Fair point. But what I am saying is you can't just base rankings for a player off just i58 in terms of performance. Secondly the bias comes in because frankly not much support from the casters on Froyo's side or Jasmine's side but they clearly had a lot more over the top points to make about EU teams.

I felt the performance of the EU teams was good and they deserved to get into the finals. But I am not talking about the teams. I am talking about certain performances of INDIVIDUAL PLAYERS on the team.

You certainly can when it's a ranking of performance at i58.....

u defo a b4nny sub

As long as demoman has Paulsen #1 followed by alle and spudd (in either order) and Muma last, I will have 0 complaints about these rankings. Keep up the great work CX

fight me dreamboat

Well you just gotta be there for i61 for that to happen^

Wtf are with the pockst scout rankings? Hafficool defenitely didnt deserve first, he was way inferior to b4nny and astt, the ranks should hve been yui, haffi, astt, b4nny. For flank scouts Madness, Thalash, Free, Starkie. Honestly it seems like yoy are pretty much ordering them on how well their team did.

Downvote me all you want, But it seems quite biased.

People aren't going to downvote you because you think the list is biased. They're going to downvote you because your rankings are retarded.

Do you honestly think that haffi did better than astt and b4nny? I also watched the games you know. My lists arent exactly retarted, they were pretty close to the ops lists, only a few things were changed.

I think that b4nny and astt were probably tied for first and second, so it was hard to rank them, for my flank scout lists I only changed thalash and free, I agree that thalash did better overall but freestate did well when his team most needed it and pulled through, and that is flank scouts role, to make big plays. I def agree that stark deserves first for that.

I agree mostly with his medic and roamer lists.

thats funny coming from you when you sound pretty salty.

Retarted
Adjective
When something is tarted again

shiet should have made more flashy plays for the stream (as a pocket scout) so plebs think im good

I promise never to say Haffi is good again. I apologise i'm only european

Every pocket soldier rocked it at LAN, here is how i ranked them: https://commanderxblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/09/i58-player-rankings-pocket-soldier/

This I actually agree with. I believe it is fair based on performance of said players.

Good write up.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZX1oN5UMAATtqy.png

"And soldier isnt quite underpowered" Who ever said he was underpowered :/
What are the downvotes for?

I was curious on why people think soldier is underpowered.

Because scout and demo is better?

That doesnt exactly make him up.

nice writeups and explanations, but I feel like a few of these were a little bit too much based on the presupposition that the 1st and 2nd place teams must be better across all 6 classes, even when the margins were super small

I'd personally go

medic:
1. raymon
2. kos/phorofor/dave (all did a lot of negative things in very different ways)

demo:
1. paulsen
2. spudd
3. alle
4. muma

pocket:
1. kaptain
2. silentes
3. geoh
4. tlr

roamer:
1. mike
2. drackk
3. paddie
4. zaka

pocket scout:
1. astt
2. b4nny
3. yui
4. hafficool

flank scout:
1. stark
2. freestate
3. thalash
4. madness

or so

I mean Soldier is much better than any of the other classes available so in that case he isn't UP but lets say if scoutlimit was 3 and demolimit was 2, we wouldn't see any soldiers I think.

This is of course if we think the skill level is equal for the players.

VoHiYo

The final instalment of the individual player rankings at i58, the demomen: https://commanderxblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/10/i58-player-rankings-demomen/

Tomorrow I will do a release a top 5 players overall with some other surrounding thoughts and summaries of the players at i58

You're goddamn right

So CX's allstar team would be

Stark (Crowns)
Haffi (Crowns)
Mike (FT)
Sil (FT)
Paulsen (JT)
Raymon (Crowns)

I can't disagree with that. Only difference for me would be maybe Astt instead of haffi, but that is more off of my own parameters of pocket scout rankings instead of one player out performing another.

Just wrote something along the same lines with a few thoughts about my rankings and a bit of a summary https://commanderxblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/11/i58-player-rankings-reflections/

(Will release my top 5 player rankings later on today)

I agree with your dream team except for haffi on pocket scout, I think b4nny or astt should be it. Especially if you werent allowed to have a coach and then I would pick b4nny for his calls.

My dream team from i58
Pocket scout: B4nny
Flank scout: Starkie
Pocket: Sil
Roamer: Mike
Demo: Alle or Paulsen
Medic: Raymon

My dream team from every player would be the same except for shade or nursey on medic.

Sorry OP, but the link to the demomen article doesn't work here, I think you need to remove the 'the' in the URL. Otherwise, thanks for the articles!

As promised here are my top 5 players and final thoughts: https://commanderxblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/11/i58-player-rankings-top-5-players-overall/

Going forward I'm probably going to write a more in-depth piece about coaching in TF2 and at i58, maybe some unlock stuff too

fuck me the 4th place curse runs deep..