Yo, could you make a pcpartpicker for me too?

budget of £400 max, living in South Wales, already got a graphics card* and a nice HDD and SSD.

Just looking for a machine that won't run TF like a toaster and will be able to play newer games.

*(gtx 660ti asus dcuii version, very large card)

PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/WVb2WZ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/WVb2WZ/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£161.94 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS5X Performa CPU Cooler (£12.14 @ Amazon UK)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 PRO3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£86.59 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Memory: Patriot Signature 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£52.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£30.25 @ Scan.co.uk)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£44.11 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £388.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Should be a nice build, if you wanna spend 400 quid exactly I would suggest getting the CM Hyper 212+ as it should give you more oc'ing headroom. But even with that cooler it should get to 4.2 GHz ez

Marry me.

Also my local PC shop are huuuuge nerds and I talk with them a lot (looking to maybe get a part time job there) and they built my current rig for free and have said they'd build my newer rig for free as well when I get it. They'll manage the airflow and stuff and make sure everything all goes in nicely, so no worries there :D[/quote]

:D hit me up when it is finished, also if needed I got some cool articles in how to overclock (oc'ing nowadays is really easy).

Sure man, gonna have to wait months for it though, need to save up and money's really tight. ;_;

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The RAM is CL11, just saying.
Also only the 210 Elite got USB 3.0 front ports.

Two possible builds and some options:
No overclocking (mATX):
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£152.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-G43 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£49.00 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£56.83 @ Amazon UK)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£31.44 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£35.52 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £325.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

mild overclocking:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£169.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.25 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£62.15 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£56.83 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£37.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£35.52 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £386.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Options:
If you want dual channel RAM (higher voltage, doesn't matter unless you want to OC it): Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
Multi-Rail PSU, non modular though: be quiet! PURE POWER L8 350W
Higher efficiency PSU, also multi-rail, more expensive though: be quiet! STRAIGHT POWER E9 | 400W

For some more serious overclocking and more features (most notably SLI):
Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H or
ASRock Z97 EXTREME4
The 212 will probably limit you though.

Well I'd like to overclock a little, so the mild OC build looks good, thanks.

What was wrong with kiler's build btw? (new to pc building)

Good choices as well Setsul, but you can tighten timmings through UEFI? My ram is CL11 1866 and I have it running @ 2200 MHz CL11 as well, and since the ram is cheaper I opted for it. As for your motherboard I suggest the Asrock, as I have had good experience with their OC capabilities (also VRM cooling, even if little). The power Supply I suggested also has more headroom for the future.

Good choice on the Elite though, did not notice the absence of front USB 3.0. The 212 shouldn't limit it that much, as from what I've seen these newer processors get to about 4.5 GHz with 1.28 (and you should stress test them with x264).

I love you all.

Did you increase the voltage? Anyway 1600MHz CL11 is pretty bad and the price difference is so small that I doubt anyone would actually down bin 1600MHz CL9 to CL11, so those are simply the duds and might not overclock at all.
I didn't criticise your motherboard choice, I picked a different one for the sole reason that it's cheaper.
1.3V+ is where I would worry about VRMs on the low end boards and get one of higher quality, 100£+ boards and that's where the 212 wouldn't be sufficient anymore aswell.

Ok so what build should I go for :S

I'd like some mild overclocking capabilities

I'd say this one:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (£169.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.25 @ Scan.co.uk)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£62.15 @ Ebuyer)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£58.99 @ Amazon UK)
Case: NZXT Source 210 Elite (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (£37.99 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£35.52 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £388.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Well after going your suggestions and arguments (c:) I'd like your opinions on this (PCPartPicker part list)

On Setsul's build I'd go with an Asrock Z97 Pro3 and the XFX 550 for some futureproofing. Other than that it seems good.

Thanks guys, I appreciate the help!

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200% the PSU capacity you need isn't future proofing when the mainboard doesn't even support 2-way crossfire/SLI. If he ever upgrades to a 300W GPU he can still buy 450-500W PSU.
Afaik the Pro3 has the same features, just because it's more expensive doesn't mean it's better.

Keep in mind that he's on a budget.

So I doubt that upgrades like a high end GPU will happen soon.

Ok, I'm going for this as my final build.

Fair enough on the PSU side, still think he should invest on the Asrock though, not features, but overall Asrock's UEFI is easier to understand and usually gets more stable OC's. Anyway it is up to him to choose. I'm perhaps talking like this cause I've had a pleasant experience with Asrock.

Yeah, it's probably personal bias.
I've used both UEFIs but I can't really comment on which one is easier to understand because I'd already seen lots of confusing layouts so I was used to it by that point.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WhKKK8
Thoughts? Had a friend make this for me. Prefer it to be under 1200.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock B85M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($86.38 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($66.66 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1068.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

+Faster CPU
+cheaper motherboard (the price of the H87-PRO is fucked up, 50% more than the 2nd most expensive H87 mobo)
+cheaper RAM, same performance
+cheaper HDD, same performance
+slightly more expensive SSD, double the capacity, way faster
+2.5 times faster GPU
+microATX
+cheaper PSU, fully modular instead of semi modular
+overall cheaper

There is enough money left for overclocking if you want to.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($25.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87M Extreme4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($86.38 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($339.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($66.66 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1128.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Case too expensive for the rest of components, too weak of gpu for the price, don't need such an expensive power supply, motherboard is overpriced as hell, you can get out with a much better build for that price. Do you really need legit windows?

EDIT: go for the second setsul build

Im more interested in a nvidia card, what would be a good replacement to the amd? also thanks for the feedback and help :)

Edit: I forgot to mention unfortunately I will be using wifi

Why not an AMD one? Are you going to be using Nvidia specific features like CUDA? Also an wifi card is like 15$ extra, not that much.

Nothing more than me liking the brand more, its kinda dumb but its still what I prefer.

Unless you need nvidia for the software/drivers/features (CUDA, Linux, G-Sync/3D) you're only going to spend more.

For Wifi get a Card/Stick. Check what standards/speed your router supports.

shadowplay is also a pretty nice feature on nvidia from what I've seen. Bang for the buck is usually solidly on the AMD side but there are compelling reasons to go Nvidia.

Ive just gotten word that I will have a little bit more money in my budget, would it be worth upgrading maybe the processor a bit more? Or the case for some extra room?

Unless you're going for a multiple GPU configuration now or in the near future or do some tasks that require a metric fuckton of CPU power, it's NO to both.

I would bump that i5 up to a 4670k, and possibly buy a cooler if you would like to overclock.

Edit: idk which list we're talking about