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the state of tf2mix
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#31
13 Frags +

I never understood the fun in 5-0 rolling the other team.

I never understood the fun in 5-0 rolling the other team.
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#32
6 Frags +

+ for eulogy, with my experience with him he fixes or at least addresses issues. Sure he get up about it but I'd rather have a strict admin then a lax one.

+ for eulogy, with my experience with him he fixes or at least addresses issues. Sure he get up about it but I'd rather have a strict admin then a lax one.
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#33
7 Frags +

I've already said a few things about tf2.mix in a past thread, but I'll restate what I said before. I know a lot of people want to say that admins need to start banning more often, and I don't disagree, but do you really think that those people are doing the same thing when they are playing with or against us admins? They aren't for the most part. We really need more people to step up and send a PM with the statistics and what happened and whom was doing what. No one is ever going to know it was you that said something, so don't worry about giving us the information. I get 10 PM's if there is a problem with the bot, but no one really says anything if someone is being an ass. :)

Just give an admin a heads up.

I've already said a few things about tf2.mix in a past thread, but I'll restate what I said before. I know a lot of people want to say that admins need to start banning more often, and I don't disagree, but do you really think that those people are doing the same thing when they are playing with or against us admins? They aren't for the most part. We really need more people to step up and send a PM with the statistics and what happened and whom was doing what. No one is ever going to know it was you that said something, so don't worry about giving us the information. I get 10 PM's if there is a problem with the bot, but no one really says anything if someone is being an ass. :)

Just give an admin a heads up.
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#34
7 Frags +

The big problems with tf2mix is the captains have no idea who their picking so either team almost always roll 5-0. Or the people scramble till they play with their friends then go and play tf2lobby.

The big problems with tf2mix is the captains have no idea who their picking so either team almost always roll 5-0. Or the people scramble till they play with their friends then go and play tf2lobby.
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#35
Momentum Mod
3 Frags +
reillyHellbentFix the terrible servers while you're at it
They aren't terrible, they're just in Dallas.

I've never pinged above 110 to any Dallas server even when watching streams and I ping 90 to ESEA Dallas, but I ping 140 to those servers, and from what I remember, when I left cl_interp as 0, it defaulted to 25ms instead of 15.2ms.

It's a bad server

[quote=reilly][quote=Hellbent]Fix the terrible servers while you're at it[/quote]

They aren't terrible, they're just in Dallas.[/quote]

I've never pinged above 110 to any Dallas server even when watching streams and I ping 90 to ESEA Dallas, but I ping 140 to those servers, and from what I remember, when I left cl_interp as 0, it defaulted to 25ms instead of 15.2ms.

It's a bad server
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#36
0 Frags +

I remember 1 of the servers being even worse than the others- think maybe da3, not sure tho

I remember 1 of the servers being even worse than the others- think maybe da3, not sure tho
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#37
-4 Frags +
morning_foxThe big problems with tf2mix is the captains have no idea who their picking so either team almost always roll 5-0. Or the people scramble till they play with their friends then go and play tf2lobby.

What if I don't enjoy playing with carries all the time? I wanna pick people I enjoy playing with who are good, but if a carry is just annoying, I don't want to pick them, and people shouldn't feel obligated to.

I think it would be nice to just split tf2mix into two IRCs. One with the captains and the other with the normal gametype. That would also give freedom to update the bot similar to pug.na. I know people could just go to pug.na but suffer frequent fatkidding.

[quote=morning_fox]The big problems with tf2mix is the captains have no idea who their picking so either team almost always roll 5-0. Or the people scramble till they play with their friends then go and play tf2lobby.[/quote]

What if I don't enjoy playing with carries all the time? I wanna pick people I enjoy playing with who are good, but if a carry is just annoying, I don't want to pick them, and people shouldn't feel obligated to.

I think it would be nice to just split tf2mix into two IRCs. One with the captains and the other with the normal gametype. That would also give freedom to update the bot similar to pug.na. I know people could just go to pug.na but suffer frequent fatkidding.
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#38
0 Frags +

I'm from Canada as well, and I ping better to the tf2mix servers than I do to Dallas ESEA servers. The servers don't seem to crash ever, and they don't seem to stutter ever.

In all likelihood, you just have bad routing to the servers for whatever reason. Maybe some networking guru can correct me if this is wrong, but I think the further physical distance you have to cover, the more chances there are for something to go wrong with the routing, and you are from west coast Canada (according to your steam profile).

I'm from Canada as well, and I ping better to the tf2mix servers than I do to Dallas ESEA servers. The servers don't seem to crash ever, and they don't seem to stutter ever.

In all likelihood, you just have bad routing to the servers for whatever reason. Maybe some networking guru can correct me if this is wrong, but I think the further physical distance you have to cover, the more chances there are for something to go wrong with the routing, and you are from west coast Canada (according to your steam profile).
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#39
0 Frags +
Prowermorning_foxThe big problems with tf2mix is the captains have no idea who their picking so either team almost always roll 5-0. Or the people scramble till they play with their friends then go and play tf2lobby.
What if I don't enjoy playing with carries all the time? I wanna pick people I enjoy playing with who are good, but if a carry is just annoying, I don't want to pick them, and people shouldn't feel obligated to.

I think it would be nice to just split tf2mix into two IRCs. One with the captains and the other with the normal gametype. That would also give freedom to update the bot similar to pug.na. I know people could just go to pug.na but suffer frequent fatkidding.

The point of captaining is to commit to creating the most balanced teams you can. I don't mean this rudely, but if that's not what you're trying to do when captaining, you probably shouldn't be captaining.

If you want to play with your friends, that's fine, you can still pick them. However, if they aren't a "carry", you shouldn't be making them one of your first picks, because you are imbalancing the teams, and your friend should still be there after the first round of picks anyways. I've seen so many captains lately outright ignore 2-3 potential first picks, and they all end up on the same team.

[quote=Prower][quote=morning_fox]The big problems with tf2mix is the captains have no idea who their picking so either team almost always roll 5-0. Or the people scramble till they play with their friends then go and play tf2lobby.[/quote]

What if I don't enjoy playing with carries all the time? I wanna pick people I enjoy playing with who are good, but if a carry is just annoying, I don't want to pick them, and people shouldn't feel obligated to.

I think it would be nice to just split tf2mix into two IRCs. One with the captains and the other with the normal gametype. That would also give freedom to update the bot similar to pug.na. I know people could just go to pug.na but suffer frequent fatkidding.[/quote]

The point of captaining is to commit to creating the most balanced teams you can. I don't mean this rudely, but if that's not what you're trying to do when captaining, you probably shouldn't be captaining.

If you want to play with your friends, that's fine, you can still pick them. However, if they aren't a "carry", you shouldn't be making them one of your first picks, because you are imbalancing the teams, and your friend should still be there after the first round of picks anyways. I've seen so many captains lately outright ignore 2-3 potential first picks, and they all end up on the same team.
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#40
4 Frags +
cinqBoogaloo, if you wanna help you are more than welcome. We lack admins and it's a known issue. The most active admin is eulogy_, he's almost the only one doing anything. I don't mind sharing this screenshot so you guys will see how much he's doing compared to anybody else. The thing is, it's very hard to get good and active admins. I know that for a fact since I've been running PUG systems for more 3 years now.

Regarding the !add roamer / pocket thing... I want to do it (you can even see it at the bottom of the screenshot), I just didn't have the time to do it yet. I will try to do it once I get some free time.

http://i.imgur.com/0Ht1GRf.png

Hey cinq, if you're looking for more admins then I'd be happy to help out. I pug in tf2mix and tf2.pug.na fairly often, (I've played over 100 games in each.) and I really want to aid in improving the quality of the pugs. (As a sidenote, I probably won't be pugging again until August as I'm on vacation in California right now.)

[quote=cinq]Boogaloo, if you wanna help you are more than welcome. We lack admins and it's a known issue. The most active admin is eulogy_, he's almost the only one doing anything. I don't mind sharing this screenshot so you guys will see how much he's doing compared to anybody else. The thing is, it's very hard to get good and active admins. I know that for a fact since I've been running PUG systems for more 3 years now.

Regarding the !add roamer / pocket thing... I want to do it (you can even see it at the bottom of the screenshot), I just didn't have the time to do it yet. I will try to do it once I get some free time.

http://i.imgur.com/0Ht1GRf.png[/quote]
Hey cinq, if you're looking for more admins then I'd be happy to help out. I pug in tf2mix and tf2.pug.na fairly often, (I've played over 100 games in each.) and I really want to aid in improving the quality of the pugs. (As a sidenote, I probably won't be pugging again until August as I'm on vacation in California right now.)
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#41
-47 Frags +

#tf2mix is going downhill nuff said. We need more admins.

#tf2mix is going downhill nuff said. We need more admins.
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#42
47 Frags +
Toaster#tf2mix is going downhill nuff said. We need more admins.

maybe if you stopped leaving all the games half way through because you're getting shit on it wouldn't

[quote=Toaster]#tf2mix is going downhill nuff said. We need more admins.[/quote]
maybe if you stopped leaving all the games half way through because you're getting shit on it wouldn't
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#43
8 Frags +
Toaster#tf2mix is going downhill nuff said. We need more admins.

What is this? I don't even...

[quote=Toaster]#tf2mix is going downhill nuff said. We need more admins.[/quote]
What is this? I don't even...
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#44
-60 Frags +

morningfox #tf2mix blows get on my level. Really the times I have pugged there my team is utterly shit. Plus morningfox I do not get shit on I shit on people.

morningfox #tf2mix blows get on my level. Really the times I have pugged there my team is utterly shit. Plus morningfox I do not get shit on I shit on people.
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#45
14 Frags +
Toastermorningfox #tf2mix blows get on my level. Really the times I have pugged there my team is utterly shit. Plus morningfox I do not get shit on I shit on people.

possibly the biggest lie i've ever read, I pugged with you once and we literally couldn't hear the comms because you kept overextending and dieing, then screaming into your mic like you got shot.

HellbentreillyHellbentFix the terrible servers while you're at it
They aren't terrible, they're just in Dallas.

I've never pinged above 110 to any Dallas server even when watching streams and I ping 90 to ESEA Dallas, but I ping 140 to those servers, and from what I remember, when I left cl_interp as 0, it defaulted to 25ms instead of 15.2ms.

It's a bad server

+1 for bad servers aswell

[quote=Toaster]morningfox #tf2mix blows get on my level. Really the times I have pugged there my team is utterly shit. Plus morningfox I do not get shit on I shit on people.[/quote]
possibly the biggest lie i've ever read, I pugged with you once and we literally couldn't hear the comms because you kept overextending and dieing, then screaming into your mic like you got shot.

[quote=Hellbent][quote=reilly][quote=Hellbent]Fix the terrible servers while you're at it[/quote]

They aren't terrible, they're just in Dallas.[/quote]

I've never pinged above 110 to any Dallas server even when watching streams and I ping 90 to ESEA Dallas, but I ping 140 to those servers, and from what I remember, when I left cl_interp as 0, it defaulted to 25ms instead of 15.2ms.

It's a bad server[/quote]

+1 for bad servers aswell
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#46
15 Frags +
Toastermorningfox #tf2mix blows get on my level. Really the times I have pugged there my team is utterly shit. Plus morningfox I do not get shit on I shit on people.

How's getting fat kidded in every pug.na going for you RaCecAr?

[quote=Toaster]morningfox #tf2mix blows get on my level. Really the times I have pugged there my team is utterly shit. Plus morningfox I do not get shit on I shit on people.[/quote]

How's getting fat kidded in every pug.na going for you RaCecAr?
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#47
-40 Frags +

Lol am not even going to bother posting here again. For your information I do not get fat kidded in pug.na go check my stats nerd l8r.

Lol am not even going to bother posting here again. For your information I do not get fat kidded in pug.na go check my stats nerd l8r.
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#48
20 Frags +
ToasterLol am not even going to bother posting here again. For your information I do not get fat kidded in pug.na go check my stats nerd l8r.

goodbye no one will miss you

[quote=Toaster]Lol am not even going to bother posting here again. For your information I do not get fat kidded in pug.na go check my stats nerd l8r.[/quote]

goodbye no one will miss you
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#49
12 Frags +
ToasterLol am not even going to bother posting here again. For your information I do not get fat kidded in pug.na go check my stats nerd l8r.

You've said this 10 times already. Please leave until you become more mature.

[quote=Toaster]Lol am not even going to bother posting here again. For your information I do not get fat kidded in pug.na go check my stats nerd l8r.[/quote]

You've said this 10 times already. Please leave until you become more mature.
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#50
-39 Frags +

I will say it again people just being dumb. FYI got a new mic. Haters want to hate. Whatever you say doesn't really matter. I do not even know what you are saying. When was the last time I pugged in tf2mix, em a really long time ago.

I will say it again people just being dumb. FYI got a new mic. Haters want to hate. Whatever you say doesn't really matter. I do not even know what you are saying. When was the last time I pugged in tf2mix, em a really long time ago.
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#51
21 Frags +

can we just give toaster a fraac ban and move on already?

can we just give toaster a fraac ban and move on already?
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#52
10 Frags +
ToasterI will say it again people just being dumb. FYI got a new mic. Haters want to hate. Whatever you say doesn't really matter. I do not even know what you are saying. When was the last time I pugged in tf2mix, em a really long time ago.

Clearly you've carried over your powerful deathmatching to pugna http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/42529. Don't say this was a long time ago this was 2 days ago. Hardly "shitting on people"

[quote=Toaster]I will say it again people just being dumb. FYI got a new mic. Haters want to hate. Whatever you say doesn't really matter. I do not even know what you are saying. When was the last time I pugged in tf2mix, em a really long time ago.[/quote]
Clearly you've carried over your powerful deathmatching to pugna http://sizzlingstats.com/stats/42529. Don't say this was a long time ago this was 2 days ago. Hardly "shitting on people"
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#53
-35 Frags +

I do not know how to play soldier I only play scout? That pug I added up scout but got picked solly. Cause class shortage

I do not know how to play soldier I only play scout? That pug I added up scout but got picked solly. Cause class shortage
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#54
-35 Frags +

Why are you even talking about this to make me in the center again. This is about tf2mix not me.

Why are you even talking about this to make me in the center again. This is about tf2mix not me.
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#55
14 Frags +
ToasterI will say it again people just being dumb. FYI got a new mic. Haters want to hate. Whatever you say doesn't really matter. I do not even know what you are saying. When was the last time I pugged in tf2mix, em a really long time ago.

Why do you constantly make things worst for yourself? Just don't reply if you believe they are haters. That just makes them want to post more stuff about you. You don't have to constantly defend yourself. Just let your game play talk for you. That is how you are going to find a team. You aren't by making yourself look like an idiot.

[quote=Toaster]I will say it again people just being dumb. FYI got a new mic. Haters want to hate. Whatever you say doesn't really matter. I do not even know what you are saying. When was the last time I pugged in tf2mix, em a really long time ago.[/quote]
Why do you constantly make things worst for yourself? Just don't reply if you believe they are haters. That just makes them want to post more stuff about you. You don't have to constantly defend yourself. Just let your game play talk for you. That is how you are going to find a team. You aren't by making yourself look like an idiot.
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#56
14 Frags +

why aren't the servers in chicago?

why aren't the servers in chicago?
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#57
-21 Frags +

FREE TOASTER BRO HE IS BETTER THAN EVERYONE IN HERE AT SCOUT I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS NOT ADMIN

*sarcasm*

FREE TOASTER BRO HE IS BETTER THAN EVERYONE IN HERE AT SCOUT I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY HE IS NOT ADMIN

*sarcasm*
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#58
5 Frags +

The last two mixes I played I'm sure would've had the exact same outcomes (0-5 roll and 5-0 roll) just based on some dramatic team stacking. Accidental or not, I have no clue.

Also, why does everything I look at turn into a Toaster thread?

The last two mixes I played I'm sure would've had the exact same outcomes (0-5 roll and 5-0 roll) just based on some dramatic team stacking. Accidental or not, I have no clue.

Also, why does everything I look at turn into a Toaster thread?
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#59
0 Frags +

It's been shit for a long time.
I don't know why this is SUDDENLY news. You get horror show pockets that can't call, but expect all the heals, you get a scout that wants to chill at last to get kills instead of capping the point or securing second. I stopped doing them all together because it's always a fucking joke.
Frankly, it's a shit storm because most the people get selfish with things. If you want to big dick, go play a lobby, it'll work, unless you have the tiniest little dick the world has ever seen.
Captaining is tough since it's better to HAVE mixes than wait for a good captain that knows people. I mean, let's consider it's EVERYTHING below high-open. That's a lot of fucking people to know.

It's been shit for a long time.
I don't know why this is SUDDENLY news. You get horror show pockets that can't call, but expect all the heals, you get a scout that wants to chill at last to get kills instead of capping the point or securing second. I stopped doing them all together because it's always a fucking joke.
Frankly, it's a shit storm because most the people get selfish with things. If you want to big dick, go play a lobby, it'll work, unless you have the tiniest little dick the world has ever seen.
Captaining is tough since it's better to HAVE mixes than wait for a good captain that knows people. I mean, let's consider it's EVERYTHING below high-open. That's a lot of fucking people to know.
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#60
0 Frags +
TurinHow about the time when I picked my team and 4 players didn't show up. We decided to just 5v5 since subs weren't coming. The other team just skipped capping mid and just spawncamped us the rest of the pug.

i was in that game

fun times

[quote=Turin]How about the time when I picked my team and 4 players didn't show up. We decided to just 5v5 since subs weren't coming. The other team just skipped capping mid and just spawncamped us the rest of the pug.[/quote]

i was in that game

fun times
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