I wanna start competitive tf2, I have 1400 hours in tf2 and like tournaments and wanna try it. but don't know where to start I've heard about scrims but don't know how i should start. just looking for advice on this, thanks
RGL.gg is a good place to start, the discord is a good place for finding lower level teams to start out on, or finding other players if you wanna start your own
tf2center is probably the easiest way to actually play a 6v6 as a low level player without being on a team, but you could also try adding up to pugs in the tf2 coaching center discord, which is also a good beginner resource
https://discord.gg/tf2-coaching-central-tf2cc-727627956058325052
tf2center is probably the easiest way to actually play a 6v6 as a low level player without being on a team, but you could also try adding up to pugs in the tf2 coaching center discord, which is also a good beginner resource
https://discord.gg/tf2-coaching-central-tf2cc-727627956058325052
If you prefer a more structured intro to 6s you should definitely try out Newbie Mixes https://discord.gg/9H8xDmTvqY if you're in NA. They run beginner friendly mixes every Friday evening with live coaching and will teach you the basics.
Introduction
Competitive TF2, like any sport has two main parts. Formal play, competing in a league against teams with your very own and informal play which include PUGs (Pick Up Games). You can think of informal play as sparring or playing ball at a community centre. It's meant to be lower stress, with lower stakes and a different configuration of rules. Many people participate in more informal play because there is a lower commitment.
The two main spheres of interaction are league play and PUGs. For North America, the main league that people play is RGL (Recharge Gaming League). I recommend you play in RGL if you want to actually play on a team. PUGs nowadays are relegated to discord servers, some more public than others. I will provide some recommend places for you.
There are many different competitive formats but by far the most popular in order are: 6's (6v6) and Highlander (9v9). For 6's, you may have seen that the primary roster of classes is 2 scouts, 2 soldiers, 1 demo and 1 medic. 5CP and KOTH are the primary game modes. Specialists or "off-classes" are used in more specific scenarios that are more befitting. I.e, engineer for defending last point, pyro for stuffing ubers or breaking certain holds and sniper for getting a pick. Highlander forces representation for all classes and use KOTH, Payload and Attack / Defend as its game modes. My recommendation is that you play 6's, in my opinion it's much more fun, has less moving parts on the surface, there are more resources to help you and will give you a more calm room to learn fundamentals. Judging by your gravitation towards Demoman and Soldier this shouldn't be too much of an issue. Highlander can be fun but I think 6's is better for beginners.
Practical Advice
First, play Newbie Mixes on Fridays 9 PM EST. They run games that have coaches sit in to teach you the game. The pace is slower, more strict and they pause after every round to go over what went right or wrong. Since they sit in, they can also provide you feedback on your communication.
Next, since Newbie Mixes is only on Fridays you may want to play more PUGs or just games at different times. You should start with TF2 Coaching Central; then branch out from there.
If you enjoy playing 6's and want to get on a team, you should sign up for the Newbie Mixes Team Drive. They manually matchmake other players into a 6's team for RGL so that you can participate in league play alongside a coach to guide you. The current RGL season is half-way in so the Team Drive will probably start around late spring. This is an 8 (and potentially more if you make playoffs) week long commitment where you will have one official match-game on Wednesdays and scrims throughout the week. If you want to be part of a team with less commitment you can signup as a substitute player who fills in when the main starter is unable to.
Outside of the program, finding a team is a process of talking to other people or responding to LFT / LFP posts in the RGL discord.
TF2CC also hosts the Newbie Cup 2-3 times a year. This is an internal event where they in a similar vein, manually match make you into a team with a coach. You train for 3-4 weeks and then play official matches over the following weekend. There are other events that you can engage in but they don't realistically come by that often.
I hope this is useful and you become a familiar face around the scene. Cheers.
Competitive TF2, like any sport has two main parts. Formal play, competing in a league against teams with your very own and informal play which include PUGs (Pick Up Games). You can think of informal play as sparring or playing ball at a community centre. It's meant to be lower stress, with lower stakes and a different configuration of rules. Many people participate in more informal play because there is a lower commitment.
The two main spheres of interaction are league play and PUGs. For North America, the main league that people play is RGL (Recharge Gaming League). I recommend you play in RGL if you want to actually play on a team. PUGs nowadays are relegated to discord servers, some more public than others. I will provide some recommend places for you.
There are many different competitive formats but by far the most popular in order are: 6's (6v6) and Highlander (9v9). For 6's, you may have seen that the primary roster of classes is 2 scouts, 2 soldiers, 1 demo and 1 medic. 5CP and KOTH are the primary game modes. Specialists or "off-classes" are used in more specific scenarios that are more befitting. I.e, engineer for defending last point, pyro for stuffing ubers or breaking certain holds and sniper for getting a pick. Highlander forces representation for all classes and use KOTH, Payload and Attack / Defend as its game modes. My recommendation is that you play 6's, in my opinion it's much more fun, has less moving parts on the surface, there are more resources to help you and will give you a more calm room to learn fundamentals. Judging by your gravitation towards Demoman and Soldier this shouldn't be too much of an issue. Highlander can be fun but I think 6's is better for beginners.
[h]Practical Advice[/h]
First, play [url=https://discord.gg/kDbW95FvUn]Newbie Mixes[/url] on Fridays 9 PM EST. They run games that have coaches sit in to teach you the game. The pace is slower, more strict and they pause after every round to go over what went right or wrong. Since they sit in, they can also provide you feedback on your communication.
Next, since Newbie Mixes is only on Fridays you may want to play more PUGs or just games at different times. You should start with [url=https://discord.gg/tf2-coaching-central-tf2cc-727627956058325052]TF2 Coaching Central[/url]; then branch out from there.
If you enjoy playing 6's and want to get on a team, you should sign up for the Newbie Mixes Team Drive. They manually matchmake other players into a 6's team for RGL so that you can participate in league play alongside a coach to guide you. The current RGL season is half-way in so the Team Drive will probably start around late spring. This is an 8 (and potentially more if you make playoffs) week long commitment where you will have one official match-game on Wednesdays and scrims throughout the week. If you want to be part of a team with less commitment you can signup as a substitute player who fills in when the main starter is unable to.
Outside of the program, finding a team is a process of talking to other people or responding to LFT / LFP posts in the RGL discord.
TF2CC also hosts the Newbie Cup 2-3 times a year. This is an internal event where they in a similar vein, manually match make you into a team with a coach. You train for 3-4 weeks and then play official matches over the following weekend. There are other events that you can engage in but they don't realistically come by that often.
I hope this is useful and you become a familiar face around the scene. Cheers.
Seinfeld tf2center is probably the easiest way to actually play a 6v6 as a low level player...
Tf2center is not a good place for beginners, it's mainly used for higher divisional players when they are bored and no other PUG space is running. It's closer to a daycare for weird uncles in thanksgiving than an actual space. The tolerance for being a bad or new player is significantly lower outside of a few great individuals (Fac, Kryso, Taylor, Kuzo etc.)
Tf2center is not a good place for beginners, it's mainly used for higher divisional players when they are bored and no other PUG space is running. It's closer to a daycare for weird uncles in thanksgiving than an actual space. The tolerance for being a bad or new player is significantly lower outside of a few great individuals (Fac, Kryso, Taylor, Kuzo etc.)
NoNoeWaySeinfeld tf2center is probably the easiest way to actually play a 6v6 as a low level player...It's closer to a daycare for weird uncles
It's closer to a daycare for weird uncles[/quote]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBtrQ0GJSV0
play newbie mixes ofc
watching streams or vods of ppl playing 6s (at any skill level really) is a good way to get a sense of what the game is usually like, and continue to get ideas for new plays/better positioning. lots of the top tf2 twitch streams from like 930-1130est will be people playing 6s at various skill levels. if you have particular players u like there's youtube channels that upload old vods from lots of top players, easy to find if you just search the players name
if you have a good idea of what class you want to play theres also plenty of good videos going over the basics (rollouts, positioning, plays, jobs, callouts etc) usually per map. some will be better/more updated than others but at a low level most advice is useful (just dont take everything u hear as permanent gospel obv)
best way to get experience just playing the game without committing to a team is to ring (play when a team has a player absent) or join a team as a substitute in Newcomer (or Amateur, depending on your skill/confidence). both can be done on the RGL discord (check/post in the "Recruitment and Scrims" channels)
if you feel stuck, lost, or cant figure out what youre doing wrong, having a mentor to ask questions/watch your game povs with is very helpful (can also be found in the RGL discord)
dont be afraid to ask dumb/smart/newbie questions to any more experienced players you know
watching streams or vods of ppl playing 6s (at any skill level really) is a good way to get a sense of what the game is usually like, and continue to get ideas for new plays/better positioning. lots of the top tf2 twitch streams from like 930-1130est will be people playing 6s at various skill levels. if you have particular players u like there's youtube channels that upload old vods from lots of top players, easy to find if you just search the players name
if you have a good idea of what class you want to play theres also plenty of good videos going over the basics (rollouts, positioning, plays, jobs, callouts etc) usually per map. some will be better/more updated than others but at a low level most advice is useful (just dont take everything u hear as permanent gospel obv)
best way to get experience just playing the game without committing to a team is to ring (play when a team has a player absent) or join a team as a substitute in Newcomer (or Amateur, depending on your skill/confidence). both can be done on the [url=https://discord.com/invite/rgl-gg-official-discord-137337002113761281]RGL discord[/url] (check/post in the "Recruitment and Scrims" channels)
if you feel stuck, lost, or cant figure out what youre doing wrong, having a mentor to ask questions/watch your game povs with is very helpful (can also be found in the RGL discord)
dont be afraid to ask dumb/smart/newbie questions to any more experienced players you know
NoNoeWaySeinfeld tf2center is probably the easiest way to actually play a 6v6 as a low level player...
Tf2center is not a good place for beginners, it's mainly used for higher divisional players when they are bored and no other PUG space is running. It's closer to a daycare for weird uncles in thanksgiving than an actual space. The tolerance for being a bad or new player is significantly lower outside of a few great individuals (Fac, Kryso, Taylor, Kuzo etc.)
The uncles part is so true it hurts.
Tf2center is not a good place for beginners, it's mainly used for higher divisional players when they are bored and no other PUG space is running. It's closer to a daycare for weird uncles in thanksgiving than an actual space. The tolerance for being a bad or new player is significantly lower outside of a few great individuals (Fac, Kryso, Taylor, Kuzo etc.)[/quote]
The uncles part is so true it hurts.
NoNoeWaySeinfeld tf2center is probably the easiest way to actually play a 6v6 as a low level player...
Tf2center is not a good place for beginners, it's mainly used for higher divisional players when they are bored and no other PUG space is running. It's closer to a daycare for weird uncles in thanksgiving than an actual space. The tolerance for being a bad or new player is significantly lower outside of a few great individuals (Fac, Kryso, Taylor, Kuzo etc.)
Fac is such a real one, great guy.
Tf2center is not a good place for beginners, it's mainly used for higher divisional players when they are bored and no other PUG space is running. It's closer to a daycare for weird uncles in thanksgiving than an actual space. The tolerance for being a bad or new player is significantly lower outside of a few great individuals (Fac, Kryso, Taylor, Kuzo etc.)[/quote]
Fac is such a real one, great guy.
DukeNukemI wanna start competitive tf2, I have 1400 hours in tf2 and like tournaments and wanna try it. but don't know where to start I've heard about scrims but don't know how i should start. just looking for advice on this, thanks
If you choose to try out some center, I try my best to keep people in line with being dickheads for no reason to newer players. I’m easy to find so you can always hmu if you need help with the site.
If you choose to try out some center, I try my best to keep people in line with being dickheads for no reason to newer players. I’m easy to find so you can always hmu if you need help with the site.