Just because you've got the money, doesn't mean you have to spend it. And you don't even have it yet and parts and prices will change by the time you're done with your summer job.

So there are some questions. Do you really need a 5800X? Though I guess at this budget there's nothing wrong with it. Clockrate advantage is marginal but you might as well.
What is the WD Black for? If you're buying an HDD for cheap storage you're doing it wrong, there's much cheaper, if you're buying an HDD for fast storage you're doing it very wrong, any SSD will be much faster.
And you really don't need a 750W PSU, especially since a 1660S in that build is just a giant WHY?

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2070S isn't exactly new and MSRP is 499$. I hope you're not planning on buying one for 1500$. Even the most overpriced used 2070S should be a fraction of that.

2 TB is quite a bit less than 4 TB. How much do you really need? You can also get 4TB for around 70$, let alone 3TB, so I'm not really seeing the point of paying 55-60$ for a 2TB.

Grade as in efficiency rating? Completely different thing. There'd be nothing wrong with getting an RMx 550W if 550W is all you need (and with that CPU it is for anything short of a 300W GPU) if Corsair didn't insist on ridiculous prices for the lower end models on top of selling different PSUs under the same name to keep everyone guessing if what they'll get is actually as good as the reviews suggest.

Hey,
Recently I got a little extra 450-500 USD and planning on completing the gaming-oriented setup (using 144 hz monitor). Right now I have the gtx 1080, ssd, a 750W PSU and need advice on which CPU (do not care about oc), Mobo (doesn't matter ATX or mATX) and RAM should I get, within the specified budget, if possible. I am considering buying something like ASROCK B560 Steel Legend + i5-10400F and 16 gb CRUCIAL Ballistix (BL8G32C16U4B). Would it be a good or terrible choice? What are the other options here?
Thanks in advance for the help!

11400F would be slightly faster and get you PCIe 4.0, not sure if it's worth the extra money though. B560 for the memory overclocking makes sense.

Unless you want to go hunting for a used 3600X(T) AMD doesn't really have anything in that price range with the same single core / game performance.

Well, I guess I'll stick with Intel then
ty, papa Setsul <3

Hey,
about 3 years ago I bought a complete PC (HP OMEN 880 Intel Core i5-8400 2.8GHz), I'm not too good with computers so some of what I'm saying might be wrong.
My processor is struggling at the moment with running tf2 and other apps at the same time (firefox and spotify), I often need to end processes to play tf2 without lagging hard, I've added more RAM to my PC so thats not a problem.
I've looked at upgrading to a 10th gen i5 processor but I think i need to upgrade my motherboard as well because of the different socket types on my motherboard and the newer i5. Also I don't know if a newer motherboard would fit into my chassis?
I have a budget of £400-£500
If you could help me find a processor that can multitask and run a bit faster, and a motherboard that could hold it that would be great, thanks.

Seems to be a standard µATX board so any of those should fit in the chassis.

"At the moment" implies that this wasn't the case from the get-go. I refuse to believe that firefox, spotify or TF2 became that much harder to run in the last 3 years.
So either you bought a pc that was lagging right from the start, then I have to really question your decision making, or you just want to go back to how things were, not an actual upgrade.
Check for overheating and reinstall windows before doing anything stupid.

You've already got a 6 core, if you want something that can "multitask and run a bit faster" you'd be looking at an 8 core for 300 bucks or more and I really, really don't see why you should need that just to run TF2, firefox, and spotify "without lagging hard". I could do that with a 10 year old quad core. The only things stopping me are that my quad core isn't quite that old and that I'm not using spotify. But I've got a lot of other shit running instead.

The PC was brand new when i bought it.
I've made a mistake though, the model I have has an i5-7400 in it which is an older model and has 4 cores, does that make a difference?
Sorry for the inconvenience, again, I'm super dumb when it comes to this.

Doesn't really answer my question, did it always suck or is this a recent problem?

this is a recent problem

Then check for overheating and do a clean install of windows. Yes, it's going to take a while, but it's a whole lot cheaper than buying a new CPU and mobo because of windows doing windows things and then ending up reinstalling windows anyway because it got confused by a new mobo.

ok thanks man

Hello everybody!
The motherboard from my old PC died so I thought that I now might be a good time to do some upgrading. I’m looking for a PC that will be able to run TF2 at a minimum of 144 fps with a 1920x1080 resolution while at the same being able to do some other stuff (browsing, videocalls and so on) on my other 1080p monitor. In the future when the GPU prices drop, I plan to also would also like to be able to run other games (don’t know which ones though) at a high framerate after buying a new GPU. But, for the time being I plan to keep my old Gigabyte GeForce GTX 680 4 GB video card.
From what I’ve read it seems reasonable to also keep my 850 W power supply from around 2013.

The new parts I’m considering are:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X
RAM: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16
MOBO: MSI MAG B550 Tomahawk ATX AM4
SSD: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME

What are your thoughts on a build like this? Any tips on how to improve it? Would spending a bit more on a CPU have a substantial difference on tf2 performance? I’m not very interested in overclocking or other stuff like that because I doubt that I have the skills or balls necessary to do so.

You'll probably want RAM that isn't an SSD.
The rest seems fine.
850W is more than enough.

No, I don't see how you'd get any substantial difference in TF2 performance. Extra cores wouldn't do anything and you don't want to overclock so it comes down to stock clockrate. Paying 50% more for a 5800X that's 0.1 GHz faster, a bit over 2%, just isn't worth it. I've got no idea how an 11600K(F) compares to a 5600X in TF2 specifically, because it's faster for some things and slower for others. On average it's slightly slower in games, so I wouldn't gamble on that unless someone confirms it's faster or you want to save money (not sure how it'd work out with the mobo, though there's also the 11600) or have another reason.

Danke Setsul.

I meant to write Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 for RAM.

Now I feel confident enough to start ordering the part :)

Yes, that should work.
If you want to make extra sure, there's a compatibility list here:
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MAG-B550-TOMAHAWK#support-mem-21
Compatibility -> Memory By RX-5xxx
You'll need the exact part number.

Awesome, I will certainly check that out

I'm planning on buying a third monitor but my issue is that my graphics card has 2 display ports, 1 usb-c and 2 hdmi. I read somewhere that newer hdmi cables support 144hz. How do I know if my rtx2070 and xl2411p support 144hz on hdmi though? It seems that the xl2411p has hdmi 1.4 and the rtx2070 has hdmi 2. I guess the alternative could be to use some kind of displayport to usb-c, if that would even work

^ posted too soon. Found displayport to usb-c that supports 144hz :)

DisplayPort 1.0 supports 1080p 144Hz (meaning any DP at all).
HDMI 1.3 supports 1080p 144Hz.
But yes, if you really, really want to, you can use USB-C too.
It's not the easiest way, it is not the cheapest way, it is not the sanest way, it is not even the most logical way, since for USB-C->DP to support 1080p 144Hz DP has to support it on its own and the devices you want to connect both have it, but yes, since in your case literally any cable that fits would work and get you 1080p 144Hz, you can use that way.

I do not recommend it, and I will judge you for it though.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hnsVnt

Trying to build a pc that runs tf2 at 144 fps at all times atleast in a competitive format (6v6), will use masterconfig low aswell as other tf2 optimizations (I like my game to look as shit as possible). Was mainly wondering if I should up the price by a couple hundred bucks to get a better cpu/mobo combo. Planning on getting a gpu from my friend or something of that likes. Ik tf2 doesn’t require much of a gpu so I plan on getting something low end. No plans on streaming or playing other games besides csgo.

budget?

I have enough money to buy like a really nice pc so it’s not like I only have a certain amount and I’m trying to scrape by with this build, I just don’t play any triple a titles and like to save money. I’m just mainly wondering if this is 2 barebones and whether it’s worth it to slightly upgrade the cup mobo combo for better value

Thinking about upgrading my current pc just for extra headroom as I feel like my i5-6500 is a little outdated and want more cpu prowess for tf2 and other stuff like adobe (wonder if thats how adobe works lol). Like its enough to run tf2 at 144fps in most situations for 6s, but I want more. I'm thinking either i5 12400 or r5 3600/5600 thoughts?

#3844
Ngl, that's some weird shit.
Why would you buy a two years old motherboard that costs more than the CPU based on the same old 6.5 years old architecture that Intel finally moved away from? You could dig an old 7700K out from somewhere and it'd be faster and much cheaper. 7700 (and 6700 for that matter) would be slightly lower clocked but you'd still be able to find those for a fraction of the price.

You need either a budget as an upwards limit or a performance goal as a downwards limit, and generally try to make it a little less weird. Either you want a new CPU or you don't.

#3847
There is no 5600, only the 5600X. It's much better than a 3600 and the 3600 is old enough that it's getting hard to find a new one, especially if you want it to actually be cheaper than a 5600X. So I'd say the 3600 is right out.

12400 is a bit faster than a 5600X in pretty much everything and cheaper, though the mobos are more expensive, so the price roughly evens out. No idea how it works out in terms of performance with overclocking though, because the 12400 can sort of be overclocked, but you need a rather expensive mobo and Intel will probably try to get that locked down again asap.
If it weren't for mobo prices and Intel incessant need to ensure their customers don't get anything they specifically paid for, it'd be easy. As it is, you genuinely have a choice where there's no clear winner and no real wrong answer, unlike in recent years.

I should’ve stated that I just slapped that into the build more as a filler. The part I’m most uneducated about is motherboards and was hoping for suggestions on good boards. What board would you reccomend for the 10105f. As for the second part are you suggesting I go 2nd hand for this type of cheaper build? If you believe I should shoot higher cpu wise what would you reccomend (150-250 price range wise)

#3849
See

I simply do not recommend the 10105F at all.
If you want a Skylake CPU then anything from 6000 upwards works and will be much cheaper 2nd hand.
If you want a new CPU then a 12100F will be much faster. Same MSRP, if you're really desperate to get a cheap CPU now and can't wait until it's in stock, see above.
Any build that calls for a 2+ years old mobo is weird.

No I can wait and plan to do plenty of it, thanks for the help, I’ll be on the lookout for some good 2nd hand deals and for some restocks

bet y'all can't do it like me B)

cpu: amd a4 3300
gpu: nvidia geforce gt 730
mobo: biostar a55mlc2 ((literally just looked it up i didn't even knew))
ram: 4gb x2 ddr3
storage: a toshiba 500gb hdd
monitor: LG Flatron L1750S (4:3 75hz)