Please read. It is important that everyone reads this. Send it to your friends.
So someone added me willing to buy my unusual that I've been trying to sell for like 8-9 months with tf2keys. Basically he demanded that I trade my unusual to my friend so he could have some sort of 'report'. I don't know what he was talking about I just wanted to get rid of this piece of shit.
So I traded it to my friend, and then asked him to trade it back to me so he did. After that my friend sent me another trade request for the hat so I gave it to him, then the guy who originally added me removed me.
Now, my friend is bugging me for his stuff back when I did not trade him, and he doesn't have my unusual that I just traded to him.
I am out a cloud 9 grenadiers softcap, and my friend is out 18 csgo keys and 1 karambit csgo knife case hardened (~350$).
All I can think what went down is he created alt accounts exactly as ours (same alias', same profile pictures, etc) then asked us to trade without adding us. Steam did not open a separate chat window, I was 100% certain I was trading my friend back my unusual, as he was 100% certain he was trading me his stuff. The trade popups occured WITHIN our chat boxes to our friends and we both did not add anybody except this original trader, aliased as "AlexisSuzumiya's" the entire time, not changing his profile picture nor his alias.
Just be wary that this can happen. I'm not sure if I can get my stuff back or if my friend (firefly) can get his. I'm much more worried for him as he did lose a massive ~350$ worth of csgo stuff.
I guess I open a steam ticket? Iunno I've never been scammed before and thought I would never be. This is a huge flaw in Steam.
This is his account anyways. http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198122486972/
EDIT: I think the craziest part about this is your friend could trade you and you would have no idea if it's actually your friend trading you or some alt. I guess you could click on the profile picture inside the trade to figure out if it's your friend or not. Shit's fucked.
EDIT2: Wow I spelt phishing wrong and I just noticed I'm retarded
Please read. It is important that everyone reads this. Send it to your friends.
So someone added me willing to buy my unusual that I've been trying to sell for like 8-9 months with tf2keys. Basically he demanded that I trade my unusual to my friend so he could have some sort of 'report'. I don't know what he was talking about I just wanted to get rid of this piece of shit.
So I traded it to my friend, and then asked him to trade it back to me so he did. After that my friend sent me another trade request for the hat so I gave it to him, then the guy who originally added me removed me.
Now, my friend is bugging me for his stuff back when I did not trade him, and he doesn't have my unusual that I just traded to him.
I am out a cloud 9 grenadiers softcap, and my friend is out 18 csgo keys and 1 karambit csgo knife case hardened (~350$).
All I can think what went down is he created alt accounts exactly as ours (same alias', same profile pictures, etc) then asked us to trade without adding us. Steam did not open a separate chat window, I was 100% certain I was trading my friend back my unusual, as he was 100% certain he was trading me his stuff. The trade popups occured WITHIN our chat boxes to our friends and we both did not add anybody except this original trader, aliased as "AlexisSuzumiya's" the entire time, not changing his profile picture nor his alias.
Just be wary that this can happen. I'm not sure if I can get my stuff back or if my friend (firefly) can get his. I'm much more worried for him as he did lose a massive ~350$ worth of csgo stuff.
I guess I open a steam ticket? Iunno I've never been scammed before and thought I would never be. This is a huge flaw in Steam.
This is his account anyways. http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198122486972/
EDIT: I think the craziest part about this is your friend could trade you and you would have no idea if it's actually your friend trading you or some alt. I guess you could click on the profile picture inside the trade to figure out if it's your friend or not. Shit's fucked.
EDIT2: Wow I spelt phishing wrong and I just noticed I'm retarded
Kinda late now but if you're worried about shit like this you could use steam nicknames to differentiate people in the chat window.
Kinda late now but if you're worried about shit like this you could use steam nicknames to differentiate people in the chat window.
Wait so he added you, made you trade it to your friend, then he traded your friend for the unusual? I am kind of confused.
Wait so he added you, made you trade it to your friend, then he traded your friend for the unusual? I am kind of confused.
spiderman would never do this
that sucks if you cant get ur stuff back
spiderman would never do this
that sucks if you cant get ur stuff back
that happened to me before, steam support wont grant your lost items back from this
they only help people have been hijacked
;(
that happened to me before, steam support wont grant your lost items back from this
they only help people have been hijacked
;(
eeeKinda late now but if you're worried about shit like this you could use steam nicknames to differentiate people in the chat window.
It was in the chat window. Like a white popup inside the chat window that opened up a trade with me and some other guy with the same name and profile picture. At least that's what I think happened. There is no other explanation. Some Steam flaw probably?
[quote=eee]Kinda late now but if you're worried about shit like this you could use steam nicknames to differentiate people in the chat window.[/quote]
It was in the chat window. Like a white popup inside the chat window that opened up a trade with me and some other guy with the same name and profile picture. At least that's what I think happened. There is no other explanation. Some Steam flaw probably?
FayngWait so he added you, made you trade it to your friend, then he traded your friend for the unusual? I am kind of confused.
No we never traded the original guy. Me and my friend (firefly) were just bouncing back trades to one another basically. He must've created 2 separate accounts with our same names and alias' and somehow traded us, but the trade he sent us popped up in me and firefly's chat window to each other.
[quote=Fayng]Wait so he added you, made you trade it to your friend, then he traded your friend for the unusual? I am kind of confused.[/quote]
No we never traded the original guy. Me and my friend (firefly) were just bouncing back trades to one another basically. He must've created 2 separate accounts with our same names and alias' and somehow traded us, but the trade he sent us popped up in me and firefly's chat window to each other.
so the guy who added you changed his name and profile to look like your friends and you fell for it? why would you give the hat back to your friend after you had already done what he said? why would your friend demand for your hat back?
so the guy who added you changed his name and profile to look like your friends and you fell for it? why would you give the hat back to your friend after you had already done what he said? why would your friend demand for your hat back?
clorgso the guy who added you changed his name and profile to look like your friends and you fell for it? why would you give the hat back to your friend after you had already done what he said? why would your friend demand for your hat back?
No the people we traded our shit to we never added in the first place. It was like me and firefly were trading each other.
Me and firefly are pretty close friends, we usually just trade each other stuff anyways so we didn't give a second thought as to why exactly we wanted to trade. Firefly is the only person I would trust enough to give him my unusual so there's that.
[quote=clorg]so the guy who added you changed his name and profile to look like your friends and you fell for it? why would you give the hat back to your friend after you had already done what he said? why would your friend demand for your hat back?[/quote]
No the people we traded our shit to we never added in the first place. It was like me and firefly were trading each other.
Me and firefly are pretty close friends, we usually just trade each other stuff anyways so we didn't give a second thought as to why exactly we wanted to trade. Firefly is the only person I would trust enough to give him my unusual so there's that.
All this phishing crap is really getting out of hand. Sorry Hellbent :<
All this phishing crap is really getting out of hand. Sorry Hellbent :<
i remember this one guy said he wanted to buy my unusual and sent me a link, and i was like i dont even have a unusual and the guy said yes i did, and went on for like an hour trying to prove i did, it got to the point where i took screenshots and he still didnt believe me. Makes you wonder about these guys
i remember this one guy said he wanted to buy my unusual and sent me a link, and i was like i dont even have a unusual and the guy said yes i did, and went on for like an hour trying to prove i did, it got to the point where i took screenshots and he still didnt believe me. Makes you wonder about these guys
That is an insanely elaborate scam. Is this like organized crime or kids who got tired of runescape scamming?
That is an insanely elaborate scam. Is this like organized crime or kids who got tired of runescape scamming?
MasterKuniThat is an insanely elaborate scam. Is this like organized crime or kids who got tired of runescape scamming?
If you were talking to a good friend of yours and then they sent you a trade request which pops up inside the chat window you're talking to each other in, how would you know it's your friend trading you and not some alt with the same alias that you don't even have added? This is elaborate imo, because it is some sort of Steam glitch that I had no idea about.
[quote=MasterKuni]That is an insanely elaborate scam. Is this like organized crime or kids who got tired of runescape scamming?[/quote]
If you were talking to a good friend of yours and then they sent you a trade request which pops up inside the chat window you're talking to each other in, how would you know it's your friend trading you and not some alt with the same alias that you don't even have added? This is elaborate imo, because it is some sort of Steam glitch that I had no idea about.
lol some guy tried to this to me but he could not speak English properly LOL
lol some guy tried to this to me but he could not speak English properly LOL
Hellbentclorgso the guy who added you changed his name and profile to look like your friends and you fell for it? why would you give the hat back to your friend after you had already done what he said? why would your friend demand for your hat back?
No the people we traded our shit to we never added in the first place. It was like me and firefly were trading each other.
Me and firefly are pretty close friends, we usually just trade each other stuff anyways so we didn't give a second thought as to why exactly we wanted to trade. Firefly is the only person I would trust enough to give him my unusual so there's that.
Odd that he directed you to trade with him. Was it his suggestion "trade with firefly" or did you say who would trade with "I'm trading with firefly" ? Perhaps he looked at your trade history and saw that you traded with him the most.
[quote=Hellbent][quote=clorg]so the guy who added you changed his name and profile to look like your friends and you fell for it? why would you give the hat back to your friend after you had already done what he said? why would your friend demand for your hat back?[/quote]
No the people we traded our shit to we never added in the first place. It was like me and firefly were trading each other.
Me and firefly are pretty close friends, we usually just trade each other stuff anyways so we didn't give a second thought as to why exactly we wanted to trade. Firefly is the only person I would trust enough to give him my unusual so there's that.[/quote]
Odd that he directed you to trade with him. Was it his suggestion "trade with firefly" or did you say who would trade with "I'm trading with firefly" ? Perhaps he looked at your trade history and saw that you traded with him the most.
I just want to try to confirm exactly the steps of what happened because it's not super clear
This guy targeted you both, created accounts to look like both of yours
Then gave you each the same pitch, and so you sent your unusual to the scammer that looked like your friend, via trade requests, and vice versa?
Or am I way off base
I just want to try to confirm exactly the steps of what happened because it's not super clear
This guy targeted you both, created accounts to look like both of yours
Then gave you each the same pitch, and so you sent your unusual to the scammer that looked like your friend, via trade requests, and vice versa?
Or am I way off base
kaceHellbentclorgso the guy who added you changed his name and profile to look like your friends and you fell for it? why would you give the hat back to your friend after you had already done what he said? why would your friend demand for your hat back?
No the people we traded our shit to we never added in the first place. It was like me and firefly were trading each other.
Me and firefly are pretty close friends, we usually just trade each other stuff anyways so we didn't give a second thought as to why exactly we wanted to trade. Firefly is the only person I would trust enough to give him my unusual so there's that.
Odd that he directed you to trade with him. Was it his suggestion "trade with firefly" or did you say who would trade with "I'm trading with firefly" ? Perhaps he looked at your trade history and saw that you traded with him the most.
No, it was just a vague "trade it to a friend of yours"
GetawhaleI just want to try to confirm exactly the steps of what happened because it's not super clear
This guy targeted you both, created accounts to look like both of yours
Then gave you each the same pitch, and so you sent your unusual to the scammer that looked like your friend, via trade requests, and vice versa?
Or am I way off base
He targeted me, asked me to trade the hat to one of my friends and send him the steam ID so he could add him as well. I was talking to my friend prior to him actually adding me. No one new added me and there was no new messages. Just 2 chatboxes of me to my friend, and of me to the scammer.
Me and my friend basically just bounced trades back and forth because his team was scrimming. I was thinking that the guy messaged my friend to get the hat back from me so I accepted a trade that popped up INSIDE me and my friends chatbox. It was exactly as if my friend asked me to trade. So I finished the trade giving my friend the hat.
I then opened his inventory and he didn't have it, and then he starts bugging me for his stuff back because the guy just removed him. My friend said that I asked for his items.
I never once traded anybody that wasn't my friend. No trades occurred outside of that 1 chatbox.
That's what happened. Everything past that is speculation on my part of how the hell did this actually happen.
[quote=kace][quote=Hellbent][quote=clorg]so the guy who added you changed his name and profile to look like your friends and you fell for it? why would you give the hat back to your friend after you had already done what he said? why would your friend demand for your hat back?[/quote]
No the people we traded our shit to we never added in the first place. It was like me and firefly were trading each other.
Me and firefly are pretty close friends, we usually just trade each other stuff anyways so we didn't give a second thought as to why exactly we wanted to trade. Firefly is the only person I would trust enough to give him my unusual so there's that.[/quote]
Odd that he directed you to trade with him. Was it his suggestion "trade with firefly" or did you say who would trade with "I'm trading with firefly" ? Perhaps he looked at your trade history and saw that you traded with him the most.[/quote]
No, it was just a vague "trade it to a friend of yours"
[quote=Getawhale]I just want to try to confirm exactly the steps of what happened because it's not super clear
This guy targeted you both, created accounts to look like both of yours
Then gave you each the same pitch, and so you sent your unusual to the scammer that looked like your friend, via trade requests, and vice versa?
Or am I way off base[/quote]
He targeted me, asked me to trade the hat to one of my friends and send him the steam ID so he could add him as well. I was talking to my friend prior to him actually adding me. No one new added me and there was no new messages. Just 2 chatboxes of me to my friend, and of me to the scammer.
Me and my friend basically just bounced trades back and forth because his team was scrimming. I was thinking that the guy messaged my friend to get the hat back from me so I accepted a trade that popped up INSIDE me and my friends chatbox. It was exactly as if my friend asked me to trade. So I finished the trade giving my friend the hat.
I then opened his inventory and he didn't have it, and then he starts bugging me for his stuff back because the guy just removed him. My friend said that I asked for his items.
I never once traded anybody that wasn't my friend. No trades occurred outside of that 1 chatbox.
That's what happened. Everything past that is speculation on my part of how the hell did this actually happen.
is it possible the scammer made two replica accounts of you and firely, he then joined a steam group that you two were in and messaged/traded you via the group. you never got a friend request from anyone because you were never on his friends list when he traded/messaged you on the fake account.
is it possible the scammer made two replica accounts of you and firely, he then joined a steam group that you two were in and messaged/traded you via the group. you never got a friend request from anyone because you were never on his friends list when he traded/messaged you on the fake account.
crossfireis it possible the scammer made two replica accounts of you and firely, he then joined a steam group that you two were in and messaged/traded you via the group. you never got a friend request from anyone because you were never on his friends list when he traded/messaged you on the fake account.
I guess. I don't know much about how all the different sorts of trading work, but that could've happened definitely. I was completely baffled as was firefly. Sucks because we used to trade each other lots of stuff like unusual hats to wear for the night or something. Not willing to do that again.
What doesn't change is that we got the trade requests in the chatboxes to each other.
[quote=crossfire]is it possible the scammer made two replica accounts of you and firely, he then joined a steam group that you two were in and messaged/traded you via the group. you never got a friend request from anyone because you were never on his friends list when he traded/messaged you on the fake account.[/quote]
I guess. I don't know much about how all the different sorts of trading work, but that could've happened definitely. I was completely baffled as was firefly. Sucks because we used to trade each other lots of stuff like unusual hats to wear for the night or something. Not willing to do that again.
What doesn't change is that we got the trade requests in the chatboxes to each other.
If someone is willing to accept you trading your stuff to a friend (or anyone that isn't a steamrep middleman) as any proof of anything, you are getting scammed. They also like impersonating middlemen, so you have to watch out for that as well. This was pretty popular a couple years ago and it's apparently making a comeback with enough people not falling for the "add this guy staemcomunilrty.com/whatever"; phishing link anymore.
And steam probably isn't gonna help with this since your account wasn't hijacked. Shit sucks.
If someone is willing to accept you trading your stuff to a friend (or anyone that isn't a steamrep middleman) as any proof of anything, you are getting scammed. They also like impersonating middlemen, so you have to watch out for that as well. This was pretty popular a couple years ago and it's apparently making a comeback with enough people not falling for the "add this guy staemcomunilrty.com/whatever" phishing link anymore.
And steam probably isn't gonna help with this since your account wasn't hijacked. Shit sucks.
FuzzyIf someone is willing to accept you trading your stuff to a friend (or anyone that isn't a steamrep middleman) as any proof of anything, you are getting scammed. They also like impersonating middlemen, so you have to watch out for that as well. This was pretty popular a couple years ago and it's apparently making a comeback with enough people not falling for the "add this guy staemcomunilrty.com/whatever"; phishing link anymore.
And steam probably isn't gonna help with this since your account wasn't hijacked. Shit sucks.
I knew most ways people could fish, I'm not stupid. But this caught me really off guard. It was just me trading a friend. Stupid shit idk how it works. If we don't get our stuff back I'm probably just gunna give all my shit to firefly. I am more or less to blame for him getting into this mess. He has lost A LOT of money and I don't really have any use for hats n stuff.
[quote=Fuzzy]If someone is willing to accept you trading your stuff to a friend (or anyone that isn't a steamrep middleman) as any proof of anything, you are getting scammed. They also like impersonating middlemen, so you have to watch out for that as well. This was pretty popular a couple years ago and it's apparently making a comeback with enough people not falling for the "add this guy staemcomunilrty.com/whatever" phishing link anymore.
And steam probably isn't gonna help with this since your account wasn't hijacked. Shit sucks.[/quote]
I knew most ways people could fish, I'm not stupid. But this caught me really off guard. It was just me trading a friend. Stupid shit idk how it works. If we don't get our stuff back I'm probably just gunna give all my shit to firefly. I am more or less to blame for him getting into this mess. He has lost A LOT of money and I don't really have any use for hats n stuff.
"I'm not stupid" -- every guy who ever fell for a scam
"I'm not stupid" -- every guy who ever fell for a scam
How did firefly end up losing the cs stuff if you guys were trading the unusual?
How did firefly end up losing the cs stuff if you guys were trading the unusual?
sky_How did firefly end up losing the cs stuff if you guys were trading the unusual?
Same way I lost the unusual. I can't say why he would trade me his csgo stuff I don't even own csgo lol. We usually ask each other for things and borrow items from each other. Well I guess not anymore.
[quote=sky_]How did firefly end up losing the cs stuff if you guys were trading the unusual?[/quote]
Same way I lost the unusual. I can't say why he would trade me his csgo stuff I don't even own csgo lol. We usually ask each other for things and borrow items from each other. Well I guess not anymore.
If you have two people with the exact same name on your friendlist, one of them normally has a "(1)" behind the name.
But if he didn't add you or your friend this doesn't apply I guess. Hope you get your stuff back!
If you have two people with the exact same name on your friendlist, one of them normally has a "(1)" behind the name.
But if he didn't add you or your friend this doesn't apply I guess. Hope you get your stuff back!
This is huge.
You guys need to find a way to reproduce this glitch and send a detailed report with the steps to reproduce this to someone like erics@valvesoftware.com, not shitty customer support. This is your best bet to get your items back and then some, I guess.
Also, if you visit your trade history, which account pops up when you click on the name of that guy you traded with? If that guy changed his name, is the 'name of your friend' still on the list of old nicknames on his profile?
This is huge.
You guys need to find a way to reproduce this glitch and send a detailed report with the steps to reproduce this to someone like erics@valvesoftware.com, not shitty customer support. This is your best bet to get your items back and then some, I guess.
Also, if you visit your trade history, which account pops up when you click on the name of that guy you traded with? If that guy changed his name, is the 'name of your friend' still on the list of old nicknames on his profile?
Thanks for this thread. Read it and about 4hours later, he added me. He didn't even know how many unusuals I had or what they were. I did this because I wanted to try and get proof he was a scammer so I could report but didn't want to risk it at the beginning. SO i tried to be 'nice'
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8:13 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: why are you telling me to quit
8:13 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: and so i did not do anything wrong
8:14 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: did someone scam you
8:14 PM - Minho: no you scammed somoene else
8:14 PM - Minho: and they complain and warned us about you
8:14 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: that's not true
8:14 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: if i scam someone
8:14 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: i would have the stuff
8:15 PM - Minho: okie
8:15 PM - Minho: how much do you want to buy my unusual for
8:15 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: im clean
8:15 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: no i dont want to buy it anymore
8:15 PM - Minho: lool
8:15 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: you hurt my feelings
8:15 PM - Minho: So someone added me willing to buy my unusual that I've been trying to sell for like 8-9 months with tf2keys. Basically he demanded that I trade my unusual to my friend so he could have some sort of 'report'. I don't know what he was talking about I just wanted to get rid of this piece of shit.
8:15 PM - Minho: All I can think what went down is he created alt accounts exactly as ours (same alias', same profile pictures, etc) then asked us to trade without adding us. Steam did not open a separate chat window, I was 100% certain I was trading my friend back my unusual, as he was 100% certain he was trading me his stuff. The trade popups occured WITHIN our chat boxes to our friends and we both did not add anybody except this original trader, aliased as "AlexisSuzumiya's" the entire time, not changing his profile picture nor his alias.
8:15 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: you hurt my feeling and my identity
8:16 PM - Minho: This is his account anyways. http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198122486972/
8:16 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: no
8:16 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: don't tell that to me
8:16 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: it's not true
8:16 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: maybe someone just setup me
8:17 PM - Minho: Oh ok
8:17 PM - Minho: Sorry bro
8:17 PM - Minho: So how much would you like to buy it for
8:17 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: i dont want you unusual anymore
8:17 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: you hurt me
8:17 PM - Minho: what unusual did I have?
8:17 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: i will cry now
8:17 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: don't
8:18 PM - Minho: How many do I have?
8:18 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: i hate you
8:18 PM - Minho: hahahhahaha
8:18 PM - Minho: your a fucking
8:18 PM - Minho: scammer
8:18 PM - Amazing SpideR Man is now Offline.
Thanks for this thread. Read it and about 4hours later, he added me. He didn't even know how many unusuals I had or what they were. I [s]did this[/s] because I wanted to try and get proof he was a scammer so I could report but didn't want to risk it at the beginning. SO i tried to be 'nice'
-snip-
8:13 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: why are you telling me to quit
8:13 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: and so i did not do anything wrong
8:14 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: did someone scam you
8:14 PM - Minho: no you scammed somoene else
8:14 PM - Minho: and they complain and warned us about you
8:14 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: that's not true
8:14 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: if i scam someone
8:14 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: i would have the stuff
8:15 PM - Minho: [s]okie[/s]
8:15 PM - Minho: how much do you want to buy my unusual for
8:15 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: im clean
8:15 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: no i dont want to buy it anymore
8:15 PM - Minho: lool
8:15 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: you hurt my feelings
8:15 PM - Minho: So someone added me willing to buy my unusual that I've been trying to sell for like 8-9 months with tf2keys. Basically he demanded that I trade my unusual to my friend so he could have some sort of 'report'. I don't know what he was talking about I just wanted to get rid of this piece of shit.
8:15 PM - Minho: All I can think what went down is he created alt accounts exactly as ours (same alias', same profile pictures, etc) then asked us to trade without adding us. Steam did not open a separate chat window, I was 100% certain I was trading my friend back my unusual, as he was 100% certain he was trading me his stuff. The trade popups occured WITHIN our chat boxes to our friends and we both did not add anybody except this original trader, aliased as "AlexisSuzumiya's" the entire time, not changing his profile picture nor his alias.
8:15 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: you hurt my feeling and my identity
8:16 PM - Minho: This is his account anyways. http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198122486972/
8:16 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: no
8:16 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: don't tell that to me
8:16 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: it's not true
8:16 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: maybe someone just setup me
8:17 PM - Minho: Oh ok
8:17 PM - Minho: [s]Sorry bro[/s]
8:17 PM - Minho: So how much would you like to buy it for
8:17 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: i dont want you unusual anymore
8:17 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: you hurt me
8:17 PM - Minho: what unusual did I have?
8:17 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: i will cry now
8:17 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: don't
8:18 PM - Minho: How many do I have?
8:18 PM - Amazing SpideR Man: i hate you
8:18 PM - Minho: hahahhahaha
8:18 PM - Minho: your a fucking
8:18 PM - Minho: scammer
8:18 PM - Amazing SpideR Man is now Offline.
any trader who plays the emotional injury card when accused of scamming is most likely a scammer
a legit trader would be confused or humored
any trader who plays the emotional injury card when accused of scamming is most likely a scammer
a legit trader would be confused or humored
Several days ago someone added me asking to buy earbuds and he wanted me to trade them to a friend because he was afraid of getting scammed. I assumed he just didn't know how trading worked but now I'm not so sure :o
Can't even trust strangers on the internet these days
Several days ago someone added me asking to buy earbuds and he wanted me to trade them to a friend because he was afraid of getting scammed. I assumed he just didn't know how trading worked but now I'm not so sure :o
Can't even trust strangers on the internet these days
La_maisonThis is huge.
You guys need to find a way to reproduce this glitch and send a detailed report with the steps to reproduce this to someone like erics@valvesoftware.com
It's not a glitch, its simple social engineering. A friend of mine got scammed a 200$ CSGO knife the same way...
Pretty much all they have to do it tell you to trade the stuff they want to buy to another person (close friend or so) for him to act as a middleman or some other reason, so you feel comfortable doing it, then create an exact copy of your profile with an alt steam account (only same avatar + nick) and tell you for your friend to trade the stuff back. And send a trade offer or a trade request at the same time to him so it looks like it's really you asking for your stuff back. Now this was already doable with simple trade requests but with steam offers its even easier because you dont have the chat window open to confirm who it is. And the only way to be safe is to doublecheck the steam profile on the trade offer but since 99% of the people view the nick + avatar of their best friend and then just dont confirm at all many people fall for it
[quote=La_maison]This is huge.
You guys need to find a way to reproduce this glitch and send a detailed report with the steps to reproduce this to someone like erics@valvesoftware.com
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It's not a glitch, its simple social engineering. A friend of mine got scammed a 200$ CSGO knife the same way...
Pretty much all they have to do it tell you to trade the stuff they want to buy to another person (close friend or so) for him to act as a middleman or some other reason, so you feel comfortable doing it, then create an exact copy of your profile with an alt steam account (only same avatar + nick) and tell you for your friend to trade the stuff back. And send a trade offer or a trade request at the same time to him so it looks like it's really you asking for your stuff back. Now this was already doable with simple trade requests but with steam offers its even easier because you dont have the chat window open to confirm who it is. And the only way to be safe is to doublecheck the steam profile on the trade offer but since 99% of the people view the nick + avatar of their best friend and then just dont confirm at all many people fall for it