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Addressing Racism/Anti-LGBTQ Speech Off-Platform
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#31
TFNew
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comparing the b4nny/thalash beef to actual harassment and hate speech is a big yikes. na community is fucking wild lmao.

comparing the b4nny/thalash beef to actual harassment and hate speech is a big yikes. na community is fucking wild lmao.
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#32
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why did yall delete phoxx post who be running shit in here I just wanna talk

why did yall delete phoxx post who be running shit in here I just wanna talk
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#33
50 Frags +
JWBcomparing the b4nny/thalash beef to actual harassment and hate speech is a big yikes. na community is fucking wild lmao.

https://i.gyazo.com/2f9013832ddebc7a27e3daab8f54c36b.gif

[quote=JWB]comparing the b4nny/thalash beef to actual harassment and hate speech is a big yikes. na community is fucking wild lmao.[/quote]
[img]https://i.gyazo.com/2f9013832ddebc7a27e3daab8f54c36b.gif[/img]
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#34
30 Frags +

the biggest counterargument I see is people complaining that they should be allowed to say what they want to say because they are entitled to say it. When asked about the consequence of it making people feel hurt or discriminated against, they just say those people are pussies and should deal with it.

Speaking from experience as an Indian person in this community I have experienced racial slurs directed at me, maliciously pretty much once every 2 or 3 weeks. Do I get hurt about them enough to go and report people, no? But that doesn't mean it didn't initially become something that in ESEA hurt me and that I had to build up a tolerance to because there was no other way to deal with it.

Ive never made reports on that basis, mostly because I'm lazy and desensitized to it so I don't care enough, but I have friends who care about me and want to report stuff like that so they do,

As much as you say you want to be able to say racial slurs and it's your right, Why is it your right that others should be expected to take that pain, and have nothing they can do about it? Just because I wouldn't report it doesn't mean that someone shouldn't have the option to report something and expect action.

RGL generally works on a reporting system. A lot of times they don't reveal the "whistleblower" because of the social impact. like was said before, this community is small. Someone should not get ostracized for wanting someone who directed a racial slur at them to be punished. If you got banned for using a racial slur it's because you hurt someone enough that they reported you to rgl not because you said the gamer word to your friends, Of course, I'm not saying RGL is perfect but it is definitely nice knowing that I at least have the option that I didn't have in esea.

the biggest counterargument I see is people complaining that they should be allowed to say what they want to say because they are entitled to say it. When asked about the consequence of it making people feel hurt or discriminated against, they just say those people are pussies and should deal with it.

Speaking from experience as an Indian person in this community I have experienced racial slurs directed at me, maliciously pretty much once every 2 or 3 weeks. Do I get hurt about them enough to go and report people, no? But that doesn't mean it didn't initially become something that in ESEA hurt me and that I had to build up a tolerance to because there was no other way to deal with it.

Ive never made reports on that basis, mostly because I'm lazy and desensitized to it so I don't care enough, but I have friends who care about me and want to report stuff like that so they do,

As much as you say you want to be able to say racial slurs and it's your right, Why is it your right that others should be expected to take that pain, and have nothing they can do about it? Just because I wouldn't report it doesn't mean that someone shouldn't have the option to report something and expect action.

RGL generally works on a reporting system. A lot of times they don't reveal the "whistleblower" because of the social impact. like was said before, this community is small. Someone should not get ostracized for wanting someone who directed a racial slur at them to be punished. If you got banned for using a racial slur it's because you hurt someone enough that they reported you to rgl not because you said the gamer word to your friends, Of course, I'm not saying RGL is perfect but it is definitely nice knowing that I at least have the option that I didn't have in esea.
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#35
34 Frags +

Why is it so hard to be nice to other people?

Why is it so hard to be nice to other people?
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#36
-3 Frags +

ay blud stop watching me i aint even wearing my bling and I got guys clocking me

ay blud stop watching me i aint even wearing my bling and I got guys clocking me
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#37
-9 Frags +

if only rgl spend one tenth of their time going after nonces they do going after nono word boiis. It's embarrassing straight white people force gay people to not say gay or fag or disallow african americans to be talking informal amongst each other so they can score points for being an "ally".

Also they say they only go after people who get reported but we have had an rgl admin who scraped the logs to find an excuse to ban people, whats stopping them from doing that again and again

G-d bless Aoshi, toxic brits, autistic germans, retarded dutch "people" and the Russians for keeping Etf2L real.

if only rgl spend one tenth of their time going after nonces they do going after nono word boiis. It's embarrassing straight white people force gay people to not say gay or fag or disallow african americans to be talking informal amongst each other so they can score points for being an "ally".

Also they say they only go after people who get reported but we have had an rgl admin who scraped the logs to find an excuse to ban people, whats stopping them from doing that again and again

G-d bless Aoshi, toxic brits, autistic germans, retarded dutch "people" and the Russians for keeping Etf2L real.
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#38
11 Frags +
irei need my emotional support slurs!

mate it's an outright witch hunt, nobody is buying this "do you need to say the evil words" stuff, shit like this is just an excuse to ban players they personally don't like while they give a pass to untold amounts of shady shit when it's people they do like
NA TF2 is fucking bonkers right now

sacG-d bless Aoshi, toxic brits, autistic germans, retarded dutch "people" and the Russians for keeping Etf2L real.

keep TF2 retarded and autistic :pray:

[quote=ire]i need my emotional support slurs![/quote]
mate it's an outright witch hunt, nobody is buying this "do you need to say the evil words" stuff, shit like this is just an excuse to ban players they personally don't like while they give a pass to untold amounts of shady shit when it's people they do like
NA TF2 is fucking bonkers right now

[quote=sac]G-d bless Aoshi, toxic brits, autistic germans, retarded dutch "people" and the Russians for keeping Etf2L real.[/quote]
keep TF2 retarded and autistic :pray:
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#39
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Obviously you shouldn't be allowed to direct slurs at people, but I get the backlash this is getting. I do not trust RGL to enforce this equally among all players. The fact that any post they make about their ruleset gets so much backlash speaks volumes about the organization itself. Any other organization makes a post like this and its not even worth talking about. They're that bias.

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to clarify, rule good, admin bad
Obviously you shouldn't be allowed to direct slurs at people, but I get the backlash this is getting. I do not trust RGL to enforce this equally among all players. The fact that any post they make about their ruleset gets so much backlash speaks volumes about the organization itself. Any other organization makes a post like this and its not even worth talking about. They're that bias.

[spoiler]to clarify, rule good, admin bad[/spoiler]
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#40
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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387764227965976579/800440722674417714/meme.png

[img]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/387764227965976579/800440722674417714/meme.png[/img]
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#41
1 Frags +

i am going to play with tape over my mouth

i am going to play with tape over my mouth
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#42
newbie.tf
35 Frags +

if you're affected by these rules, you should take the two weeks off to reevaluate how you treat other people ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

general dislike for rgl admining aside, this is an obvious move forward

if you're affected by these rules, you should take the two weeks off to reevaluate how you treat other people ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

general dislike for rgl admining aside, this is an obvious move forward
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#43
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@RGL admins, you are a disappointment to your parents, i just want to pat your dads on the back and tell them that it will all be all right, knowing well that it really won't be, very sad.

@RGL admins, you are a disappointment to your parents, i just want to pat your dads on the back and tell them that it will all be all right, knowing well that it really won't be, very sad.
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#44
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Adnurakirei need my emotional support slurs!mate it's an outright witch hunt, nobody is buying this "do you need to say the evil words" stuff, shit like this is just an excuse to ban players they personally don't like while they give a pass to untold amounts of shady shit when it's people they do like

you got the receipts, or?

[quote=Adnurak][quote=ire]i need my emotional support slurs![/quote]
mate it's an outright witch hunt, nobody is buying this "do you need to say the evil words" stuff, shit like this is just an excuse to ban players they personally don't like while they give a pass to untold amounts of shady shit when it's people they do like[/quote]

you got the receipts, or?
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#45
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if this becomes rgl policy the only way to bring balance to the universe is to ban b4nny as well

if this becomes rgl policy the only way to bring balance to the universe is to ban b4nny as well
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#46
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this isn't even a dont ever say the word rule. it's just a dont be a jackass rule. it's not that deep

this isn't even a dont ever say the word rule. it's just a dont be a jackass rule. it's not that deep
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#47
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if you mind being monitored 24/7 on every media, you're a criminal and obivously got something to hide.

if you mind being monitored 24/7 on every media, you're a criminal and obivously got something to hide.
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#48
27 Frags +

https://i.imgur.com/gLAA2OY.png

https://i.imgur.com/gLAA2OY.png
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#49
27 Frags +

if a gamer says a slur in a forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?

if a gamer says a slur in a forest and no one hears it, does it make a sound?
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