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is it possible to talk about any man made object without describing our experiences with it?

is it possible to talk about any man made object without describing our experiences with it?
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yea

yea
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#3
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no

no
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#4
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what

what
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#5
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who cares

who cares
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#6
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define experience

define experience
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newbie.tf
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hamahamis it possible to talk about any man made object without describing our experiences with it?

u can but ur descriptions gonna suck

[quote=hamaham]is it possible to talk about any man made object without describing our experiences with it?[/quote]
u can but ur descriptions gonna suck
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thoughts on Baudrillard???

thoughts on Baudrillard???
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yes, i can accurately talk about anything w/o appealing to my own experience and it would be true. the knowledge by description vs knowledge by acquaintance distinction aka the analytic-synthetic description. You bring up a man-made object of which i have no experience of in a discussion. I can just make true analytic claims about the object you have brought up. I can say: That man-made object was made by a man. You could retort by saying that mojodakidd only knows that this man-made object was made by a man cause he only has experience of man-made objects being made by men, but this won't suffice as I have made an a-priori tautological claim about the man-made object without having to use any a posteriori evidence aka evidence from my own experience due to the definition of man-made objects entailing that a man made it. No experience needed to talk about any man-made object or anything at all when I can make tautological statements about it.

yes, i can accurately talk about anything w/o appealing to my own experience and it would be true. the knowledge by description vs knowledge by acquaintance distinction aka the analytic-synthetic description. You bring up a man-made object of which i have no experience of in a discussion. I can just make true analytic claims about the object you have brought up. I can say: That man-made object was made by a man. You could retort by saying that mojodakidd only knows that this man-made object was made by a man cause he only has experience of man-made objects being made by men, but this won't suffice as I have made an a-priori tautological claim about the man-made object without having to use any a posteriori evidence aka evidence from my own experience due to the definition of man-made objects entailing that a man made it. No experience needed to talk about any man-made object or anything at all when I can make tautological statements about it.
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thoughts on creativity and education being platonic anamnesis? knowledge is in the soul from eternity, learning is rediscovering what one has forgotten so to speak

thoughts on creativity and education being platonic anamnesis? knowledge is in the soul from eternity, learning is rediscovering what one has forgotten so to speak
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thinking too hard about life is the fast track to not enjoying it

thinking too hard about life is the fast track to not enjoying it
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#12
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Virus is bad thing it gets on computer and then there is virus.

Virus is bad thing it gets on computer and then there is virus.
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i spy with my little eye something red

i spy with my little eye something red
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https://kidfromthe6ix.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/screen-shot-2014-11-24-at-1-59-38-am.png?w=481

[img]https://kidfromthe6ix.files.wordpress.com/2014/11/screen-shot-2014-11-24-at-1-59-38-am.png?w=481[/img]
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Murk_the_ScribeNo experience needed to talk about any man-made object or anything at all when I can make tautological statements about it.

This is true, but then it is also true that every statement that is made is vacuous and meaningless unless you have the correct information. What is the difference between theoretical unknown object A, and theoretical unknown object B if there is no foundation of understanding?

[quote=Murk_the_Scribe]No experience needed to talk about any man-made object or anything at all when I can make tautological statements about it.[/quote]

This is true, but then it is also true that every statement that is made is vacuous and meaningless unless you have the correct information. What is the difference between theoretical unknown object A, and theoretical unknown object B if there is no foundation of understanding?
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#16
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Tino_Murk_the_ScribeNo experience needed to talk about any man-made object or anything at all when I can make tautological statements about it.
This is true, but then it is also true that every statement that is made is vacuous and meaningless unless you have the correct information. What is the difference between theoretical unknown object A, and theoretical unknown object B if there is no foundation of understanding?

Equations that just describe things like energy, mass, frequency and their relative differences.

[quote=Tino_][quote=Murk_the_Scribe]No experience needed to talk about any man-made object or anything at all when I can make tautological statements about it.[/quote]

This is true, but then it is also true that every statement that is made is vacuous and meaningless unless you have the correct information. What is the difference between theoretical unknown object A, and theoretical unknown object B if there is no foundation of understanding?[/quote]
Equations that just describe things like energy, mass, frequency and their relative differences.
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#17
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Ok but with no context what does e=mc2 mean? It only has meaning because we understand what the letters and numbers reference. Light isnt universally known as c, that is the human interface that is used to mathematically describe it.

Ok but with no context what does e=mc2 mean? It only has meaning because we understand what the letters and numbers reference. Light isnt universally known as c, that is the human interface that is used to mathematically describe it.
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#18
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Tino_Murk_the_ScribeNo experience needed to talk about any man-made object or anything at all when I can make tautological statements about it.
This is true, but then it is also true that every statement that is made is vacuous and meaningless unless you have the correct information. What is the difference between theoretical unknown object A, and theoretical unknown object B if there is no foundation of understanding?

i can still talk about a man-made object without having experience of it, that was my point.

[quote=Tino_][quote=Murk_the_Scribe]No experience needed to talk about any man-made object or anything at all when I can make tautological statements about it.[/quote]

This is true, but then it is also true that every statement that is made is vacuous and meaningless unless you have the correct information. What is the difference between theoretical unknown object A, and theoretical unknown object B if there is no foundation of understanding?[/quote]
i can still talk about a man-made object without having experience of it, that was my point.
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eXtelevision
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RoLEquations that just describe things like energy, mass, frequency and their relative differences.

RainofLight = Gonna Snipe.

[quote=RoL]
Equations that just describe things like energy, mass, frequency and their relative differences.[/quote]

RainofLight = Gonna Snipe.
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dbkthinking too hard about life is the fast track to not enjoying it

much like you might enjoy disconnecting from perceiving reality as it is, i like to think about it

[quote=dbk]thinking too hard about life is the fast track to not enjoying it[/quote]
much like you might enjoy disconnecting from perceiving reality as it is, i like to think about it
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