My team leader is like b4nny but 14 years old. He loves himself like nobody else, he's too invested in becoming an intern for daddy Elon musk to realize that this behavior is worrying, and he constantly goes heavy offclass, how do I make him stop being a cocky little b4nny wannabe and make him a normal person? Or, since I'm technically the rgl team leader, how do I tell him he's cut from the team without all of my other team members being like
"dude uncool"
and leaving the team?? I like the rest of my team but this little gay baby little bitch motherfucker is worrying me and I don't want to play a season with somebody who thinks the quick fix is underpowered and that you should literally always go an offclass even when your flank scout has other duties and so there's no way to build when you're defending last and you don't have uber when they push even though you should have and you lose the game because that happens 3 times!
Whenever I say that I have more experience than him (5 more seasons) he just says "MGE me, I will beat you right now" and literally actually fucking intentionally forgets the times when I beat him and remembers the times when I say "I really don't want to mge right now" so he fucking destroys me (20-15) because I'm tired and fucking sad.
It's his second season but he always acts like he knows more than me and starts an argument about why I shouldn't have dropped in that fight like i get it bitch I have 120 ping, go eat a dick.
Good god, he's always trying to argue about something. I feel like my fucking uncle right now. My aunt and my uncle meet in like china or some shit, they date for a while, fuck, have a child, get married, and argue. Now they are constantly arguing and it's tiring to be around them. Even though it's obvious that both of them are to some extent to blame, they both blame it on each other, and it's unproductive. My aunt now says she doesn't even like my uncle despite having like a fucking 1 year old child with him (for me this is our team, which he originally started as a ugc steel team but I thought of the name and brought over to RGL for its second season).
It feels like all friendships sometimes have these moments (similarly with all marriages) but this isn't fading. It's almost every time we talk. He's this existential 14 year old who thinks he's perfect all the time (apart when he apologises for being a toxic asshole in a call and then proceedes to change nothing about his behavior).
I try and be nice and I really, really, really try to tell him to chill out, that everything is alright, nobody is threatening him and his pure masculinity (he also likes jordan peterson) but he just yells and says "shut the fuck up, you're the one who's mad.". I don't know what to do. Since I am technically the rgl team leader I could cut him from the team and there's nothing that really holds him in this team anymore except the fact that all of my team members (all of which I recruited) would either leave the team or permanently think I'm just a sensitive little bitch because all they see is him yelling at me for dropping when 4 players consecutively bomb me AND MY FUCKING COMBO SCOUT (he's combo) IS ACROSS THE FUCKING MID! God damnit. God fucking damnit.
help me.
tldr; in one week I will be lft open/im medic, 5 seasons of experience, first season of medic
Edit: extreme toxicity continues "who the fuck is 5'4, how can you be 5'4 and not fucking kill yourself?"
My team leader is like b4nny but 14 years old. He loves himself like nobody else, he's too invested in becoming an intern for daddy Elon musk to realize that this behavior is worrying, and he constantly goes heavy offclass, how do I make him stop being a cocky little b4nny wannabe and make him a normal person? Or, since I'm technically the rgl team leader, how do I tell him he's cut from the team without all of my other team members being like
"dude uncool"
and leaving the team?? I like the rest of my team but this little gay baby little bitch motherfucker is worrying me and I don't want to play a season with somebody who thinks the quick fix is underpowered and that you should literally always go an offclass even when your flank scout has other duties and so there's no way to build when you're defending last and you don't have uber when they push even though you should have and you lose the game because that happens 3 times!
Whenever I say that I have more experience than him (5 more seasons) he just says "MGE me, I will beat you right now" and literally actually fucking intentionally forgets the times when I beat him and remembers the times when I say "I really don't want to mge right now" so he fucking destroys me (20-15) because I'm tired and fucking sad.
It's his second season but he always acts like he knows more than me and starts an argument about why I shouldn't have dropped in that fight like i get it bitch I have 120 ping, go eat a dick.
Good god, he's always trying to argue about something. I feel like my fucking uncle right now. My aunt and my uncle meet in like china or some shit, they date for a while, fuck, have a child, get married, and argue. Now they are [i]constantly[/i] arguing and it's tiring to be around them. Even though it's obvious that both of them are to some extent to blame, they both blame it on each other, and it's unproductive. My aunt now says she doesn't even like my uncle despite having like a fucking 1 year old child with him (for me this is our team, which he originally started as a ugc steel team but I thought of the name and brought over to RGL for its second season).
It feels like all friendships sometimes have these moments (similarly with all marriages) but this isn't fading. It's almost every time we talk. He's this existential 14 year old who thinks he's perfect all the time (apart when he apologises for being a toxic asshole in a call and then proceedes to change nothing about his behavior).
I try and be nice and I really, really, really try to tell him to chill out, that everything is alright, nobody is threatening him and his pure masculinity (he also likes jordan peterson) but he just yells and says "shut the fuck up, you're the one who's mad.". I don't know what to do. Since I am technically the rgl team leader I could cut him from the team and there's nothing that really holds him in this team anymore except the fact that all of my team members (all of which I recruited) would either leave the team or permanently think I'm just a sensitive little bitch because all they see is him yelling at me for dropping when 4 players consecutively bomb me AND MY FUCKING COMBO SCOUT (he's combo) IS ACROSS THE FUCKING MID! God damnit. God fucking damnit.
help me.
tldr; in one week I will be lft open/im medic, 5 seasons of experience, first season of medic
Edit: extreme toxicity continues "who the fuck is 5'4, how can you be 5'4 and not fucking kill yourself?"
MGE me, I will beat you right now
MGE me, I will beat you right now
are you looking for a question answered or are you just venting in the Q/A forum?
are you looking for a question answered or are you just venting in the Q/A forum?
2 advices:
relax
dont drop so much
2 advices:
relax
dont drop so much
Fuck my ovfucking combo scout dorpped uber again fuck iplease kick this dude off the team
Fuck my ovfucking combo scout dorpped uber again fuck iplease kick this dude off the team
turbochad692 advices:
relax
dont drop so much
i drop like once every 2-3 scrims
[quote=turbochad69]2 advices:
relax
dont drop so much[/quote]
i drop like once every 2-3 scrims
finmanrant
if you own the roster, then you are still the team leader
ask each of your other teammates individually in DMs about cutting him, and if they all agree then give him the snip
if their opinions are mixed then you have to decide for yourself if you want to risk the fallout from cutting him
if they all prefer playing with him then it's probably time for you to find a new team
he'll probably find this thread soon anyway lol
[quote=finman]rant[/quote]
if you own the roster, then you are still the team leader
ask each of your other teammates individually in DMs about cutting him, and if they all agree then give him the snip
if their opinions are mixed then you have to decide for yourself if you want to risk the fallout from cutting him
if they all prefer playing with him then it's probably time for you to find a new team
he'll probably find this thread soon anyway lol
Isohe'll probably find this thread soon anyway lol
you are right, he has found this thread.
[quote=Iso]he'll probably find this thread soon anyway lol[/quote]
you are right, he has found this thread.
https://www.teamfortress.tv/10097/when-is-it-time-to-quit
bro nobody is going to read this
bro nobody is going to read this
why did you post this here instead of talking to him
why did you post this here instead of talking to him
My team leader is like b4nny but 14 years old. He loves himself like nobody else, he's too invested in becoming an intern for daddy Elon musk to realize that this behavior is worrying, and he constantly goes heavy offclass, how do I make him stop being a cocky little b4nny wannabe and make him a normal person? Or, since I'm technically the rgl team leader, how do I tell him he's cut from the team without all of my other team members being like
"dude uncool"
and leaving the team?? I like the rest of my team but this little gay baby little bitch motherfucker is worrying me and I don't want to play a season with somebody who thinks the quick fix is underpowered and that you should literally always go an offclass even when your flank scout has other duties and so there's no way to build when you're defending last and you don't have uber when they push even though you should have and you lose the game because that happens 3 times!
Whenever I say that I have more experience than him (5 more seasons) he just says "MGE me, I will beat you right now" and literally actually fucking intentionally forgets the times when I beat him and remembers the times when I say "I really don't want to mge right now" so he fucking destroys me (20-15) because I'm tired and fucking sad.
It's his second season but he always acts like he knows more than me and starts an argument about why I shouldn't have dropped in that fight like i get it bitch I have 120 ping, go eat a dick.
Good god, he's always trying to argue about something. I feel like my fucking uncle right now. My aunt and my uncle meet in like china or some shit, they date for a while, fuck, have a child, get married, and argue. Now they are constantly arguing and it's tiring to be around them. Even though it's obvious that both of them are to some extent to blame, they both blame it on each other, and it's unproductive. My aunt now says she doesn't even like my uncle despite having like a fucking 1 year old child with him (for me this is our team, which he originally started as a ugc steel team but I thought of the name and brought over to RGL for its second season).
It feels like all friendships sometimes have these moments (similarly with all marriages) but this isn't fading. It's almost every time we talk. He's this existential 14 year old who thinks he's perfect all the time (apart when he apologises for being a toxic asshole in a call and then proceedes to change nothing about his behavior).
I try and be nice and I really, really, really try to tell him to chill out, that everything is alright, nobody is threatening him and his pure masculinity (he also likes jordan peterson) but he just yells and says "shut the fuck up, you're the one who's mad.". I don't know what to do. Since I am technically the rgl team leader I could cut him from the team and there's nothing that really holds him in this team anymore except the fact that all of my team members (all of which I recruited) would either leave the team or permanently think I'm just a sensitive little bitch because all they see is him yelling at me for dropping when 4 players consecutively bomb me AND MY FUCKING COMBO SCOUT (he's combo) IS ACROSS THE FUCKING MID! God damnit. God fucking damnit.
help me.
tldr; in one week I will be lft open/im medic, 5 seasons of experience, first season of medic
My team leader is like b4nny but 14 years old. He loves himself like nobody else, he's too invested in becoming an intern for daddy Elon musk to realize that this behavior is worrying, and he constantly goes heavy offclass, how do I make him stop being a cocky little b4nny wannabe and make him a normal person? Or, since I'm technically the rgl team leader, how do I tell him he's cut from the team without all of my other team members being like
"dude uncool"
and leaving the team?? I like the rest of my team but this little gay baby little bitch motherfucker is worrying me and I don't want to play a season with somebody who thinks the quick fix is underpowered and that you should literally always go an offclass even when your flank scout has other duties and so there's no way to build when you're defending last and you don't have uber when they push even though you should have and you lose the game because that happens 3 times!
Whenever I say that I have more experience than him (5 more seasons) he just says "MGE me, I will beat you right now" and literally actually fucking intentionally forgets the times when I beat him and remembers the times when I say "I really don't want to mge right now" so he fucking destroys me (20-15) because I'm tired and fucking sad.
It's his second season but he always acts like he knows more than me and starts an argument about why I shouldn't have dropped in that fight like i get it bitch I have 120 ping, go eat a dick.
Good god, he's always trying to argue about something. I feel like my fucking uncle right now. My aunt and my uncle meet in like china or some shit, they date for a while, fuck, have a child, get married, and argue. Now they are constantly arguing and it's tiring to be around them. Even though it's obvious that both of them are to some extent to blame, they both blame it on each other, and it's unproductive. My aunt now says she doesn't even like my uncle despite having like a fucking 1 year old child with him (for me this is our team, which he originally started as a ugc steel team but I thought of the name and brought over to RGL for its second season).
It feels like all friendships sometimes have these moments (similarly with all marriages) but this isn't fading. It's almost every time we talk. He's this existential 14 year old who thinks he's perfect all the time (apart when he apologises for being a toxic asshole in a call and then proceedes to change nothing about his behavior).
I try and be nice and I really, really, really try to tell him to chill out, that everything is alright, nobody is threatening him and his pure masculinity (he also likes jordan peterson) but he just yells and says "shut the fuck up, you're the one who's mad.". I don't know what to do. Since I am technically the rgl team leader I could cut him from the team and there's nothing that really holds him in this team anymore except the fact that all of my team members (all of which I recruited) would either leave the team or permanently think I'm just a sensitive little bitch because all they see is him yelling at me for dropping when 4 players consecutively bomb me AND MY FUCKING COMBO SCOUT (he's combo) IS ACROSS THE FUCKING MID! God damnit. God fucking damnit.
help me.
tldr; in one week I will be lft open/im medic, 5 seasons of experience, first season of medic
MakemakeMy team leader is like b4nny but 14 years old. He loves himself like nobody else, he's too invested in becoming an intern for daddy Elon musk to realize that this behavior is worrying, and he constantly goes heavy offclass, how do I make him stop being a cocky little b4nny wannabe and make him a normal person? Or, since I'm technically the rgl team leader, how do I tell him he's cut from the team without all of my other team members being like
"dude uncool"
and leaving the team?? I like the rest of my team but this little gay baby little bitch motherfucker is worrying me and I don't want to play a season with somebody who thinks the quick fix is underpowered and that you should literally always go an offclass even when your flank scout has other duties and so there's no way to build when you're defending last and you don't have uber when they push even though you should have and you lose the game because that happens 3 times!
Whenever I say that I have more experience than him (5 more seasons) he just says "MGE me, I will beat you right now" and literally actually fucking intentionally forgets the times when I beat him and remembers the times when I say "I really don't want to mge right now" so he fucking destroys me (20-15) because I'm tired and fucking sad.
It's his second season but he always acts like he knows more than me and starts an argument about why I shouldn't have dropped in that fight like i get it bitch I have 120 ping, go eat a dick.
Good god, he's always trying to argue about something. I feel like my fucking uncle right now. My aunt and my uncle meet in like china or some shit, they date for a while, fuck, have a child, get married, and argue. Now they are constantly arguing and it's tiring to be around them. Even though it's obvious that both of them are to some extent to blame, they both blame it on each other, and it's unproductive. My aunt now says she doesn't even like my uncle despite having like a fucking 1 year old child with him (for me this is our team, which he originally started as a ugc steel team but I thought of the name and brought over to RGL for its second season).
It feels like all friendships sometimes have these moments (similarly with all marriages) but this isn't fading. It's almost every time we talk. He's this existential 14 year old who thinks he's perfect all the time (apart when he apologises for being a toxic asshole in a call and then proceedes to change nothing about his behavior).
I try and be nice and I really, really, really try to tell him to chill out, that everything is alright, nobody is threatening him and his pure masculinity (he also likes jordan peterson) but he just yells and says "shut the fuck up, you're the one who's mad.". I don't know what to do. Since I am technically the rgl team leader I could cut him from the team and there's nothing that really holds him in this team anymore except the fact that all of my team members (all of which I recruited) would either leave the team or permanently think I'm just a sensitive little bitch because all they see is him yelling at me for dropping when 4 players consecutively bomb me AND MY FUCKING COMBO SCOUT (he's combo) IS ACROSS THE FUCKING MID! God damnit. God fucking damnit.
help me.
tldr; in one week I will be lft open/im medic, 5 seasons of experience, first season of medic
shut up
[quote=Makemake]My team leader is like b4nny but 14 years old. He loves himself like nobody else, he's too invested in becoming an intern for daddy Elon musk to realize that this behavior is worrying, and he constantly goes heavy offclass, how do I make him stop being a cocky little b4nny wannabe and make him a normal person? Or, since I'm technically the rgl team leader, how do I tell him he's cut from the team without all of my other team members being like
"dude uncool"
and leaving the team?? I like the rest of my team but this little gay baby little bitch motherfucker is worrying me and I don't want to play a season with somebody who thinks the quick fix is underpowered and that you should literally always go an offclass even when your flank scout has other duties and so there's no way to build when you're defending last and you don't have uber when they push even though you should have and you lose the game because that happens 3 times!
Whenever I say that I have more experience than him (5 more seasons) he just says "MGE me, I will beat you right now" and literally actually fucking intentionally forgets the times when I beat him and remembers the times when I say "I really don't want to mge right now" so he fucking destroys me (20-15) because I'm tired and fucking sad.
It's his second season but he always acts like he knows more than me and starts an argument about why I shouldn't have dropped in that fight like i get it bitch I have 120 ping, go eat a dick.
Good god, he's always trying to argue about something. I feel like my fucking uncle right now. My aunt and my uncle meet in like china or some shit, they date for a while, fuck, have a child, get married, and argue. Now they are constantly arguing and it's tiring to be around them. Even though it's obvious that both of them are to some extent to blame, they both blame it on each other, and it's unproductive. My aunt now says she doesn't even like my uncle despite having like a fucking 1 year old child with him (for me this is our team, which he originally started as a ugc steel team but I thought of the name and brought over to RGL for its second season).
It feels like all friendships sometimes have these moments (similarly with all marriages) but this isn't fading. It's almost every time we talk. He's this existential 14 year old who thinks he's perfect all the time (apart when he apologises for being a toxic asshole in a call and then proceedes to change nothing about his behavior).
I try and be nice and I really, really, really try to tell him to chill out, that everything is alright, nobody is threatening him and his pure masculinity (he also likes jordan peterson) but he just yells and says "shut the fuck up, you're the one who's mad.". I don't know what to do. Since I am technically the rgl team leader I could cut him from the team and there's nothing that really holds him in this team anymore except the fact that all of my team members (all of which I recruited) would either leave the team or permanently think I'm just a sensitive little bitch because all they see is him yelling at me for dropping when 4 players consecutively bomb me AND MY FUCKING COMBO SCOUT (he's combo) IS ACROSS THE FUCKING MID! God damnit. God fucking damnit.
help me.
tldr; in one week I will be lft open/im medic, 5 seasons of experience, first season of medic[/quote]
shut up
Sorry to hear about your uncles UGC steel team bro, that shit sucks.
Sorry to hear about your uncles UGC steel team bro, that shit sucks.
illyawhy did you post this here instead of talking to him
talking is usually unproductive as he tries to argue with what I'm saying instead of absorbing it and trying to actually improve himself from this criticism, turning it into an argument more than a discussion about how we can improve as players, or alternatively turning to whataboutism and saying
"What about you? What about how bad you are!"
instead of actually trying to improve. Anything I try and say to him is always countered with a statement from him trying to defend his undeniably stupid and shitty actions instead of trying to improve himself. Sometimes, though, he comes back some hours later and apologizes for his actions, and then changes completely absolutely fucking nothing there-on-out.
From this thread, I've gotten real answer(s?) as to what I can do. Even though this thread was made as a complete joke it does reflect reality in many ways and has helped me with this situation overall.
[quote=illya]why did you post this here instead of talking to him[/quote]
talking is usually unproductive as he tries to argue with what I'm saying instead of absorbing it and trying to actually improve himself from this criticism, turning it into an argument more than a discussion about how we can improve as players, or alternatively turning to whataboutism and saying
"What about you? What about how bad you are!"
instead of actually trying to improve. Anything I try and say to him is always countered with a statement from him trying to defend his undeniably stupid and shitty actions instead of trying to improve himself. Sometimes, though, he comes back some hours later and apologizes for his actions, and then changes completely absolutely fucking nothing there-on-out.
From this thread, I've gotten real answer(s?) as to what I can do. Even though this thread was made as a complete joke it does reflect reality in many ways and has helped me with this situation overall.
can you stop making posts about me dude
can you stop making posts about me dude
who is he? i want to meet him and congratulate him on somehow pissing you off so much that you had to make an angery thread on a 14 year old
who is he? i want to meet him and congratulate him on somehow pissing you off so much that you had to make an angery thread on a [b]14 year old[/b]
hey op there's plenty more fish in the sea! good luck!
hey op there's plenty more fish in the sea! good luck!
Honestly man, this is a big learning point. In cases like this the person who can talk quicker and louder is gonna be bullying the conversation where they want it to go, but coming from the position of authority (ex: having already asked teammates, more experience) with being quicker/louder just makes you like a dick and childish. Maneuvering him into a situation where its been established (in the same convo) that the there is no more good will and professionalism to burn. It's currently at being cut or keeping his existing attitude out of the team.
Just laying it out will allow for deflection as you've encountered.
I learned this the hard way with a few of the guys in this thread and it took me too long to adjust once I became settled into the response of just riding it out as you are. It took me a handful of years and the tainted the highlights with my guys over time. If you dont or can't deal with the stress of it, step back or only go for chill/friend teams. I sure as fuck didn't even do that and i deeply regret letting it get that bad, as I can't really play the game or in the environment Ive had the most fun in.
Sympathizing/not-negative-words and expounding on why something works/is better is a good teaching tool if you are able to get him squared away.
tbh just go watch kevin is pwns new videos. His and marxists/ams? older teaching videos are probably the most concrete thing specifically made by/for the scene.
Honestly man, this is a big learning point. In cases like this the person who can talk quicker and louder is gonna be bullying the conversation where they want it to go, but coming from the position of authority (ex: having already asked teammates, more experience) with being quicker/louder just makes you like a dick and childish. Maneuvering him into a situation where its been established (in the same convo) that the there is no more good will and professionalism to burn. It's currently at being cut or keeping his existing attitude out of the team.
Just laying it out will allow for deflection as you've encountered.
I learned this the hard way with a few of the guys in this thread and it took me too long to adjust once I became settled into the response of just riding it out as you are. It took me a handful of years and the tainted the highlights with my guys over time. If you dont or can't deal with the stress of it, step back or only go for chill/friend teams. I sure as fuck didn't even do that and i deeply regret letting it get that bad, as I can't really play the game or in the environment Ive had the most fun in.
Sympathizing/not-negative-words and expounding on why something works/is better is a good teaching tool if you are able to get him squared away.
tbh just go watch kevin is pwns new videos. His and marxists/ams? older teaching videos are probably the most concrete thing specifically made by/for the scene.
finmanillyawhy did you post this here instead of talking to him
talking is usually unproductive as he tries to argue with what I'm saying instead of absorbing it and trying to actually improve himself from this criticism, turning it into an argument more than a discussion about how we can improve as players, or alternatively turning to whataboutism and saying
"What about you? What about how bad you are!"
instead of actually trying to improve. Anything I try and say to him is always countered with a statement from him trying to defend his undeniably stupid and shitty actions instead of trying to improve himself. Sometimes, though, he comes back some hours later and apologizes for his actions, and then changes completely absolutely fucking nothing there-on-out.
From this thread, I've gotten real answer(s?) as to what I can do. Even though this thread was made as a complete joke it does reflect reality in many ways and has helped me with this situation overall.
i do try to take criticism straight and despite my mistakes in the past i have focused very hard on taking criticism without debate recently and focusing on improving myself rather than focusing on helping other people and leaving my own performance without much thought.
[quote=finman][quote=illya]why did you post this here instead of talking to him[/quote]
talking is usually unproductive as he tries to argue with what I'm saying instead of absorbing it and trying to actually improve himself from this criticism, turning it into an argument more than a discussion about how we can improve as players, or alternatively turning to whataboutism and saying
"What about you? What about how bad you are!"
instead of actually trying to improve. Anything I try and say to him is always countered with a statement from him trying to defend his undeniably stupid and shitty actions instead of trying to improve himself. Sometimes, though, he comes back some hours later and apologizes for his actions, and then changes completely absolutely fucking nothing there-on-out.
From this thread, I've gotten real answer(s?) as to what I can do. Even though this thread was made as a complete joke it does reflect reality in many ways and has helped me with this situation overall.[/quote]
i do try to take criticism straight and despite my mistakes in the past i have focused very hard on taking criticism without debate recently and focusing on improving myself rather than focusing on helping other people and leaving my own performance without much thought.
Brolywho is he? i want to meet him and congratulate him on somehow pissing you off so much that you had to make an angery thread on a 14 year old
"Even though this thread was made as a complete joke it does reflect reality in many ways and has helped me with this situation overall."
I was in a call with him while writing this, my original intention was to make it sounds as much like a copypasta as possible. I think I succeeded with that as well as my secondary goal of getting actual help here. This thread still seems more and more regrettable over time. I still think it's fucking funny.
[quote=Broly]who is he? i want to meet him and congratulate him on somehow pissing you off so much that you had to make an angery thread on a [b]14 year old[/b][/quote]
"Even though this thread was made as a complete joke it does reflect reality in many ways and has helped me with this situation overall."
I was in a call with him while writing this, my original intention was to make it sounds as much like a copypasta as possible. I think I succeeded with that as well as my secondary goal of getting actual help here. This thread still seems more and more regrettable over time. I still think it's fucking funny.
stop posting no one cares
stop posting no one cares
Brolywho is he? i want to meet him and congratulate him on somehow pissing you off so much that you had to make an angery thread on a 14 year old
why this is getting upvoted when OP is probably also young and earnestly asking for advice? isnt even a funny comment either
this website's community makes me glad tf2 never took off despite how good it is
e: nevermind i got fucking baited
[quote=Broly]who is he? i want to meet him and congratulate him on somehow pissing you off so much that you had to make an angery thread on a [b]14 year old[/b][/quote]
why this is getting upvoted when OP is probably also young and earnestly asking for advice? isnt even a funny comment either
this website's community makes me glad tf2 never took off despite how good it is
e: nevermind i got fucking baited