Instant decloak, knife stabs you in the face (but 100% of the time now) but if you use it you get VAC banned.
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How would you buff the spy?
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Instant decloak, knife stabs you in the face (but 100% of the time now) but if you use it you get VAC banned.
FactsMachineInstant decloak, knife stabs you in the face (but 100% of the time now) but if you use it you get VAC banned.
Good thing you can just make a new account every time you do it
[quote=FactsMachine]Instant decloak, knife stabs you in the face (but 100% of the time now) but if you use it you get VAC banned.[/quote]
Good thing you can just make a new account every time you do it
Good thing you can just make a new account every time you do it
Spy's perfectly fine in pubs and hl where it belongs. Despite being a filthy pyro main I'm not in the bandwagon that every class needs to be viable in 6s.
(that said the amby nerf could be reverted as it was only the old DR that made it kind of stupid. new DR is ok as it's punishable.)
Spy's perfectly fine in pubs and hl where it belongs. Despite being a filthy pyro main I'm not in the bandwagon that every class needs to be viable in 6s.
(that said the amby nerf could be reverted as it was only the old DR that made it kind of stupid. new DR is ok as it's punishable.)
(that said the amby nerf could be reverted as it was only the old DR that made it kind of stupid. new DR is ok as it's punishable.)
Spy does not need a buff in the essence of giving him more strengths. He can already be quite impactful, just not in every situation. He is a support class that is supposed to turns things in your favour. But in 6v6, it can be pretty difficult to land a backstab on somebody because the enemy team is not always distracted when a Spy pick could be helpful.
You could give him ways to distract the enemy team without relying on his team; decoys could be cool. However, people may find that unfun to play against. Still would be cool to see if it works or not though.
I think the easiest buff spy could have is to decrease the time it takes to cloak in and out. So escaping is easier, and timing your decloaks is more effecient. Added with a 'Silent Killer' stats being put on all knives.
A more ambitious idea I have is being able to actually 'mimic' other classes, instead of only looking like them. For example, you could disguise as a Soldier and actually do everything a Soldier can, without actually doing anything substantial like damage and frags.
To what point you can 'mimiç' is up for debate, would you be able to rocket jump too? Or only shoot out projectiles?
Anyway, I think Spy is in an okay spot right now. But the Spy could definitely have a couple of decent buffs that also do not make him into a very oppressive class.
Spy does not need a buff in the essence of giving him more strengths. He can already be quite impactful, just not in every situation. He is a support class that is supposed to turns things in your favour. But in 6v6, it can be pretty difficult to land a backstab on somebody because the enemy team is not always distracted when a Spy pick could be helpful.
You could give him ways to distract the enemy team without relying on his team; decoys could be cool. However, people may find that unfun to play against. Still would be cool to see if it works or not though.
I think the easiest buff spy could have is to decrease the time it takes to cloak in and out. So escaping is easier, and timing your decloaks is more effecient. Added with a 'Silent Killer' stats being put on all knives.
A more ambitious idea I have is being able to actually 'mimic' other classes, instead of only looking like them. For example, you could disguise as a Soldier and actually do everything a Soldier can, without actually doing anything substantial like damage and frags.
To what point you can 'mimiç' is up for debate, would you be able to rocket jump too? Or only shoot out projectiles?
Anyway, I think Spy is in an okay spot right now. But the Spy could definitely have a couple of decent buffs that also do not make him into a very oppressive class.
You could give him ways to distract the enemy team without relying on his team; decoys could be cool. However, people may find that unfun to play against. Still would be cool to see if it works or not though.
I think the easiest buff spy could have is to decrease the time it takes to cloak in and out. So escaping is easier, and timing your decloaks is more effecient. Added with a 'Silent Killer' stats being put on all knives.
A more ambitious idea I have is being able to actually 'mimic' other classes, instead of only looking like them. For example, you could disguise as a Soldier and actually do everything a Soldier can, without actually doing anything substantial like damage and frags.
To what point you can 'mimiç' is up for debate, would you be able to rocket jump too? Or only shoot out projectiles?
Anyway, I think Spy is in an okay spot right now. But the Spy could definitely have a couple of decent buffs that also do not make him into a very oppressive class.
Backstabbing is a dumb gimmick that's gone too far. It's not something you can rely on for any strats. Buffing spy would make the game worse and more random because you'd experience more of that gimmick.
You'd probably need to rework the spy entirely to remove backstabbing and add some other mechanic. People who play spy probably wouldn't like that.
Backstabbing is a dumb gimmick that's gone too far. It's not something you can rely on for any strats. Buffing spy would make the game worse and more random because you'd experience more of that gimmick.
You'd probably need to rework the spy entirely to remove backstabbing and add some other mechanic. People who play spy probably wouldn't like that.
You'd probably need to rework the spy entirely to remove backstabbing and add some other mechanic. People who play spy probably wouldn't like that.
scrambledBackstabbing is a dumb gimmick that's gone too far. It's not something you can rely on for any strats. Buffing spy would make the game worse and more random because you'd experience more of that gimmick.
You'd probably need to rework the spy entirely to remove backstabbing and add some other mechanic. People who play spy probably wouldn't like that.
This is the truth.
Buff the revolvers and remove the backstab mechanic entirely. Being able to go invisible + flank and pick people off with the revolver is perfectly viable.
[quote=scrambled]Backstabbing is a dumb gimmick that's gone too far. It's not something you can rely on for any strats. Buffing spy would make the game worse and more random because you'd experience more of that gimmick.
You'd probably need to rework the spy entirely to remove backstabbing and add some other mechanic. People who play spy probably wouldn't like that.[/quote]
This is the truth.
Buff the revolvers and remove the backstab mechanic entirely. Being able to go invisible + flank and pick people off with the revolver is perfectly viable.
You'd probably need to rework the spy entirely to remove backstabbing and add some other mechanic. People who play spy probably wouldn't like that.[/quote]
This is the truth.
Buff the revolvers and remove the backstab mechanic entirely. Being able to go invisible + flank and pick people off with the revolver is perfectly viable.
zxpMake spy 30 cm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGU5l26DjLM
(trinta = 30 for the non-portuguese)
[quote=zxp]Make spy 30 cm.[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGU5l26DjLM
(trinta = 30 for the non-portuguese)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGU5l26DjLM
(trinta = 30 for the non-portuguese)
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