im just tired of cutting forever man, also i look small af in a shirt when doing it, on the other hand when im bulking i cant lift up my shirt pretending its hot so i can show my abs
what do you think guys
are steroids worth it ?
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im just tired of cutting forever man, also i look small af in a shirt when doing it, on the other hand when im bulking i cant lift up my shirt pretending its hot so i can show my abs
what do you think guys
what do you think guys
steroids are never worth it bro, you can bulk and keep ur abs btw, idk how old you are but i've been trying to gain wait, i've been eating really healthy, just a lot, and i've been able to add pounds of muscle and keep my abs. I also use creatine and feel it helps but my mom thinks that's bad for me so idk lol
steroids are never worth it bro, you can bulk and keep ur abs btw, idk how old you are but i've been trying to gain wait, i've been eating really healthy, just a lot, and i've been able to add pounds of muscle and keep my abs. I also use creatine and feel it helps but my mom thinks that's bad for me so idk lol
If you wanna shrink your ballsack and have health issues after 40 sure
If you wanna shrink your ballsack and have health issues after 40 sure
dunno how much steroids cost, but maybe you should spend money on a nutritionist and a trainer instead, so you can bulk up in an actual healthy way. just know that maintaining that physique is going to be harder than obtaining it.
dunno how much steroids cost, but maybe you should spend money on a nutritionist and a trainer instead, so you can bulk up in an actual healthy way. just know that maintaining that physique is going to be harder than obtaining it.
alfaIf you wanna shrink your ballsack and have health issues after 40 sure
lmao if you think that ur gonna die if you use roids, arnold is 70 something and still banging bitches
[quote=alfa]If you wanna shrink your ballsack and have health issues after 40 sure[/quote]
lmao if you think that ur gonna die if you use roids, arnold is 70 something and still banging bitches
lmao if you think that ur gonna die if you use roids, arnold is 70 something and still banging bitches
nikoalfaIf you wanna shrink your ballsack and have health issues after 40 surelmao if you think that ur gonna die if you use roids, arnold is 70 something and still banging bitches
lebron james also definitely uses roids, look at that man. Still, there are plenty of examples where ppl who used gear ended up getting wrecked later in life.
[quote=niko][quote=alfa]If you wanna shrink your ballsack and have health issues after 40 sure[/quote]
lmao if you think that ur gonna die if you use roids, arnold is 70 something and still banging bitches[/quote]
lebron james also definitely uses roids, look at that man. Still, there are plenty of examples where ppl who used gear ended up getting wrecked later in life.
lmao if you think that ur gonna die if you use roids, arnold is 70 something and still banging bitches[/quote]
lebron james also definitely uses roids, look at that man. Still, there are plenty of examples where ppl who used gear ended up getting wrecked later in life.
One of our family members died from his steroid use. I don't know specifics because I was a kid. However, he did use steroids a lot.
One of our family members died from his steroid use. I don't know specifics because I was a kid. However, he did use steroids a lot.
only worth if your livelihood depends on it. ie professional model and/or professional athlete.
only worth if your livelihood depends on it. ie professional model and/or professional athlete.
Steroids will fuck you up emotionally and physically. They will cause hormonal changes, mood swings, etc. You could end up being basically a different person when using them. It's okay to want to be fit, but it's a lot like improving at TF2 or any skill where you have to grind it out and build up to your goal.
Please don't do this to yourself.
Steroids will fuck you up emotionally and physically. They will cause hormonal changes, mood swings, etc. You could end up being basically a different person when using them. It's okay to want to be fit, but it's a lot like improving at TF2 or any skill where you have to grind it out and build up to your goal.
Please don't do this to yourself.
Please don't do this to yourself.
nikoalfaIf you wanna shrink your ballsack and have health issues after 40 surelmao if you think that ur gonna die if you use roids, arnold is 70 something and still banging bitches
Never did I say die, but if you wanna become bald, get kidney/liver issues, increased cancer risk and high blood pressure go for it
And yea sure arnold is one example, do some research and see how many others get their lives absolutely destroyed by getting cancer or a heart attack in their later years. None of it is ever a guarantee but a huge risk for legit 0 reason.
[quote=niko][quote=alfa]If you wanna shrink your ballsack and have health issues after 40 sure[/quote]
lmao if you think that ur gonna die if you use roids, arnold is 70 something and still banging bitches[/quote]
Never did I say die, but if you wanna become bald, get kidney/liver issues, increased cancer risk and high blood pressure go for it
And yea sure arnold is one example, do some research and see how many others get their lives absolutely destroyed by getting cancer or a heart attack in their later years. None of it is ever a guarantee but a huge risk for legit 0 reason.
lmao if you think that ur gonna die if you use roids, arnold is 70 something and still banging bitches[/quote]
Never did I say die, but if you wanna become bald, get kidney/liver issues, increased cancer risk and high blood pressure go for it
And yea sure arnold is one example, do some research and see how many others get their lives absolutely destroyed by getting cancer or a heart attack in their later years. None of it is ever a guarantee but a huge risk for legit 0 reason.
Are you an actor or star athlete with access to the best trainers and doctors who can monitor your progress so you bulk up as safely as possible?
No?
Then don't.
Are you an actor or star athlete with access to the best trainers and doctors who can monitor your progress so you bulk up as safely as possible?
No?
Then don't.
No?
Then don't.
By staying natural, you:
Will never have an impressive physique. You will always be shredded-DYL or Big-Fat. Unless you have a ridiculously good frame, you will never look like you lift in a shirt.
Your test levels will be much lower than test users, therefore, putting you on a disadvantage in the dating scene, especially if you're in your 20's. You will never be sexier and fuck better than a juicer.
Your general well-being will be much lower than juicers. Higher test = better mood = more productive = happier life.
Even if you make impressive natty gains, you will lose most of them by the time you reach 30 as your test levels will start dropping
By staying natural, you:
Will never have an impressive physique. You will always be shredded-DYL or Big-Fat. Unless you have a ridiculously good frame, you will never look like you lift in a shirt.
Your test levels will be much lower than test users, therefore, putting you on a disadvantage in the dating scene, especially if you're in your 20's. You will never be sexier and fuck better than a juicer.
Your general well-being will be much lower than juicers. Higher test = better mood = more productive = happier life.
Even if you make impressive natty gains, you will lose most of them by the time you reach 30 as your test levels will start dropping
Will never have an impressive physique. You will always be shredded-DYL or Big-Fat. Unless you have a ridiculously good frame, you will never look like you lift in a shirt.
Your test levels will be much lower than test users, therefore, putting you on a disadvantage in the dating scene, especially if you're in your 20's. You will never be sexier and fuck better than a juicer.
Your general well-being will be much lower than juicers. Higher test = better mood = more productive = happier life.
Even if you make impressive natty gains, you will lose most of them by the time you reach 30 as your test levels will start dropping
niko Even if you make impressive natty gains, you will lose most of them by the time you reach 30 as your test levels will start dropping
Depends, i personally believe if you dedicate yourself to the sport or any physical activity in general (longterm), i doubt it that your test levels will drop right after you hit 30, if anything your test levels will lower with time. You have to understand most men who participate in the studies are people who do not exercise regurly or have a shitty diet. You are also looking at juicing from a short-term perspective, roids will surely help you to make gains and maintain low body-fat levels, but after your cycle you will lose most of the muscle and gain back the fat, assuming you are planning on doing only 1 cycle.
In my opinion, regarding building your body, there are enough things to be concerned about (quality of diet, quality of sleep, avoiding alcohol etc.), taking steroids will only cause more problems like: shortening your lifespan, gyno, acne, baldness, high bloodpressure and more. Also the compounds themselves you would be injecting, you cant be always 100% sure that they are clean, people literally make steroids in their microvawe in their basement, doesnt sound very safe to me.
niko Your test levels will be much lower than test users, therefore, putting you on a disadvantage in the dating scene, especially if you're in your 20's. You will never be sexier and fuck better than a juicer.
Sure, if a quick fuck is worth shortening your life span to you, go ahead.
niko Will never have an impressive physique. You will always be shredded-DYL or Big-Fat. Unless you have a ridiculously good frame, you will never look like you lift in a shirt.
This is what saddens me about natties today, they try to impress people way too hard and compare themselves to steroid users, just do it for yourself, chase a goal that is NATURALLY achievable, compare yourself only with yourself. Bodybuilding isnt a financially lucrative sport anyway, so isnt powerlifting, strongman or weightlifting, so taking steroids in order to earn some money from competetitious is defo not worth it.
EDIT: check out natural hypertrophy on youtube for some quality content, the guy is fucking swole and helps people to stay on the natty path, consider giving him a watch before you hop on anything.
[quote=niko] Even if you make impressive natty gains, you will lose most of them by the time you reach 30 as your test levels will start dropping[/quote]
Depends, i personally believe if you dedicate yourself to the sport or any physical activity in general (longterm), i doubt it that your test levels will drop right after you hit 30, if anything your test levels will lower with time. You have to understand most men who participate in the studies are people who do not exercise regurly or have a shitty diet. You are also looking at juicing from a short-term perspective, roids will surely help you to make gains and maintain low body-fat levels, but after your cycle you will lose most of the muscle and gain back the fat, assuming you are planning on doing only 1 cycle.
In my opinion, regarding building your body, there are enough things to be concerned about (quality of diet, quality of sleep, avoiding alcohol etc.), taking steroids will only cause more problems like: shortening your lifespan, gyno, acne, baldness, high bloodpressure and more. Also the compounds themselves you would be injecting, you cant be always 100% sure that they are clean, people literally make steroids in their microvawe in their basement, doesnt sound very safe to me.
[quote=niko] Your test levels will be much lower than test users, therefore, putting you on a disadvantage in the dating scene, especially if you're in your 20's. You will never be sexier and fuck better than a juicer. [/quote] Sure, if a quick fuck is worth shortening your life span to you, go ahead.
[quote=niko] Will never have an impressive physique. You will always be shredded-DYL or Big-Fat. Unless you have a ridiculously good frame, you will never look like you lift in a shirt.[/quote] This is what saddens me about natties today, they try to impress people way too hard and compare themselves to steroid users, just do it for yourself, chase a goal that is NATURALLY achievable, compare yourself only with yourself. Bodybuilding isnt a financially lucrative sport anyway, so isnt powerlifting, strongman or weightlifting, so taking steroids in order to earn some money from competetitious is defo not worth it.
EDIT: check out natural hypertrophy on youtube for some quality content, the guy is fucking swole and helps people to stay on the natty path, consider giving him a watch before you hop on anything.
Depends, i personally believe if you dedicate yourself to the sport or any physical activity in general (longterm), i doubt it that your test levels will drop right after you hit 30, if anything your test levels will lower with time. You have to understand most men who participate in the studies are people who do not exercise regurly or have a shitty diet. You are also looking at juicing from a short-term perspective, roids will surely help you to make gains and maintain low body-fat levels, but after your cycle you will lose most of the muscle and gain back the fat, assuming you are planning on doing only 1 cycle.
In my opinion, regarding building your body, there are enough things to be concerned about (quality of diet, quality of sleep, avoiding alcohol etc.), taking steroids will only cause more problems like: shortening your lifespan, gyno, acne, baldness, high bloodpressure and more. Also the compounds themselves you would be injecting, you cant be always 100% sure that they are clean, people literally make steroids in their microvawe in their basement, doesnt sound very safe to me.
[quote=niko] Your test levels will be much lower than test users, therefore, putting you on a disadvantage in the dating scene, especially if you're in your 20's. You will never be sexier and fuck better than a juicer. [/quote] Sure, if a quick fuck is worth shortening your life span to you, go ahead.
[quote=niko] Will never have an impressive physique. You will always be shredded-DYL or Big-Fat. Unless you have a ridiculously good frame, you will never look like you lift in a shirt.[/quote] This is what saddens me about natties today, they try to impress people way too hard and compare themselves to steroid users, just do it for yourself, chase a goal that is NATURALLY achievable, compare yourself only with yourself. Bodybuilding isnt a financially lucrative sport anyway, so isnt powerlifting, strongman or weightlifting, so taking steroids in order to earn some money from competetitious is defo not worth it.
EDIT: check out natural hypertrophy on youtube for some quality content, the guy is fucking swole and helps people to stay on the natty path, consider giving him a watch before you hop on anything.
nikoshould i use steroids
repliesno
nikonah they sound sick and youre a retard if youre natty
what is the point of this thread
[quote=niko]should i use steroids[/quote]
[quote=replies]no[/quote]
[quote=niko]nah they sound sick and youre a retard if youre natty[/quote]
what is the point of this thread
[quote=replies]no[/quote]
[quote=niko]nah they sound sick and youre a retard if youre natty[/quote]
what is the point of this thread
don't lose your natty card bro... zyzz is the brah, but he'd rather see you live long and healthy than die young and miss the mires and gains
don't lose your natty card bro... zyzz is the brah, but he'd rather see you live long and healthy than die young and miss the mires and gains
bro it kinda seems like your just losing motivation to keep going. gettin swole is a process and you just wanna get there quicker.
bro it kinda seems like your just losing motivation to keep going. gettin swole is a process and you just wanna get there quicker.
yea ima need to physique check you man, you have that "ive been lifting for 5 months why arent I huge yet" mentality
yea ima need to physique check you man, you have that "ive been lifting for 5 months why arent I huge yet" mentality
aboOod just know that maintaining that physique is going to be harder than obtaining it.
no it's the opposite actually
TF_D4nnylebron james also definitely uses roids, look at that man. Still, there are plenty of examples where ppl who used gear ended up getting wrecked later in life.
100% of people who depend on their bodies to make a living are on steroids (models, athletes, instagram whores, youtube fitness scammers, certain types of actors etc)
[quote=aboOod] just know that maintaining that physique is going to be harder than obtaining it.[/quote]
no it's the opposite actually
[quote=TF_D4nny]
lebron james also definitely uses roids, look at that man. Still, there are plenty of examples where ppl who used gear ended up getting wrecked later in life.[/quote]
100% of people who depend on their bodies to make a living are on steroids (models, athletes, instagram whores, youtube fitness scammers, certain types of actors etc)
no it's the opposite actually
[quote=TF_D4nny]
lebron james also definitely uses roids, look at that man. Still, there are plenty of examples where ppl who used gear ended up getting wrecked later in life.[/quote]
100% of people who depend on their bodies to make a living are on steroids (models, athletes, instagram whores, youtube fitness scammers, certain types of actors etc)
Consult the brofessor
Consult the brofessor
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_44xEEDjU[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD_44xEEDjU[/youtube]
TF_D4nnylebron james also definitely uses roids, look at that man. Still, there are plenty of examples where ppl who used gear ended up getting wrecked later in life.
100% of people who depend on their bodies to make a living are on steroids (models, athletes, instagram whores, youtube fitness scammers, certain types of actors etc)[/quote]
I know this is such a weird place to talk about this, I live in LA and im a huge laker fan, I used to love basketball and I was so baffled at how some players would play, these days I dont like the league as much because it's nearly all reliant on athleticism and roids. Lebron got a tumor removed from his mouth in the late 2000's (A sign of HGH use) and it was literally swept under the rug so hard. Countless NBA players have tested positive for HGH use with little to no punishment. Sure it makes the sport more entertaining but it's really really sad to see.
Lebron tumor source: https://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=4226010
[quote=TF_D4nny]
lebron james also definitely uses roids, look at that man. Still, there are plenty of examples where ppl who used gear ended up getting wrecked later in life.[/quote]
100% of people who depend on their bodies to make a living are on steroids (models, athletes, instagram whores, youtube fitness scammers, certain types of actors etc)[/quote]
I know this is such a weird place to talk about this, I live in LA and im a huge laker fan, I used to love basketball and I was so baffled at how some players would play, these days I dont like the league as much because it's nearly all reliant on athleticism and roids. Lebron got a tumor removed from his mouth in the late 2000's (A sign of HGH use) and it was literally swept under the rug so hard. Countless NBA players have tested positive for HGH use with little to no punishment. Sure it makes the sport more entertaining but it's really really sad to see.
Lebron tumor source: https://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=4226010
lebron james also definitely uses roids, look at that man. Still, there are plenty of examples where ppl who used gear ended up getting wrecked later in life.[/quote]
100% of people who depend on their bodies to make a living are on steroids (models, athletes, instagram whores, youtube fitness scammers, certain types of actors etc)[/quote]
I know this is such a weird place to talk about this, I live in LA and im a huge laker fan, I used to love basketball and I was so baffled at how some players would play, these days I dont like the league as much because it's nearly all reliant on athleticism and roids. Lebron got a tumor removed from his mouth in the late 2000's (A sign of HGH use) and it was literally swept under the rug so hard. Countless NBA players have tested positive for HGH use with little to no punishment. Sure it makes the sport more entertaining but it's really really sad to see.
Lebron tumor source: https://www.espn.com/nba/news/story?id=4226010
illyahttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389686219124113408/832349957633474560/image0.jpg
doesnt mean anything but this guy is on actually on tren now lol
just thought it was a funny little coincidence to see him on tftv
[quote=illya]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389686219124113408/832349957633474560/image0.jpg[/quote]
doesnt mean anything but this guy is on actually on tren now lol
just thought it was a funny little coincidence to see him on tftv
doesnt mean anything but this guy is on actually on tren now lol
just thought it was a funny little coincidence to see him on tftv
unless you want to end up infertile and with man boobs i'd stay away
unless you want to end up infertile and with man boobs i'd stay away
as far as i can tell you can manage many of the side effects of steroids (balding, impotence) with more drugs and treatments, which in the long run will take a toll on most bodies
as far as i can tell you can manage many of the side effects of steroids (balding, impotence) with more drugs and treatments, which in the long run will take a toll on most bodies
denisbit13illyahttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389686219124113408/832349957633474560/image0.jpgdoesnt mean anything but this guy is on actually on tren now lol
just thought it was a funny little coincidence to see him on tftv
LMAO i follow this dude too shoutout peter
but yeah ive thought of going on just one cycle and the cons outweigh the benefits
[quote=denisbit13][quote=illya]https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/389686219124113408/832349957633474560/image0.jpg[/quote]
doesnt mean anything but this guy is on actually on tren now lol
just thought it was a funny little coincidence to see him on tftv[/quote]
LMAO i follow this dude too shoutout peter
but yeah ive thought of going on just one cycle and the cons outweigh the benefits
doesnt mean anything but this guy is on actually on tren now lol
just thought it was a funny little coincidence to see him on tftv[/quote]
LMAO i follow this dude too shoutout peter
but yeah ive thought of going on just one cycle and the cons outweigh the benefits
nikoYour test levels will be much lower than test users, therefore, putting you on a disadvantage in the dating scene, especially if you're in your 20's. You will never be sexier and fuck better than a juicer.
pure delusion. see
[quote=niko]Your test levels will be much lower than test users, therefore, putting you on a disadvantage in the dating scene, especially if you're in your 20's. You will never be sexier and fuck better than a juicer.[/quote]
pure delusion. see
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1975ZkUEP5w[/youtube]
pure delusion. see
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1975ZkUEP5w[/youtube]
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