great about it. Just feels right.' And to this day many Quake pros use the WMO, IMO 1.1 and IME 3.0. I know m$ mice aren't perfect, mine has the scroll wheel is removed cause it always breaks, it has aftermarket mousefeet, and I have to manually overclock the USB port. I tried so many mice (I'm sorry for cheating on u), but I always come back to m$ 400dpi despite the flaws. Newschoolers will hate but they just don't understand, ily4evr <3.0

FK. the only difference is the shape of the sides and the color..

well I use about 16cm/360, so that literally won't affect me ever.
don't care about theoretical statistics of stuff if it's not actually going to happen.

Thanks for the info. I've seen its flaws e.g scroll wheel, mouse 4/5 but it still looks like a really solid mouse. My current mouse feels really inconsistent which is probably because of a shitty sensor and that accel wave effect Koeitje brought up. Just want a light mouse that feels good and can handle some twitch stuff without inconsistencies so this sounds good.

Maybe differentiate between hard and soft pads

Definitely a good idea -- I need to work on reformatting this thread so it looks more like my keyboard thread.

possibly a weird question, but what's the biggest mouse you guys have used? I prefer a palm grip but I have very large hands and too much of my hand drags on the desk/pad with the mice I've used. To this point the Deathadder and the G400 were both too small. I'm using a Corsair M60 now and it's ok but if there's something bigger I'd like to try it. Price is not an issue.

I <3 my G400

Well the Steelseries Xai works for GeT_RiGhT so it can't be that big of a deal