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How does one become consistent in matches?
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#1
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I keep having huge outbursts in one game then the next one I just do straight trash I want to learn how to become a lot more consistent with performance.

I keep having huge outbursts in one game then the next one I just do straight trash I want to learn how to become a lot more consistent with performance.
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eXtelevision
35 Frags +

try to take the emotions out of your gameplay. Focus on that.

"I was living in your teammates head rent-free enough you got your ass carried so fucking hard by rampage and blobfish. Your soldiers are washed af.EVEN YOUR OWN TEAM TOLD ME I WAS LIVING IN YOUR TEAMS HEAD FOR RENT FUCKING FREE."

"Yet we almost came back from a 4-0 deficit it was 4-3 we. You don't get to talk shit when you almost blow a 4-0 lead.
Scrim us and see what will happen."

"PLUS NOT TO MENTION MY TEAM HAD ONLY 1 SCRIM ON METAL WORKS. You guys were losing the mental game. You only won the game by a tiny bit."

If they were losing the mental game, sure doesn't sound like they were the ones who lost it yknaow.

try to take the emotions out of your gameplay. Focus on that.

"I was living in your teammates head rent-free enough you got your ass carried so fucking hard by rampage and blobfish. Your soldiers are washed af.EVEN YOUR OWN TEAM TOLD ME I WAS LIVING IN YOUR TEAMS HEAD FOR RENT FUCKING FREE."

"Yet we almost came back from a 4-0 deficit it was 4-3 we. You don't get to talk shit when you almost blow a 4-0 lead.
Scrim us and see what will happen."

"PLUS NOT TO MENTION MY TEAM HAD ONLY 1 SCRIM ON METAL WORKS. You guys were losing the mental game. You only won the game by a tiny bit."

If they were losing the mental game, sure doesn't sound like they were the ones who lost it yknaow.
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#3
3 Frags +

If your outbursts are directed towards what someone says in ingame chat, then just mute it. If it is someone in your stream chat, dont read stream chat. If it happens to be gameplay related, then forget what happened and move on to the next play. Dont get caught up with what already happened, keep moving forward.

If your outbursts are directed towards what someone says in ingame chat, then just mute it. If it is someone in your stream chat, dont read stream chat. If it happens to be gameplay related, then forget what happened and move on to the next play. Dont get caught up with what already happened, keep moving forward.
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#4
7 Frags +

Thank you extine.Will be noted.And seven1.

Thank you extine.Will be noted.And seven1.
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#5
6 Frags +

The more you play the less specific instances will matter to you. You build up a tolerance to the things that people do and say because you've experienced it so much before and it loses its effect because you've "been there, done that, don't care".

Emotional aspects aside, consistency with performance also comes with more playtime and for similar reasons. Especially if you are newer to things your muscle memory relies a lot not only on good practice but a large quantity of it. The longer you've been doing something, generally the less variation you'll see with it. (If only I could learn from that and stick to a damn class). It also helps to try and be consistent yourself. If you really want to improve, rather than binging a bunch of tf2 and then not playing it for a while it would be better for your skill if you adhered to a somewhat coherent schedule.

It also helps to play with the same players for a while. Looking at your rgl page, you seem to bounce around teams too much to really get a consistent environment.

Just my thoughts though

The more you play the less specific instances will matter to you. You build up a tolerance to the things that people do and say because you've experienced it so much before and it loses its effect because you've "been there, done that, don't care".

Emotional aspects aside, consistency with performance also comes with more playtime and for similar reasons. Especially if you are newer to things your muscle memory relies a lot not only on good practice but a large quantity of it. The longer you've been doing something, generally the less variation you'll see with it. (If only I could learn from that and stick to a damn class). It also helps to try and be consistent yourself. If you really want to improve, rather than binging a bunch of tf2 and then not playing it for a while it would be better for your skill if you adhered to a somewhat coherent schedule.

It also helps to play with the same players for a while. Looking at your rgl page, you seem to bounce around teams too much to really get a consistent environment.

Just my thoughts though
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#6
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ydnaThe more you play the less specific instances will matter to you. You build up a tolerance to the things that people do and say because you've experienced it so much before and it loses its effect because you've "been there, done that, don't care".

Emotional aspects aside, consistency with performance also comes with more playtime and for similar reasons. Especially if you are newer to things your muscle memory relies a lot not only on good practice but a large quantity of it. The longer you've been doing something, generally the less variation you'll see with it. (If only I could learn from that and stick to a damn class). It also helps to try and be consistent yourself. If you really want to improve, rather than binging a bunch of tf2 and then not playing it for a while it would be better for your skill if you adhered to a somewhat coherent schedule.

It also helps to play with the same players for a while. Looking at your rgl page, you seem to bounce around teams too much to really get a consistent environment.

Just my thoughts though

I cant help with some of those teams.I was just subbing for atkaski before they died I've been with lunacy for like 2 weeks.But I get why some of them cut me.

[quote=ydna]The more you play the less specific instances will matter to you. You build up a tolerance to the things that people do and say because you've experienced it so much before and it loses its effect because you've "been there, done that, don't care".

Emotional aspects aside, consistency with performance also comes with more playtime and for similar reasons. Especially if you are newer to things your muscle memory relies a lot not only on good practice but a large quantity of it. The longer you've been doing something, generally the less variation you'll see with it. (If only I could learn from that and stick to a damn class). It also helps to try and be consistent yourself. If you really want to improve, rather than binging a bunch of tf2 and then not playing it for a while it would be better for your skill if you adhered to a somewhat coherent schedule.

It also helps to play with the same players for a while. Looking at your rgl page, you seem to bounce around teams too much to really get a consistent environment.

Just my thoughts though[/quote]
I cant help with some of those teams.I was just subbing for atkaski before they died I've been with lunacy for like 2 weeks.But I get why some of them cut me.
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#7
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like extine said try to train emotions out of your play. Being able to think about the game with nothing else clouding your judgement will definitely help your focus

like extine said try to train emotions out of your play. Being able to think about the game with nothing else clouding your judgement will definitely help your focus
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#8
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tojolike extine said try to train emotions out of your play. Being able to think about the game with nothing else clouding your judgement will definitely help your focus

But how does one do this.

[quote=tojo]like extine said try to train emotions out of your play. Being able to think about the game with nothing else clouding your judgement will definitely help your focus[/quote]
But how does one do this.
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#9
3 Frags +

turn chat off, hats off and dont do things that you wouldn't in a scrim in terms of decisionmaking

the decisionmaking thing becomes easier if you have set plays on certain parts of the map bc then if ur brain fucks up u have something decent to fall back on... but it seems like ur pretty new so i think it's fully normal that you'd be inconsistent tbh

turn chat off, hats off and dont do things that you wouldn't in a scrim in terms of decisionmaking

the decisionmaking thing becomes easier if you have set plays on certain parts of the map bc then if ur brain fucks up u have something decent to fall back on... but it seems like ur pretty new so i think it's fully normal that you'd be inconsistent tbh
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#10
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Crayonturn chat off, hats off and dont do things that you wouldn't in a scrim in terms of decisionmaking

the decisionmaking thing becomes easier if you have set plays on certain parts of the map bc then if ur brain fucks up u have something decent to fall back on... but it seems like ur pretty new so i think it's fully normal that you'd be inconsistent tbh

You have a point but most new players in the recent seasons are more consistent then me.I want to be their for my team I don't want them worrying ok young sanity isn't going crazy this game fall back all the time.I just don't know what the difference was with me in my first 3 matches compared to now.

[quote=Crayon]turn chat off, hats off and dont do things that you wouldn't in a scrim in terms of decisionmaking

the decisionmaking thing becomes easier if you have set plays on certain parts of the map bc then if ur brain fucks up u have something decent to fall back on... but it seems like ur pretty new so i think it's fully normal that you'd be inconsistent tbh[/quote]
You have a point but most new players in the recent seasons are more consistent then me.I want to be their for my team I don't want them worrying ok young sanity isn't going crazy this game fall back all the time.I just don't know what the difference was with me in my first 3 matches compared to now.
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#11
4 Frags +

take care of yourself out of game. a really easy way to stay focused and consistent is simply to just have enough energy, especially later in the day when scrims happen.

take care of yourself out of game. a really easy way to stay focused and consistent is simply to just have enough energy, especially later in the day when scrims happen.
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#12
2 Frags +

Play with a playstyle that is effective even if you dont hit every shot. If you are dependent of hitting every shot to be effective you will not be helping your team if your aim is off one day. If you play roamer, look at Seagull demos. He was really good at being valuable to the team, without hitting insane shots. He puts himself in situations where he has the advantage going in to the fight, so his DM does not need to be perfect to win.
long story short: If you cant depend on your aim, depend on your brain.

Play with a playstyle that is effective even if you dont hit every shot. If you are dependent of hitting every shot to be effective you will not be helping your team if your aim is off one day. If you play roamer, look at Seagull demos. He was really good at being valuable to the team, without hitting insane shots. He puts himself in situations where he has the advantage going in to the fight, so his DM does not need to be perfect to win.
long story short: If you cant depend on your aim, depend on your brain.
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#13
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Dr_SpamomanPlay with a playstyle that is effective even if you dont hit every shot. If you are dependent of hitting every shot to be effective you will not be helping your team if your aim is off one day. If you play roamer, look at Seagull demos. He was really good at being valuable to the team, without hitting insane shots. He puts himself in situations where he has the advantage going in to the fight, so his DM does not need to be perfect to win.
long story short: If you cant depend on your aim, depend on your brain.

What if you don't have a brain?That isn't that smart at knowing when you have advantage or if you have hp advantage or anything.Or knowing when to agg and when not to.

[quote=Dr_Spamoman]Play with a playstyle that is effective even if you dont hit every shot. If you are dependent of hitting every shot to be effective you will not be helping your team if your aim is off one day. If you play roamer, look at Seagull demos. He was really good at being valuable to the team, without hitting insane shots. He puts himself in situations where he has the advantage going in to the fight, so his DM does not need to be perfect to win.
long story short: If you cant depend on your aim, depend on your brain.[/quote]
What if you don't have a brain?That isn't that smart at knowing when you have advantage or if you have hp advantage or anything.Or knowing when to agg and when not to.
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#14
19 Frags +

When I’m playing matches that I really care about I type the following commands into console

unbind y (my chat key)
hud_say_text_time 0 (don’t see people potentially BM’ing - keeps the mental game smooth)
unbind tab (I have the match hud enabled at the top of the screen, so I don’t need to press it to see who’s alive. It also prevents me from seeing my K/D ratio, and where my teammates are on the scoreboard - keeps mental game smooth)

Speaking of K/Ds, one thing I see you do a lot youngman is look at your teams stats on the scoreboard by right clicking on their names or whatever. You need to turn this setting off IMMEDIATELY. IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY. Looking at your teammates damage and kills and deaths is a fast track way to push blame onto them for underperforming when there can be a multitude of TEAM factors that can cause them to underperform. If you’re looking at their stats and going “man my demo is feeding”, “man my combo scout can’t frag for shit”, it will cause you to lose motivation in the current match if your team is struggling, or even worse, make you lose confidence in your teammates for the weeks to come which is the WORST thing that can happen on a TEAM where you need to perform as a singular unit.

That’s all the advice I have youngman go chase those dubs

When I’m playing matches that I really care about I type the following commands into console

unbind y (my chat key)
hud_say_text_time 0 (don’t see people potentially BM’ing - keeps the mental game smooth)
unbind tab (I have the match hud enabled at the top of the screen, so I don’t need to press it to see who’s alive. It also prevents me from seeing my K/D ratio, and where my teammates are on the scoreboard - keeps mental game smooth)

Speaking of K/Ds, one thing I see you do a lot youngman is look at your teams stats on the scoreboard by right clicking on their names or whatever. You need to turn this setting off IMMEDIATELY. IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY. Looking at your teammates damage and kills and deaths is a fast track way to push blame onto them for underperforming when there can be a multitude of TEAM factors that can cause them to underperform. If you’re looking at their stats and going “man my demo is feeding”, “man my combo scout can’t frag for shit”, it will cause you to lose motivation in the current match if your team is struggling, or even worse, make you lose confidence in your teammates for the weeks to come which is the WORST thing that can happen on a TEAM where you need to perform as a singular unit.

That’s all the advice I have youngman go chase those dubs
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#15
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GrapeJuiceIIIWhen I’m playing matches that I really care about I type the following commands into console

unbind y (my chat key)
hud_say_text_time 0 (don’t see people potentially BM’ing - keeps the mental game smooth)
unbind tab (I have the match hud enabled at the top of the screen, so I don’t need to press it to see who’s alive. It also prevents me from seeing my K/D ratio, and where my teammates are on the scoreboard - keeps mental game smooth)

Speaking of K/Ds, one thing I see you do a lot youngman is look at your teams stats on the scoreboard by right clicking on their names or whatever. You need to turn this setting off IMMEDIATELY. IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY. Looking at your teammates damage and kills and deaths is a fast track way to push blame onto them for underperforming when there can be a multitude of TEAM factors that can cause them to underperform. If you’re looking at their stats and going “man my demo is feeding”, “man my combo scout can’t frag for shit”, it will cause you to lose motivation in the current match if your team is struggling, or even worse, make you lose confidence in your teammates for the weeks to come which is the WORST thing that can happen on a TEAM where you need to perform as a singular unit.

That’s all the advice I have youngman go chase those dubs

Yeah I'm testing a no chat and tab button theory and its working out so far.

[quote=GrapeJuiceIII]When I’m playing matches that I really care about I type the following commands into console

unbind y (my chat key)
hud_say_text_time 0 (don’t see people potentially BM’ing - keeps the mental game smooth)
unbind tab (I have the match hud enabled at the top of the screen, so I don’t need to press it to see who’s alive. It also prevents me from seeing my K/D ratio, and where my teammates are on the scoreboard - keeps mental game smooth)

Speaking of K/Ds, one thing I see you do a lot youngman is look at your teams stats on the scoreboard by right clicking on their names or whatever. You need to turn this setting off IMMEDIATELY. IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY IMMEDIATELY. Looking at your teammates damage and kills and deaths is a fast track way to push blame onto them for underperforming when there can be a multitude of TEAM factors that can cause them to underperform. If you’re looking at their stats and going “man my demo is feeding”, “man my combo scout can’t frag for shit”, it will cause you to lose motivation in the current match if your team is struggling, or even worse, make you lose confidence in your teammates for the weeks to come which is the WORST thing that can happen on a TEAM where you need to perform as a singular unit.

That’s all the advice I have youngman go chase those dubs[/quote]
Yeah I'm testing a no chat and tab button theory and its working out so far.
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#16
Stream Highlights
35 Frags +

Don't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.

Don't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.
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#17
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TailorTFDon't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.

I was trying to play around my team. Also we dint get blown out so that's all that matters.Sorry for toxicity but I do hope you realize how much it triggers a 13 year old when you say you don't have I'm talent that will trigger someone for years.

[quote=TailorTF]Don't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.[/quote]
I was trying to play around my team. Also we dint get blown out so that's all that matters.Sorry for toxicity but I do hope you realize how much it triggers a 13 year old when you say you don't have I'm talent that will trigger someone for years.
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#18
18 Frags +
Young_SanityvTailorTFDon't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.I was trying to play around my team. Also we dint get blown out so that's all that matters.Sorry for toxicity but I do hope you realize how much it triggers a 13 year old when you say you don't have I'm talent that will trigger someone for years.

There's only oh so far you can go with that excuse at this point

[quote=Young_Sanityv][quote=TailorTF]Don't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.[/quote]
I was trying to play around my team. Also we dint get blown out so that's all that matters.Sorry for toxicity but I do hope you realize how much it triggers a 13 year old when you say you don't have I'm talent that will trigger someone for years.[/quote]
There's only oh so far you can go with that excuse at this point
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#19
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Young_SanityvTailorTFDon't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.I was trying to play around my team. Also we dint get blown out so that's all that matters.Sorry for toxicity but I do hope you realize how much it triggers a 13 year old when you say you don't have I'm talent that will trigger someone for years.

Your blaming our entire team for something that one person said, from what I’ve been told he was trying to be as nice as possible. Just relax and don’t let things get into your head

[quote=Young_Sanityv][quote=TailorTF]Don't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.[/quote]
I was trying to play around my team. Also we dint get blown out so that's all that matters.Sorry for toxicity but I do hope you realize how much it triggers a 13 year old when you say you don't have I'm talent that will trigger someone for years.[/quote]
Your blaming our entire team for something that one person said, from what I’ve been told he was trying to be as nice as possible. Just relax and don’t let things get into your head
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#20
7 Frags +

no one cares dont u have a team discord stop bumping this

no one cares dont u have a team discord stop bumping this
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#21
-7 Frags +
BlobfishYoung_SanityvTailorTFDon't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.I was trying to play around my team. Also we dint get blown out so that's all that matters.Sorry for toxicity but I do hope you realize how much it triggers a 13 year old when you say you don't have I'm talent that will trigger someone for years.You blaming our entire team for something that one person said, from what I’ve been told he was trying to be as nice as possible. Just relax and don’t let things get into your head

I'm not blaming your entire team at all. I'm not saying what I said was right at all.

[quote=Blobfish][quote=Young_Sanityv][quote=TailorTF]Don't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.[/quote]
I was trying to play around my team. Also we dint get blown out so that's all that matters.Sorry for toxicity but I do hope you realize how much it triggers a 13 year old when you say you don't have I'm talent that will trigger someone for years.[/quote]
You blaming our entire team for something that one person said, from what I’ve been told he was trying to be as nice as possible. Just relax and don’t let things get into your head[/quote]
I'm not blaming your entire team at all. I'm not saying what I said was right at all.
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#22
0 Frags +
Young_SanityvBlobfishYoung_SanityvTailorTFDon't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.I was trying to play around my team. Also we dint get blown out so that's all that matters.Sorry for toxicity but I do hope you realize how much it triggers a 13 year old when you say you don't have I'm talent that will trigger someone for years.You blaming our entire team for something that one person said, from what I’ve been told he was trying to be as nice as possible. Just relax and don’t let things get into your headI'm not blaming your entire team at all. I'm not saying what I said was right at all.

Alright, just please relax. I would think you already know what you can fix but just try and be calm. Getting mad is just going to throw off your game which can hurt in the long run

[quote=Young_Sanityv][quote=Blobfish][quote=Young_Sanityv][quote=TailorTF]Don't join our team pregame and tell us that "Your shit boutta get rocked" and "How does it feel to be 4-7" in voice chat. Also stop acting like you're god's gift to the soldier class and play around your team instead of overextending to kill our med.[/quote]
I was trying to play around my team. Also we dint get blown out so that's all that matters.Sorry for toxicity but I do hope you realize how much it triggers a 13 year old when you say you don't have I'm talent that will trigger someone for years.[/quote]
You blaming our entire team for something that one person said, from what I’ve been told he was trying to be as nice as possible. Just relax and don’t let things get into your head[/quote]
I'm not blaming your entire team at all. I'm not saying what I said was right at all.[/quote]
Alright, just please relax. I would think you already know what you can fix but just try and be calm. Getting mad is just going to throw off your game which can hurt in the long run
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#23
3 Frags +

tbh you might just be too immature to have a consistent mental state. Taking emotion out of what you do can be hard and take a while.

I might be wrong but something tells me that you have you have outbursts outside of the game too. Something that helped me is to be conscious of when i was starting to hype myself up/lose control and purposefully bring myself down. It might differ between people but deep breaths, closing my eyes and shit talking myself all helped bring myself down from the high. Remember that every death is a learning experience and try to analyze why you died/made a mistake rather than get all razzled up.

tbh you might just be too immature to have a consistent mental state. Taking emotion out of what you do can be hard and take a while.

I might be wrong but something tells me that you have you have outbursts outside of the game too. Something that helped me is to be conscious of when i was starting to hype myself up/lose control and purposefully bring myself down. It might differ between people but deep breaths, closing my eyes and shit talking myself all helped bring myself down from the high. Remember that every death is a learning experience and try to analyze why you died/made a mistake rather than get all razzled up.
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#24
-5 Frags +
Rebitetbh you might just be too immature to have a consistent mental state. Taking emotion out of what you do can be hard and take a while.

I might be wrong but something tells me that you have you have outbursts outside of the game too. Something that helped me is to be conscious of when i was starting to hype myself up/lose control and purposefully bring myself down. It might differ between people but deep breaths, closing my eyes and shit talking myself all helped bring myself down from the high. Remember that every death is a learning experience and try to analyze why you died/made a mistake rather than get all razzled up.

Most of the time I know why I died its either by being over aggressive or body blocking for my medic or by sacking.Or I just get destroyed by a scout.

[quote=Rebite]tbh you might just be too immature to have a consistent mental state. Taking emotion out of what you do can be hard and take a while.

I might be wrong but something tells me that you have you have outbursts outside of the game too. Something that helped me is to be conscious of when i was starting to hype myself up/lose control and purposefully bring myself down. It might differ between people but deep breaths, closing my eyes and shit talking myself all helped bring myself down from the high. Remember that every death is a learning experience and try to analyze why you died/made a mistake rather than get all razzled up.[/quote]
Most of the time I know why I died its either by being over aggressive or body blocking for my medic or by sacking.Or I just get destroyed by a scout.
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#25
4 Frags +

playing around your team instead of playing for yourself or always going for solo plays will make you more consistent. remember it's a team game. there's no way a player is going to pop off for every game they play, eventually another team will shut them down. make sure you're filling your role on the team and playing it well. practice dm/bot maps to warm up and watch your demos to see where you made mistakes / actively try to not make the same decisions that led you to that mistake in the first place. good luck

playing around your team instead of playing for yourself or always going for solo plays will make you more consistent. remember it's a team game. there's no way a player is going to pop off for every game they play, eventually another team will shut them down. make sure you're filling your role on the team and playing it well. practice dm/bot maps to warm up and watch your demos to see where you made mistakes / actively try to not make the same decisions that led you to that mistake in the first place. good luck
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#26
27 Frags +

If this game is by some miracle of god still alive in 5 years, I am very excited at the prospect of speaking with Old_Sanity and asking him about these threads

If this game is by some miracle of god still alive in 5 years, I am very excited at the prospect of speaking with Old_Sanity and asking him about these threads
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#27
-4 Frags +
THEBILLDOZERIf this game is by some miracle of god still alive in 5 years, I am very excited at the prospect of speaking with Old_Sanity and asking him about these threads
[quote=THEBILLDOZER]If this game is by some miracle of god still alive in 5 years, I am very excited at the prospect of speaking with Old_Sanity and asking him about these threads[/quote]
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#28
-19 Frags +

it's never too early to start vaping

it's never too early to start vaping
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#29
-3 Frags +

you are the future

you are the future
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#30
-2 Frags +
glassit's never too early to start vaping

quite the opposite for me. every time i went for a fag or now vaping id genuinely feel like im playing worse because id get more nerves in some situations

[quote=glass]it's never too early to start vaping[/quote]
quite the opposite for me. every time i went for a fag or now vaping id genuinely feel like im playing worse because id get more nerves in some situations
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