I'm just here to see where the doctor-analogy will go next.
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I'm just here to see where the doctor-analogy will go next.
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ArieI'm just here to see where the doctor-analogy will go next.
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[quote=Arie]I'm just here to see where the doctor-analogy will go next.
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ArxIt applies to the post above too. A doctor fresh out of medical school isn't automatically a great doctor. They need experience which takes time.
To be fair they don't give a doctor fresh out of med school high profile and complex surgery to do.. they tend to start at lower levels where they are unlikely to cause issues whilst they are still learning. Then later they get to do the brain surgery and earn enough bank for private jets and all that jazz.
So you should be asking Byte where your private jet is.... :)
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[quote=Arx]It applies to the post above too. A doctor fresh out of medical school isn't automatically a great doctor. They need experience which takes time.[/quote]
To be fair they don't give a doctor fresh out of med school high profile and complex surgery to do.. they tend to start at lower levels where they are unlikely to cause issues whilst they are still learning. Then later they get to do the brain surgery and earn enough bank for private jets and all that jazz.
So you should be asking Byte where your private jet is.... :)
[quote=Arx]It applies to the post above too. A doctor fresh out of medical school isn't automatically a great doctor. They need experience which takes time.[/quote]
To be fair they don't give a doctor fresh out of med school high profile and complex surgery to do.. they tend to start at lower levels where they are unlikely to cause issues whilst they are still learning. Then later they get to do the brain surgery and earn enough bank for private jets and all that jazz.
So you should be asking Byte where your private jet is.... :)
:D:D Met Matt Berry at a gig a while ago, top bloke!
:D:D Met Matt Berry at a gig a while ago, top bloke!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqDbb7-dn9A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqDbb7-dn9A
A lot of the hate Mia gets is due to the fact that she's casting on the main european stream. Nobody starts out knowing how to cast and bashing on her because she's new is unfair. But learning should be done on a private stream while getting feedback from people who've specifically decided to watch that stream. Instead it's being done on a stream which is one of the public faces of comp TF2. People watching VTV expect certain standards to be met, and Mia's casting does not.
It doesn't help either that some people believe that she gets to cast just because she's a girl and friends with the VTV guys. I'm too ill-informed to have an opinion on that.
A lot of the hate Mia gets is due to the fact that she's casting on the main european stream. Nobody starts out knowing how to cast and bashing on her because she's new is unfair. But learning should be done on a private stream while getting feedback from people who've specifically decided to watch that stream. Instead it's being done on a stream which is one of the public faces of comp TF2. People watching VTV expect certain standards to be met, and Mia's casting does not.
It doesn't help either that some people believe that she gets to cast just because she's a girl and friends with the VTV guys. I'm too ill-informed to have an opinion on that.
It doesn't help either that some people believe that she gets to cast just because she's a girl and friends with the VTV guys. I'm too ill-informed to have an opinion on that.
I'll stop by and cast a game if needed, one of the earlier ones... since it's been a while!
I'll stop by and cast a game if needed, one of the earlier ones... since it's been a while!
BoneSJackyLegsVanillaTV is dying slowlyTFTVEU relies on VTV for STV relays and team comms on mumble.
I know this is a borderline necro, and I'm barely even involved anymore, but that's bullshit.
A few months ago back when no one else in VTV would give me the time of day and a lot of people in TFTV were getting a little circlejerky about the whole thing, myself and Arie sat down and worked a ton of things, particularly regarding this.
TFTV uses Arie's FakkelBrigade relays because during this conversation, I casually mentioned that I was looking into sorting out things with our relays. Arie was adamant that we were more than welcome to use his even though I initially had reservations about it. A TF2 server usually only has 1 relay slot, so the deal we worked out was that any game being casted by both organisations would have an FB relay connected to it, TFTV would use that relay for their streamers/casters, and then a VTV relay would be chained on to that.
Again, the team comms. We got a dedicated, neutral "team comms" mumble server set up on Arie's server that a few people from both orgs were given admin privileges on. The idea is we have teams join that server, and then several sound delay bots. TFTV cast off that server purely for convenience and can link channels to enable team comms, and VTV have someone (usually Arie) relay the sound from that mumble to their mumble for the cast. It's on Arie's server for no particular reason, anyone with a dedicated server can create one of any slot size with negligible effort.
I don't really want to get into an argument like this when I'm not hugely invested in either side anymore, but what I'd say is the most important thing is producing the best product for the viewers to enjoy, and the numbers indicate quite clearly who's doing a better job of that at the moment.
I wouldn't worry about casters for i49. I'm going to save myself the annoyance of reading the rest of this thread, but I would like to at least hope that VTV are going to put up the best people available throughout the weekend regardless of their chosen organization.
[quote=BoneS][quote=JackyLegs]VanillaTV is dying slowly[/quote] TFTVEU relies on VTV for STV relays and team comms on mumble.[/quote]
I know this is a borderline necro, and I'm barely even involved anymore, but that's bullshit.
A few months ago back when no one else in VTV would give me the time of day and a lot of people in TFTV were getting a little circlejerky about the whole thing, myself and Arie sat down and worked a ton of things, particularly regarding this.
TFTV uses [b]Arie's FakkelBrigade relays[/b] because during this conversation, I casually mentioned that I was looking into sorting out things with our relays. Arie was adamant that we were more than welcome to use his even though I initially had reservations about it. A TF2 server usually only has 1 relay slot, so the deal we worked out was that any game being casted by both organisations would have an FB relay connected to it, TFTV would use that relay for their streamers/casters, and then a VTV relay would be chained on to that.
Again, the team comms. We got a dedicated, neutral "team comms" mumble server set up on Arie's server that a few people from both orgs were given admin privileges on. The idea is we have teams join that server, and then several sound delay bots. TFTV cast off that server purely for convenience and can link channels to enable team comms, and VTV have someone (usually Arie) relay the sound from that mumble to their mumble for the cast. It's on Arie's server for no particular reason, anyone with a dedicated server can create one of any slot size with negligible effort.
I don't really want to get into an argument like this when I'm not hugely invested in either side anymore, but what I'd say is the most important thing is producing the best product for the viewers to enjoy, and the numbers indicate quite clearly who's doing a better job of that at the moment.
I wouldn't worry about casters for i49. I'm going to save myself the annoyance of reading the rest of this thread, but I would like to at least hope that VTV are going to put up the best people available throughout the weekend regardless of their chosen organization.
I know this is a borderline necro, and I'm barely even involved anymore, but that's bullshit.
A few months ago back when no one else in VTV would give me the time of day and a lot of people in TFTV were getting a little circlejerky about the whole thing, myself and Arie sat down and worked a ton of things, particularly regarding this.
TFTV uses [b]Arie's FakkelBrigade relays[/b] because during this conversation, I casually mentioned that I was looking into sorting out things with our relays. Arie was adamant that we were more than welcome to use his even though I initially had reservations about it. A TF2 server usually only has 1 relay slot, so the deal we worked out was that any game being casted by both organisations would have an FB relay connected to it, TFTV would use that relay for their streamers/casters, and then a VTV relay would be chained on to that.
Again, the team comms. We got a dedicated, neutral "team comms" mumble server set up on Arie's server that a few people from both orgs were given admin privileges on. The idea is we have teams join that server, and then several sound delay bots. TFTV cast off that server purely for convenience and can link channels to enable team comms, and VTV have someone (usually Arie) relay the sound from that mumble to their mumble for the cast. It's on Arie's server for no particular reason, anyone with a dedicated server can create one of any slot size with negligible effort.
I don't really want to get into an argument like this when I'm not hugely invested in either side anymore, but what I'd say is the most important thing is producing the best product for the viewers to enjoy, and the numbers indicate quite clearly who's doing a better job of that at the moment.
I wouldn't worry about casters for i49. I'm going to save myself the annoyance of reading the rest of this thread, but I would like to at least hope that VTV are going to put up the best people available throughout the weekend regardless of their chosen organization.
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