so, somehow i want to start playing some lobbys. now the problem is... i usally spent like an hour playing soldier in mge every day but it feels like i get no improvement at all. most of the time i get pooped on like 8-20 and its just frustrating. as a result of these mge failures im kind of afraid to embarass myself in a lobby. what should i do :<?
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so, somehow i want to start playing some lobbys. now the problem is... i usally spent like an hour playing soldier in mge every day but it feels like i get no improvement at all. most of the time i get pooped on like 8-20 and its just frustrating. as a result of these mge failures im kind of afraid to embarass myself in a lobby. what should i do :<?
I'd say just try playing! These MGE "failures" might be against players who are experienced in the game and have really good DM already. In my opinion, lobbies are a really good platform to start on if you are new or relatively inexperienced in the game.
So, just take the plunge, try out a lobby! And once you have improved enough, you could go on to pugs too!
I'd say just try playing! These MGE "failures" might be against players who are experienced in the game and have really good DM already. In my opinion, lobbies are a really good platform to start on if you are new or relatively inexperienced in the game.
So, just take the plunge, try out a lobby! And once you have improved enough, you could go on to pugs too!
So, just take the plunge, try out a lobby! And once you have improved enough, you could go on to pugs too!
You won't win at MGE until you learn how to repeatedly jump for high ground and you memorize all the splash spots. You are better off playing some soapdm if your soldier skills are what you want to work on.
May as well just play lobbies if you want to, though. They have a pretty low skill ceiling.
You won't win at MGE until you learn how to repeatedly jump for high ground and you memorize all the splash spots. You are better off playing some soapdm if your soldier skills are what you want to work on.
May as well just play lobbies if you want to, though. They have a pretty low skill ceiling.
May as well just play lobbies if you want to, though. They have a pretty low skill ceiling.
Go for it. The people that talk shit in a lobby are the people good players make fun of.
If it doesn't go well, keep trying because that's what lobbies are for. And add me if you would like any help.
Go for it. The people that talk shit in a lobby are the people good players make fun of.
If it doesn't go well, keep trying because that's what lobbies are for. And add me if you would like any help.
If it doesn't go well, keep trying because that's what lobbies are for. And add me if you would like any help.
As people have said, go and play lobbies. No reason to wait. There's a lot more to the game than just head to head dm.
That being said... dm mod is nice but it's mostly like this as soldier: Spawn, turn to the side, rape some unaware person point blank, jump into a group of people who are fighting and unaware of you and annihilate them, and as you're wrapping that up an enemy scout or soldier does the same to you. Those are good things to know how to do reliably but they're relatively easy. MGE teaches that no-bullshit, head to head, me or him simple fighting that actually does matter a lot. No, the real game isn't like MGE but yet the instant you take a shot in the real game you should "channel MGE", so to speak, and consider the splash spots and the momentary positional situation. Avoiding that, in the long run, can make you weak imo.
If you're having problems improving then record a demo of your MGE sessions and watch them very critically in slow motion. Pay attention to all of the little details. Are you overshooting? Undershooting? Are you always moving straight at your enemy right as you spawn, therefore being super predictable and easy to shoot? Does your opponent take a good position immediately and you do not? Is he shooting the same spot that is destroying you but you haven't paid it much mind? Take every little bit of information you can and consciously work on it the next time you're playing.
Your practice time is not mindless drone play where you zone out and repeat automated steps. That's the real game, actually, as the dm portion becomes almost fully automated and you focus on predicting, positioning and team play on a larger scale. No, for practice you need to use your mind actively and it's strenuous. After you get done with practice you should be a little bit tired. It's a lot like lifting weights.
As people have said, go and play lobbies. No reason to wait. There's a lot more to the game than just head to head dm.
That being said... dm mod is nice but it's mostly like this as soldier: Spawn, turn to the side, rape some unaware person point blank, jump into a group of people who are fighting and unaware of you and annihilate them, and as you're wrapping that up an enemy scout or soldier does the same to you. Those are good things to know how to do reliably but they're relatively easy. MGE teaches that no-bullshit, head to head, me or him simple fighting that actually does matter a lot. No, the real game isn't like MGE but yet the instant you take a shot in the real game you should "channel MGE", so to speak, and consider the splash spots and the momentary positional situation. Avoiding that, in the long run, can make you weak imo.
If you're having problems improving then record a demo of your MGE sessions and watch them very critically in slow motion. Pay attention to all of the little details. Are you overshooting? Undershooting? Are you always moving straight at your enemy right as you spawn, therefore being super predictable and easy to shoot? Does your opponent take a good position immediately and you do not? Is he shooting the same spot that is destroying you but you haven't paid it much mind? Take every little bit of information you can and consciously work on it the next time you're playing.
Your practice time is not mindless drone play where you zone out and repeat automated steps. That's the real game, actually, as the dm portion becomes almost fully automated and you focus on predicting, positioning and team play on a larger scale. No, for practice you need to use your mind actively and it's strenuous. After you get done with practice you should be a little bit tired. It's a lot like lifting weights.
That being said... dm mod is nice but it's mostly like this as soldier: Spawn, turn to the side, rape some unaware person point blank, jump into a group of people who are fighting and unaware of you and annihilate them, and as you're wrapping that up an enemy scout or soldier does the same to you. Those are good things to know how to do reliably but they're relatively easy. MGE teaches that no-bullshit, head to head, me or him simple fighting that actually does matter a lot. No, the real game isn't like MGE but yet the instant you take a shot in the real game you should "channel MGE", so to speak, and consider the splash spots and the momentary positional situation. Avoiding that, in the long run, can make you weak imo.
If you're having problems improving then record a demo of your MGE sessions and watch them very critically in slow motion. Pay attention to all of the little details. Are you overshooting? Undershooting? Are you always moving straight at your enemy right as you spawn, therefore being super predictable and easy to shoot? Does your opponent take a good position immediately and you do not? Is he shooting the same spot that is destroying you but you haven't paid it much mind? Take every little bit of information you can and consciously work on it the next time you're playing.
Your practice time is not mindless drone play where you zone out and repeat automated steps. That's the real game, actually, as the dm portion becomes almost fully automated and you focus on predicting, positioning and team play on a larger scale. No, for practice you need to use your mind actively and it's strenuous. After you get done with practice you should be a little bit tired. It's a lot like lifting weights.
oktober_so, somehow i want to start playing some lobbys. now the problem is... i usally spent like an hour playing soldier in mge every day but it feels like i get no improvement at all. most of the time i get pooped on like 8-20 and its just frustrating. as a result of these mge failures im kind of afraid to embarass myself in a lobby. what should i do :<?
rarely does anyone take lobbies seriously. tons of off classing and just general trolling. as for MGE, don't take that extremely seriously, either. getting rolled 8-20 is just fine as long as you take away experience from it. why did you lose?: didn't take shotgun out fast enough, missed a lot of rockets, couldn't rocket jump well, etc.
also, check out the newbie mixes (happening tomorrow, in fact): http://teamfortress.tv/schedule/event/213-newbie-mixes
[quote=oktober_]so, somehow i want to start playing some lobbys. now the problem is... i usally spent like an hour playing soldier in mge every day but it feels like i get no improvement at all. most of the time i get pooped on like 8-20 and its just frustrating. as a result of these mge failures im kind of afraid to embarass myself in a lobby. what should i do :<?[/quote]
rarely does anyone take lobbies seriously. tons of off classing and just general trolling. as for MGE, don't take that extremely seriously, either. getting rolled 8-20 is just fine as long as you take away experience from it. why did you lose?: didn't take shotgun out fast enough, missed a lot of rockets, couldn't rocket jump well, etc.
also, check out the newbie mixes (happening tomorrow, in fact): http://teamfortress.tv/schedule/event/213-newbie-mixes
rarely does anyone take lobbies seriously. tons of off classing and just general trolling. as for MGE, don't take that extremely seriously, either. getting rolled 8-20 is just fine as long as you take away experience from it. why did you lose?: didn't take shotgun out fast enough, missed a lot of rockets, couldn't rocket jump well, etc.
also, check out the newbie mixes (happening tomorrow, in fact): http://teamfortress.tv/schedule/event/213-newbie-mixes
Thanks for the responses. guess i will just try out a lobby.
Thanks for the responses. guess i will just try out a lobby.
Hit up the newbie mixes. Lobbies get to the point where all you can learn is the basics; how vaguely play a role, and most people don't take them seriously. Newbie mixes are great, much better for learning how to play.
Hit up the newbie mixes. Lobbies get to the point where all you can learn is the basics; how vaguely play a role, and most people don't take them seriously. Newbie mixes are great, much better for learning how to play.
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