Dota 6.79

#61

it_is_crown

0 Frags – +

Please make Riki perms-invisible. He is annoying but now he will be more annoying.

#62

Thunderchunkie

0 Frags – +

PaxMu
PS: If you want laser beams, Skywrath Aghanim's upgrade makes his ultimate have 0 cooldown. Add KotL's Chakra and OD's Essence Aura and you can start the laser rain.

Aura doesn't work with most spells with 0 cooldown including the new aghs flare.

[quote=PaxMu]

PS: If you want laser beams, Skywrath Aghanim's upgrade makes his ultimate have 0 cooldown. Add KotL's Chakra and OD's Essence Aura and you can start the laser rain.[/quote]

Aura doesn't work with most spells with 0 cooldown including the new aghs flare.

#63

downpour

2 Frags – +

do people not understand how expensive dagon and ethereal are and how bad they are on him, even with his invis buff
like it would just be awful to get those on him

#64

bl4nk

3 Frags – +

shotgun is never bad

#65

PaxMu

0 Frags – +

downpourdo people not understand how expensive dagon and ethereal are and how bad they are on him, even with his invis buff
like it would just be awful to get those on him

Get:
- Phase boots (Now it doesn't break invis)
- Drums
- Orb of Venom (For the slow instead of Purge from Diffusal)
- Yasha
- Ethereal blade
- Dagon 5

With this build you're good to go to troll in low skill pubs.

[quote=downpour]do people not understand how expensive dagon and ethereal are and how bad they are on him, even with his invis buff
like it would just be awful to get those on him[/quote]

Get:
- Phase boots (Now it doesn't break invis)
- Drums
- Orb of Venom (For the slow instead of Purge from Diffusal)
- Yasha
- Ethereal blade
- Dagon 5

With this build you're good to go to troll in low skill pubs.

#66

downpour

6 Frags – +

PaxMudownpourdo people not understand how expensive dagon and ethereal are and how bad they are on him, even with his invis buff
like it would just be awful to get those on him
Get:
- Phase boots (Now it doesn't break invis)
- Drums
- Orb of Venom (For the slow instead of Purge from Diffusal)
- Yasha
- Ethereal blade
- Dagon 5

With this build you're good to go to troll in low skill pubs.

yeah but who cares about low skill pubs

[quote=PaxMu][quote=downpour]do people not understand how expensive dagon and ethereal are and how bad they are on him, even with his invis buff
like it would just be awful to get those on him[/quote]

Get:
- Phase boots (Now it doesn't break invis)
- Drums
- Orb of Venom (For the slow instead of Purge from Diffusal)
- Yasha
- Ethereal blade
- Dagon 5

With this build you're good to go to troll in low skill pubs.[/quote]
yeah but who cares about low skill pubs

#67

FFG

0 Frags – +

sweet my stack wont get mad at me for picking brood now

#68

Radman

-2 Frags – +

Why is this patch bad? I know bl4nk is upset that the jungle changes nerf "sit in jungle and farm all game" prophet. But other than that, it seems like the changes are generally encouraging early game aggression, and make trilaning less attractive.

#69

2sy_morphiend

-1 Frags – +

RadmanWhy is this patch bad? I know bl4nk is upset that the jungle changes nerf "sit in jungle and farm all game" prophet. But other than that, it seems like the changes are generally encouraging early game aggression, and make trilaning less attractive.

Only people talking sense here are vortex/necrid really. There isn't a single hero change in here that I think is unfair or insane, and even the few that I think are questionable are likely to be ironed out quickly. Getting mad about pudge/VS blink is just insane since there's been stuff twice as gay to pair with blink added since like 2005. Slark might be a pain in the dick since you're kind of forced to pick some kind of AoE stun against him, but he's not even in cm so why sweat it quite yet.

http://puu.sh/4T8SA.jpg

Better fucking believe I'm ready for seeker to be viable. Been waiting almost a decade for this shit.

[quote=Radman]Why is this patch bad? I know bl4nk is upset that the jungle changes nerf "sit in jungle and farm all game" prophet. But other than that, it seems like the changes are generally encouraging early game aggression, and make trilaning less attractive.[/quote]

Only people talking sense here are vortex/necrid really. There isn't a single hero change in here that I think is unfair or insane, and even the few that I think are questionable are likely to be ironed out quickly. Getting mad about pudge/VS blink is just insane since there's been stuff twice as gay to pair with blink added since like 2005. Slark might be a pain in the dick since you're kind of forced to pick some kind of AoE stun against him, but he's not even in cm so why sweat it quite yet.

[img]http://puu.sh/4T8SA.jpg[/img]

Better fucking believe I'm ready for seeker to be viable. Been waiting almost a decade for this shit.

#70

Conrad

-1 Frags – +

2sy_morphiend Slark might be a pain in the dick since you're kind of forced to pick some kind of AoE stun against him, but he's not even in cm so why sweat it quite yet.

Slark has been in CM for like 5 months now.

[quote=2sy_morphiend] Slark might be a pain in the dick since you're kind of forced to pick some kind of AoE stun against him, but he's not even in cm so why sweat it quite yet.[/quote]
Slark has been in CM for like 5 months now.

#71

2sy_morphiend

3 Frags – +

Did you read the patch notes

#72

Conrad

2 Frags – +

Whoops I'm dumb

#73

Thomasduhtrain

0 Frags – +

I'm not exactly knowledgeable with the whole stack and pull mechanics, but can't radiant still just pull into their small camp and after that if the wave isn't dead pull into the camp behind it? I mean i understand the xp share with neutral creeps is a large change, but for the most part when you soaked up xp from an enemies pull the xp from the actual creep wave was the main priority right?

I mean i guess that the off laners now can end up with a bit more xp than normal, but doesn't a safe lane stacking and pulling still accomplish equilibrium near the safe lanes tower, or flat out free farm? I mean supports might be a bit more xp starved, but in the end a lot of their xp is from killing higher level'd people. Plus from games i've spectated with actual good teams in them, supports a lot of the time end up roaming in the laning stage setting up ganks and such.

I'm not exactly knowledgeable with the whole stack and pull mechanics, but can't radiant still just pull into their small camp and after that if the wave isn't dead pull into the camp behind it? I mean i understand the xp share with neutral creeps is a large change, but for the most part when you soaked up xp from an enemies pull the xp from the actual creep wave was the main priority right?

I mean i guess that the off laners now can end up with a bit more xp than normal, but doesn't a safe lane stacking and pulling still accomplish equilibrium near the safe lanes tower, or flat out free farm? I mean supports might be a bit more xp starved, but in the end a lot of their xp is from killing higher level'd people. Plus from games i've spectated with actual good teams in them, supports a lot of the time end up roaming in the laning stage setting up ganks and such.

#74

PaxMu

0 Frags – +

ThomasduhtrainI'm not exactly knowledgeable with the whole stack and pull mechanics, but can't radiant still just pull into their small camp and after that if the wave isn't dead pull into the camp behind it? I mean i understand the xp share with neutral creeps is a large change, but for the most part when you soaked up xp from an enemies pull the xp from the actual creep wave was the main priority right?

I mean i guess that the off laners now can end up with a bit more xp than normal, but doesn't a safe lane stacking and pulling still accomplish equilibrium near the safe lanes tower, or flat out free farm? I mean supports might be a bit more xp starved, but in the end a lot of their xp is from killing higher level'd people. Plus from games i've spectated with actual good teams in them, supports a lot of the time end up roaming in the laning stage setting up ganks and such.

The easiest solution: Block the pull camp (Now wards lasts 1 more minute) and everything will be the same as in 6.78 with only the creep equilibrium closer to the off-line tower (I think it will be next to the secret shop. If it's closer to the off-lane tower, it will be too safe for the off-laner even if he's solo against a dual lane/trilane).

I think Bounty Hunter will be the go-to hero for the off-lane in this patch with the return of classic off-laners like Tidehunter, Magnus, Beastmaster and more (now that bottle crowing is nerfed again with the 3 minute flying courier BS).

And the return of Clinkz too, now that Searing Arrows bonus damage goes through BKB.

[quote=Thomasduhtrain]I'm not exactly knowledgeable with the whole stack and pull mechanics, but can't radiant still just pull into their small camp and after that if the wave isn't dead pull into the camp behind it? I mean i understand the xp share with neutral creeps is a large change, but for the most part when you soaked up xp from an enemies pull the xp from the actual creep wave was the main priority right?

I mean i guess that the off laners now can end up with a bit more xp than normal, but doesn't a safe lane stacking and pulling still accomplish equilibrium near the safe lanes tower, or flat out free farm? I mean supports might be a bit more xp starved, but in the end a lot of their xp is from killing higher level'd people. Plus from games i've spectated with actual good teams in them, supports a lot of the time end up roaming in the laning stage setting up ganks and such.[/quote]

The easiest solution: Block the pull camp (Now wards lasts 1 more minute) and everything will be the same as in 6.78 with only the creep equilibrium closer to the off-line tower (I think it will be next to the secret shop. If it's closer to the off-lane tower, it will be too safe for the off-laner even if he's solo against a dual lane/trilane).

I think Bounty Hunter will be the go-to hero for the off-lane in this patch with the return of classic off-laners like Tidehunter, Magnus, Beastmaster and more (now that bottle crowing is nerfed again with the 3 minute flying courier BS).

And the return of Clinkz too, now that Searing Arrows bonus damage goes through BKB.

#75

bl4nk

2 Frags – +

RadmanWhy is this patch bad? I know bl4nk is upset that the jungle changes nerf "sit in jungle and farm all game" prophet.

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[quote=Radman]Why is this patch bad? I know bl4nk is upset that the jungle changes nerf "sit in jungle and farm all game" prophet.[/quote]

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#76

Johny_16_

1 Frags – +

Its live D:

#77

Ggglygy

0 Frags – +

l-lich best c-champ 2013

#78

Vortex

3 Frags – +

"Broodmother is still the worst hero in the game." - Liquid Fluff

Fuck me.

"Broodmother is still the worst hero in the game." - Liquid Fluff

Fuck me.

#79

Saber

0 Frags – +

navi vs speed gaming, lich dominated early game with that nuke shit apparently

leads to first ban lich, him+clock pretty much means instant death if you get 2 heroes in cogs

navi vs speed gaming, lich dominated early game with that nuke shit apparently

leads to first ban lich, him+clock pretty much means instant death if you get 2 heroes in cogs

#80

m

-2 Frags – +

icefrog obviously making sure his navi pendant gets around

#81

Vortex

0 Frags – +

I don't remember them changing lich's damage abilities at all. Is there a reason that he's getting picked up now? Is it the sacrifice change?

#82

micgao

0 Frags – +

Yes, sacrifice means he gets to level faster and frost armor not only works against ranged heros now but the slow also stacks with his nuke. You can put him anywhere and he wins his lane guaranteed.

#83

Wintersun

0 Frags – +

I can't wait to see actual competitive matches played on this patch. It's gonna be glorious. I love most of the changes.

#84

Snowy

0 Frags – +

There was a match just today in Speed v Na'Vi.

Weird picks.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1oww98/navi_vs_speed_gaming_discussion_thread_first/

There was a match just today in Speed v Na'Vi.

Weird picks.

http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1oww98/navi_vs_speed_gaming_discussion_thread_first/

#85

bigfuck

0 Frags – +

looking for invoker mentor, will give rare once i win, hit me up

#86

Vortex

6 Frags – +

bigfucklooking for invoker mentor, will give rare once i win, hit me up

Start Quas, coldsnap them at level 2. Never stop cold snapping them. Continue to cold snap them. Win your lane. Put a lot of points in Wex and Tornado/EMP whoever you see and drain all their mana. Continue doing this while giggling like a schoolgirl until their entire team buys BKB.

The alternative is never ever miss sunstrikes and go Quas/Exort. As soon as you miss a sunstrike you must retire indefinitely from ever going exort invoker.

[quote=bigfuck]looking for invoker mentor, will give rare once i win, hit me up[/quote] Start Quas, coldsnap them at level 2. Never stop cold snapping them. Continue to cold snap them. Win your lane. Put a lot of points in Wex and Tornado/EMP whoever you see and drain all their mana. Continue doing this while giggling like a schoolgirl until their entire team buys BKB.

The alternative is never ever miss sunstrikes and go Quas/Exort. As soon as you miss a sunstrike you must retire indefinitely from ever going exort invoker.

#87

bl4nk

0 Frags – +

invoker mentor here. first main match in less than 1hr. have yet to play a scrim on this patch. SHOULD BE INTERESTING.

#88

bigfuck

2 Frags – +

VortexStart Quas, coldsnap them at level 2. Never stop cold snapping them. Continue to cold snap them. Win your lane.

this was effective as fuck, maybe due in part to midding against a fucking SA who had 3 branches by second night time

[quote=Vortex]Start Quas, coldsnap them at level 2. Never stop cold snapping them. Continue to cold snap them. Win your lane.[/quote]

this was effective as fuck, maybe due in part to midding against a fucking SA who had 3 branches by second night time

#89

choochoo

-1 Frags – +

Feelings after the patch:

Fuck duo lanes. So tired of that shit already. Jesus.

Feelings after the patch:

Fuck duo lanes. So tired of that shit already. Jesus.

#90

milo

2 Frags – +

choochooFeelings after the patch:

Fuck duo lanes. So tired of that shit already. Jesus.

you prefer trilanes? u big homo

[quote=choochoo]Feelings after the patch:

Fuck duo lanes. So tired of that shit already. Jesus.[/quote]

you prefer trilanes? u big homo