lmfao somebody paid harb to be good at a videogame whos the idiot now bahahaha
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some of you guys need to never play anything competitive ever
some of you guys need to never play anything competitive ever
mlmfao somebody paid harb to be good at a videogame whos the idiot now bahahaha
the analogy was regarding people donating to invite in any way, shape or form. that comment wasn't specific to harbleau... wait, why am I explaining this to you to begin with. troll
[quote=m]lmfao somebody paid harb to be good at a videogame whos the idiot now bahahaha[/quote]
the analogy was regarding people donating to invite in any way, shape or form. that comment wasn't specific to harbleau... wait, why am I explaining this to you to begin with. troll
the analogy was regarding people donating to invite in any way, shape or form. that comment wasn't specific to harbleau... wait, why am I explaining this to you to begin with. troll
shocka1harbleuthen you did a really bad job at it, since you completely destroyed the original message/intent behind my post.
Maybe you should read again what you wrote. Unless you want to edit it again, as you have already once.
i never edited the content of my post, i just added more onto the end of it. and no, you're still completely wrong. your "paraphrasing" of my post made it seem as if i was insulting players from lower divisions, which isn't true at all.
shocka1harbleuits not being humble when its true. or are you implying that i was never bad at this game? which if thats the case then thank you :3.
I think you're trolling at this point. Unless, again, you completely missed the point. I was correlating skill increase with an elevation in condescension
you didn't correlate that at all though, you just said i was bad at being humble. that in no way ties skill increase to condensation, and neither did any of your earlier posts either. you would have to somehow prove that i was different back when i was in open, which i assure you i have always viewed this game the same way.
shocka1harbleuthats sad that you refer to yourself as a shitty :( why would you do that?
again, you're probably trolling. but if not, I was clearly mocking you.
i think we got off on the wrong foot here then if you believe i think anyone not in invite is a shitty. i don't think they're as good as invite players and not as fun to watch because the level of play isn't as high, but i completely respect anybody who plays this game and strides to get better. are you saying our metalworks match vs iT or past lans we've played against iT weren't some of the best games of TF2 ever?
shocka1As you can see, this is a community based game. We all support each other. We are supposed to help each other in every way we can, whether it's casts/donations/websites/sizzlingstats/etc...And you are not being cooperative by trying to segregate Invite.
i'm in no way trying to segregate this game. what the hell are you talking about? some of you are basically sticking fingers in you ears and chanting malware, which in 0 ways affected you and are trying to switch over to a league that has 0 foundation in place to support the entire NA scene. im willing to switch if its the best for tf2, but the fact that nahanni has announced she has no intention of replacing esea should make you second guess your whole goals.
shocka1Get off your high horse and realize that some of us paid for you to get on that horse to begin with...
nobody every paid me to get good at this game. there are plenty of hobbies i could have invested my time into to get better at, i chose tf2 because it was the most fun to me. the fact that you are trying to act like people paid me to put in hours of practice a day to get to where im at is a fucking joke.
shocka1the analogy was regarding people donating to invite in any way, shape or form. that comment wasn't specific to harbleau... wait, why am I explaining this to you to begin with. troll
ah, now i see what you were trying to say. you just did a bad job at expressing it clearly. i have always given thanks to anybody in the community that has donated to the game. the fact that the community was able to send 2 teams to i46 and HRG to i49 is amazing. i have always taken pride that our team rarely asks for money, the last time i think we did was back on flow s11 when brad really came up with the donation strategy. i've always stated that people can chose what they want to donate to, nobody is forcing them to help teams attend lan. but the fact is a lot of people love watching lan matches and love seeing the competition so they're willing to pitch in. again you keep trying to make it seem like i look down on lower skilled players but that is completely the opposite. i started back in ugc and know what its like playing through it, i hope some day to see many of those players currently in ugc make it to invite and compete at the top. people play the game for different reasons, some play just for fun and don't care about increasing in skill level, i understand that. i had the most fun getting better and playing against better competition.
[quote=shocka1][quote=harbleu]then you did a really bad job at it, since you completely destroyed the original message/intent behind my post.[/quote]
Maybe you should read again what you wrote. Unless you want to edit it again, as you have already once.[/quote]
i never edited the content of my post, i just added more onto the end of it. and no, you're still completely wrong. your "paraphrasing" of my post made it seem as if i was insulting players from lower divisions, which isn't true at all.
[quote=shocka1][quote=harbleu]its not being humble when its true. or are you implying that i was never bad at this game? which if thats the case then thank you :3.[/quote]
I think you're trolling at this point. Unless, again, you completely missed the point. I was correlating skill increase with an elevation in condescension[/quote]
you didn't correlate that at all though, you just said i was bad at being humble. that in no way ties skill increase to condensation, and neither did any of your earlier posts either. you would have to somehow prove that i was different back when i was in open, which i assure you i have always viewed this game the same way.
[quote=shocka1][quote=harbleu]thats sad that you refer to yourself as a shitty :( why would you do that? [/quote]
again, you're probably trolling. but if not, I was clearly mocking you.[/quote]
i think we got off on the wrong foot here then if you believe i think anyone not in invite is a shitty. i don't think they're as good as invite players and not as fun to watch because the level of play isn't as high, but i completely respect anybody who plays this game and strides to get better. are you saying our metalworks match vs iT or past lans we've played against iT weren't some of the best games of TF2 ever?
[quote=shocka1]As you can see, this is a community based game. We all support each other. We are supposed to help each other in every way we can, whether it's casts/donations/websites/sizzlingstats/etc...And you are not being cooperative by trying to segregate Invite. [/quote]
i'm in no way trying to segregate this game. what the hell are you talking about? some of you are basically sticking fingers in you ears and chanting malware, which in 0 ways affected you and are trying to switch over to a league that has 0 foundation in place to support the entire NA scene. im willing to switch if its the best for tf2, but the fact that nahanni has announced she has no intention of replacing esea should make you second guess your whole goals.
[quote=shocka1]Get off your high horse and realize that some of us paid for you to get on that horse to begin with...[/quote]
nobody every paid me to get good at this game. there are plenty of hobbies i could have invested my time into to get better at, i chose tf2 because it was the most fun to me. the fact that you are trying to act like people paid me to put in hours of practice a day to get to where im at is a fucking joke.
[quote=shocka1]the analogy was regarding people donating to invite in any way, shape or form. that comment wasn't specific to harbleau... wait, why am I explaining this to you to begin with. troll[/quote]
ah, now i see what you were trying to say. you just did a bad job at expressing it clearly. i have always given thanks to anybody in the community that has donated to the game. the fact that the community was able to send 2 teams to i46 and HRG to i49 is amazing. i have always taken pride that our team rarely asks for money, the last time i think we did was back on flow s11 when brad really came up with the donation strategy. i've always stated that people can chose what they want to donate to, nobody is forcing them to help teams attend lan. but the fact is a lot of people love watching lan matches and love seeing the competition so they're willing to pitch in. again you keep trying to make it seem like i look down on lower skilled players but that is completely the opposite. i started back in ugc and know what its like playing through it, i hope some day to see many of those players currently in ugc make it to invite and compete at the top. people play the game for different reasons, some play just for fun and don't care about increasing in skill level, i understand that. i had the most fun getting better and playing against better competition.
Maybe you should read again what you wrote. Unless you want to edit it again, as you have already once.[/quote]
i never edited the content of my post, i just added more onto the end of it. and no, you're still completely wrong. your "paraphrasing" of my post made it seem as if i was insulting players from lower divisions, which isn't true at all.
[quote=shocka1][quote=harbleu]its not being humble when its true. or are you implying that i was never bad at this game? which if thats the case then thank you :3.[/quote]
I think you're trolling at this point. Unless, again, you completely missed the point. I was correlating skill increase with an elevation in condescension[/quote]
you didn't correlate that at all though, you just said i was bad at being humble. that in no way ties skill increase to condensation, and neither did any of your earlier posts either. you would have to somehow prove that i was different back when i was in open, which i assure you i have always viewed this game the same way.
[quote=shocka1][quote=harbleu]thats sad that you refer to yourself as a shitty :( why would you do that? [/quote]
again, you're probably trolling. but if not, I was clearly mocking you.[/quote]
i think we got off on the wrong foot here then if you believe i think anyone not in invite is a shitty. i don't think they're as good as invite players and not as fun to watch because the level of play isn't as high, but i completely respect anybody who plays this game and strides to get better. are you saying our metalworks match vs iT or past lans we've played against iT weren't some of the best games of TF2 ever?
[quote=shocka1]As you can see, this is a community based game. We all support each other. We are supposed to help each other in every way we can, whether it's casts/donations/websites/sizzlingstats/etc...And you are not being cooperative by trying to segregate Invite. [/quote]
i'm in no way trying to segregate this game. what the hell are you talking about? some of you are basically sticking fingers in you ears and chanting malware, which in 0 ways affected you and are trying to switch over to a league that has 0 foundation in place to support the entire NA scene. im willing to switch if its the best for tf2, but the fact that nahanni has announced she has no intention of replacing esea should make you second guess your whole goals.
[quote=shocka1]Get off your high horse and realize that some of us paid for you to get on that horse to begin with...[/quote]
nobody every paid me to get good at this game. there are plenty of hobbies i could have invested my time into to get better at, i chose tf2 because it was the most fun to me. the fact that you are trying to act like people paid me to put in hours of practice a day to get to where im at is a fucking joke.
[quote=shocka1]the analogy was regarding people donating to invite in any way, shape or form. that comment wasn't specific to harbleau... wait, why am I explaining this to you to begin with. troll[/quote]
ah, now i see what you were trying to say. you just did a bad job at expressing it clearly. i have always given thanks to anybody in the community that has donated to the game. the fact that the community was able to send 2 teams to i46 and HRG to i49 is amazing. i have always taken pride that our team rarely asks for money, the last time i think we did was back on flow s11 when brad really came up with the donation strategy. i've always stated that people can chose what they want to donate to, nobody is forcing them to help teams attend lan. but the fact is a lot of people love watching lan matches and love seeing the competition so they're willing to pitch in. again you keep trying to make it seem like i look down on lower skilled players but that is completely the opposite. i started back in ugc and know what its like playing through it, i hope some day to see many of those players currently in ugc make it to invite and compete at the top. people play the game for different reasons, some play just for fun and don't care about increasing in skill level, i understand that. i had the most fun getting better and playing against better competition.
harbleuthat in no way ties skill increase to condensation
the evaporative properties of invite
[quote=harbleu]that in no way ties skill increase to condensation[/quote]
the evaporative properties of invite
the evaporative properties of invite
harbleuyou didn't correlate that at all though, you just said i was bad at being humble. that in no way ties skill increase to condensation, and neither did any of your earlier posts either...
...i think we got off on the wrong foot here then if you believe i think anyone not in invite is a shitty. i don't think they're as good as invite players and not as fun to watch because the level of play isn't as high, but i completely respect anybody who plays this game and strides to get better. are you saying our metalworks match vs iT or past lans we've played against iT weren't some of the best games of TF2 ever?
gosh damn i love your posts harb. the more skills you have, the more water forms around your ass in your seat, but oh, oh, watch out for the neither either as well! it'll getcha every time as you stride your way to a better you.
i'm so happy i got to read that. :>
[quote=harbleu]you didn't correlate that at all though, you just said i was bad at being humble. that in no way ties skill increase to condensation, and neither did any of your earlier posts either...
...i think we got off on the wrong foot here then if you believe i think anyone not in invite is a shitty. i don't think they're as good as invite players and not as fun to watch because the level of play isn't as high, but i completely respect anybody who plays this game and strides to get better. are you saying our metalworks match vs iT or past lans we've played against iT weren't some of the best games of TF2 ever? [/quote]
gosh damn i love your posts harb. the more skills you have, the more water forms around your ass in your seat, but oh, oh, watch out for the neither either as well! it'll getcha every time as you stride your way to a better you.
i'm so happy i got to read that. :>
...i think we got off on the wrong foot here then if you believe i think anyone not in invite is a shitty. i don't think they're as good as invite players and not as fun to watch because the level of play isn't as high, but i completely respect anybody who plays this game and strides to get better. are you saying our metalworks match vs iT or past lans we've played against iT weren't some of the best games of TF2 ever? [/quote]
gosh damn i love your posts harb. the more skills you have, the more water forms around your ass in your seat, but oh, oh, watch out for the neither either as well! it'll getcha every time as you stride your way to a better you.
i'm so happy i got to read that. :>
MR_SLINThe only reasons to stay with ESEA is because:
1. You want their league support (stats/match scheduling/pugs/scrim servers/forums/admins/support)
You're delusional
[quote=MR_SLIN]
The only reasons to stay with ESEA is because:
1. You want their league support (stats/match scheduling/[b]pugs/scrim servers/forums/admins/support[/b])
[/quote]
You're delusional
The only reasons to stay with ESEA is because:
1. You want their league support (stats/match scheduling/[b]pugs/scrim servers/forums/admins/support[/b])
[/quote]
You're delusional
hookyLANs can get DDoSed too, unless you don't have the venue connected to the internet. ESEA LAN is, as Killing wouldn't have to tell everyone to sign off of friends before matches.
what?
killing tells you to sign off friends because they don't have a delay on the stv and they don't want your friends to msg you with secrets (they have a spy! they're running kritz!)
if you think your router is going to get flooded by a ddos attack to the extent that it brings down your gigabit lan then you have an incredible amount of faith in a hotel's shitty 10mbit downstream circuit
[quote=hooky]LANs can get DDoSed too, unless you don't have the venue connected to the internet. ESEA LAN is, as Killing wouldn't have to tell everyone to sign off of friends before matches.[/quote]
what?
killing tells you to sign off friends because they don't have a delay on the stv and they don't want your friends to msg you with secrets (they have a spy! they're running kritz!)
if you think your router is going to get flooded by a ddos attack to the extent that it brings down your gigabit lan then you have an incredible amount of faith in a hotel's shitty 10mbit downstream circuit
what?
killing tells you to sign off friends because they don't have a delay on the stv and they don't want your friends to msg you with secrets (they have a spy! they're running kritz!)
if you think your router is going to get flooded by a ddos attack to the extent that it brings down your gigabit lan then you have an incredible amount of faith in a hotel's shitty 10mbit downstream circuit
Rank[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/tITaD.jpg[/IMG]
Who put holes in my cowbell?
[quote=Rank][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/tITaD.jpg[/IMG][/quote]
Who put holes in my cowbell?
Who put holes in my cowbell?
So um, when's the part where we actually play some TF2?
So um, when's the part where we actually play some TF2?
is there a clear transition plan in place as well as a future development plan for the community that will satisfy all our wants and needs? like servers, lan, etc
is there a clear transition plan in place as well as a future development plan for the community that will satisfy all our wants and needs? like servers, lan, etc
MR_SLINTrying to have a civilized conversation about this topic that I care so much about and it just got very hostile. I'm sorry that it got this far but I hope you realize that this discussion is not personal. I really do feel like there is a lot at stake here and I am not just going to go along with everyone else when I think something is up.
***
So why ESEA, and why was I pushing for a LAN so hard?
A lot of you guys probably don't understand this, so maybe I'll put it in MMO terms -- if your entire TF2 experience is like leveling up and you reach max level, what is there left to do? Yeah it's nice to say you're Invite but who really cares at that point. Now you're Invite and there's nowhere left to go. No reason to put in the extra hours to grind through those losses against every other Invite team who is better than you simply because "it's fun". Trust me. You need this end game. You need this incentive for the Invite players. Every MMO that I have ever played that has no end game has died a painful death.
LAN isn't essential to playing the game but enough of us care about it to the point where I don't think we should take what ESEA is giving us for granted. They give us 3 LANs per year that our entire community can come around to watch and appreciate. If CEVO can put one on that is fine but I think it's a long ways down the road and we should be grateful for what we have now. It's not even like ESEA is some dead-end road for TF2. If we back it as a community and continue to see it grow we can expand the ESEA-Invite LAN like they do for the other games and eventually send even more players, and I think that that would be awesome. Don't you?
[edited for length]
You didn't seriously compare the life and endgame of MMO's to the competitive scene in TF2, did you? You can't say there is nothing for you to do in a competitive game, regardless of how good you are. There is always room for improvement in any area. You can always get better aim, you can have different strategies for certain situations, you can have better teamwork/coordination. If you get burnt out after playing for a long time, though, that's when the incentive to improve (and play, for that matter) falls off. For example, as I've said on many occasions, we've been playing together in iM for nearly 4 years now. With very little to no breaks, we've been pretty burnt out for a few months now, and TF2 doesn't consist of improving at the moment, instead it's rather "here's hoping we don't lose".
I've heard TF2 compared to some funny stuff, but comparing it to MMO's is definitely a first (read: it's not a very good comparison!)
[quote=MR_SLIN]Trying to have a civilized conversation about this topic that I care so much about and it just got very hostile. I'm sorry that it got this far but I hope you realize that this discussion is not personal. I really do feel like there is a lot at stake here and I am not just going to go along with everyone else when I think something is up.
[b]***[/b]
So why ESEA, and why was I pushing for a LAN so hard?
A lot of you guys probably don't understand this, so maybe I'll put it in MMO terms -- if your entire TF2 experience is like leveling up and you reach max level, what is there left to do? Yeah it's nice to say you're Invite but who really cares at that point. Now you're Invite and there's nowhere left to go. No reason to put in the extra hours to grind through those losses against every other Invite team who is better than you simply because "it's fun". Trust me. You need this end game. You need this incentive for the Invite players. Every MMO that I have ever played that has no end game has died a painful death.
LAN isn't essential to playing the game but enough of us care about it to the point where I don't think we should take what ESEA is giving us for granted. They give us 3 LANs per year that our entire community can come around to watch and appreciate. If CEVO can put one on that is fine but I think it's a long ways down the road and we should be grateful for what we have now. It's not even like ESEA is some dead-end road for TF2. If we back it as a community and continue to see it grow we can expand the ESEA-Invite LAN like they do for the other games and eventually send even more players, and I think that that would be awesome. Don't you?
[edited for length][/quote]
You didn't seriously compare the life and endgame of MMO's to the competitive scene in TF2, did you? You can't say there is nothing for you to do in a competitive game, regardless of how good you are. There is always room for improvement in any area. You can always get better aim, you can have different strategies for certain situations, you can have better teamwork/coordination. If you get burnt out after playing for a long time, though, that's when the incentive to improve (and play, for that matter) falls off. For example, as I've said on many occasions, we've been playing together in iM for nearly 4 years now. With very little to no breaks, we've been pretty burnt out for a few months now, and TF2 doesn't consist of improving at the moment, instead it's rather "here's hoping we don't lose".
I've heard TF2 compared to some funny stuff, but comparing it to MMO's is definitely a first (read: it's not a very good comparison!)
[b]***[/b]
So why ESEA, and why was I pushing for a LAN so hard?
A lot of you guys probably don't understand this, so maybe I'll put it in MMO terms -- if your entire TF2 experience is like leveling up and you reach max level, what is there left to do? Yeah it's nice to say you're Invite but who really cares at that point. Now you're Invite and there's nowhere left to go. No reason to put in the extra hours to grind through those losses against every other Invite team who is better than you simply because "it's fun". Trust me. You need this end game. You need this incentive for the Invite players. Every MMO that I have ever played that has no end game has died a painful death.
LAN isn't essential to playing the game but enough of us care about it to the point where I don't think we should take what ESEA is giving us for granted. They give us 3 LANs per year that our entire community can come around to watch and appreciate. If CEVO can put one on that is fine but I think it's a long ways down the road and we should be grateful for what we have now. It's not even like ESEA is some dead-end road for TF2. If we back it as a community and continue to see it grow we can expand the ESEA-Invite LAN like they do for the other games and eventually send even more players, and I think that that would be awesome. Don't you?
[edited for length][/quote]
You didn't seriously compare the life and endgame of MMO's to the competitive scene in TF2, did you? You can't say there is nothing for you to do in a competitive game, regardless of how good you are. There is always room for improvement in any area. You can always get better aim, you can have different strategies for certain situations, you can have better teamwork/coordination. If you get burnt out after playing for a long time, though, that's when the incentive to improve (and play, for that matter) falls off. For example, as I've said on many occasions, we've been playing together in iM for nearly 4 years now. With very little to no breaks, we've been pretty burnt out for a few months now, and TF2 doesn't consist of improving at the moment, instead it's rather "here's hoping we don't lose".
I've heard TF2 compared to some funny stuff, but comparing it to MMO's is definitely a first (read: it's not a very good comparison!)
From all this drama, I haven't learned much about whether it's best to stay with ESEA or not, whether lan is necessary, or whatever.
What I have learned is that a lot of TF2 players have terrible verbal reasoning skills. Comparing a competitive videogame league to a girlfriend? What?
From all this drama, I haven't learned much about whether it's best to stay with ESEA or not, whether lan is necessary, or whatever.
What I have learned is that a lot of TF2 players have [i]terrible[/i] verbal reasoning skills. Comparing a competitive videogame league to a girlfriend? What?
What I have learned is that a lot of TF2 players have [i]terrible[/i] verbal reasoning skills. Comparing a competitive videogame league to a girlfriend? What?
There are two types of TF2 analogies. My analogies that I put 0 effort and thought into because im out in the real world living the yolo life, and yours that you spend every waking moment on because you have no real life obligations
There are two types of TF2 analogies. My analogies that I put 0 effort and thought into because im out in the real world living the yolo life, and yours that you spend every waking moment on because you have no real life obligations
Aoshima
idk dude i've learned a whole bunch about either side of the argument
[quote=Aoshima][/quote]
idk dude i've learned a whole bunch about either side of the argument
idk dude i've learned a whole bunch about either side of the argument
hello old friends. i just spent the last 4 or 5 hours reading up on this drama and kind of want to take a hammer and pop lpkane's hands like balloons. it also makes sense why my newly replaced video card died last year, luckily it was under warranty.
i'm speaking as a father figure to some of the people in the thread here, a metaphorical tf2 father who pulled your slimy fluid covered ass out of the vagina and into the bright and scary world and slapped you on the ass and you started screaming and crying wahhhhhh
please do not play in esea again after this season. please have enough respect for yourself as a human being that exists outside of the internet, games, and unreal communities. thanks.
hello old friends. i just spent the last 4 or 5 hours reading up on this drama and kind of want to take a hammer and pop lpkane's hands like balloons. it also makes sense why my newly replaced video card died last year, luckily it was under warranty.
i'm speaking as a father figure to some of the people in the thread here, a metaphorical tf2 father who pulled your slimy fluid covered ass out of the vagina and into the bright and scary world and slapped you on the ass and you started screaming and crying wahhhhhh
please do not play in esea again after this season. please have enough respect for yourself as a human being that exists outside of the internet, games, and unreal communities. thanks.
i'm speaking as a father figure to some of the people in the thread here, a metaphorical tf2 father who pulled your slimy fluid covered ass out of the vagina and into the bright and scary world and slapped you on the ass and you started screaming and crying wahhhhhh
please do not play in esea again after this season. please have enough respect for yourself as a human being that exists outside of the internet, games, and unreal communities. thanks.
Seems to me the only reason people are sticking up for ESEA is that it's the only LAN in town.
Why don't we just make our own league and then have the LAN be the i-series LAN? League fees minus expenses goes to the 10,800 tickets with the remainder getting raised by the community if not enough.
You'll always get competition. And since it's only one spot there won't be any dicking around if there's only 2 good teams, they each will want to have the flawless record to challenge for the LAN spot.
Plus the LAN will be an amazing experience (practically everyone who's gone has said it's an awesome event) and it almost doesn't matter where you place.
Sure you only have 1 LAN per year, but it's a much, much bigger LAN with the chance to fight the world's best, and not just 1 or 2 other teams (there have been at max 3 teams each season that can challenge for number 1).
It doesn't really matter for the rest of the divisions because they don't get LAN anyway and the prize pool is pretty small regardless.
And if you really want to have 2 seasons per year then maybe make 1 the seeding season where your team gets ranked and the next season is the LAN season for invite. Teams with stable rosters gets precedence over teams with significant roster changes, encouraging teams to have continuity throughout at least 2 seasons. Maybe have the proceeds of the seeding season go to a prizepool and the fundraising for the LAN season so you're raising the 10k over 2 seasons and have a comparable prize pool to ESEA for the smaller teams.
It just doesn't make sense to drag everyone through what is plainly a broken organiszation just because the top of invite desperately wants 2 LANs and maybe a third through community donations.
Seems to me the only reason people are sticking up for ESEA is that it's the only LAN in town.
Why don't we just make our own league and then have the LAN be the i-series LAN? League fees minus expenses goes to the 10,800 tickets with the remainder getting raised by the community if not enough.
You'll always get competition. And since it's only one spot there won't be any dicking around if there's only 2 good teams, they each will want to have the flawless record to challenge for the LAN spot.
Plus the LAN will be an amazing experience (practically everyone who's gone has said it's an awesome event) and it [i]almost[/i] doesn't matter where you place.
Sure you only have 1 LAN per year, but it's a much, much bigger LAN with the chance to fight the world's best, and not just 1 or 2 other teams (there have been at max 3 teams each season that can challenge for number 1).
It doesn't really matter for the rest of the divisions because they don't get LAN anyway and the prize pool is pretty small regardless.
And if you really want to have 2 seasons per year then maybe make 1 the seeding season where your team gets ranked and the next season is the LAN season for invite. Teams with stable rosters gets precedence over teams with significant roster changes, encouraging teams to have continuity throughout at least 2 seasons. Maybe have the proceeds of the seeding season go to a prizepool and the fundraising for the LAN season so you're raising the 10k over 2 seasons and have a comparable prize pool to ESEA for the smaller teams.
It just doesn't make sense to drag everyone through what is plainly a broken organiszation just because the top of invite desperately wants 2 LANs and maybe a third through community donations.
Why don't we just make our own league and then have the LAN be the i-series LAN? League fees minus expenses goes to the 10,800 tickets with the remainder getting raised by the community if not enough.
You'll always get competition. And since it's only one spot there won't be any dicking around if there's only 2 good teams, they each will want to have the flawless record to challenge for the LAN spot.
Plus the LAN will be an amazing experience (practically everyone who's gone has said it's an awesome event) and it [i]almost[/i] doesn't matter where you place.
Sure you only have 1 LAN per year, but it's a much, much bigger LAN with the chance to fight the world's best, and not just 1 or 2 other teams (there have been at max 3 teams each season that can challenge for number 1).
It doesn't really matter for the rest of the divisions because they don't get LAN anyway and the prize pool is pretty small regardless.
And if you really want to have 2 seasons per year then maybe make 1 the seeding season where your team gets ranked and the next season is the LAN season for invite. Teams with stable rosters gets precedence over teams with significant roster changes, encouraging teams to have continuity throughout at least 2 seasons. Maybe have the proceeds of the seeding season go to a prizepool and the fundraising for the LAN season so you're raising the 10k over 2 seasons and have a comparable prize pool to ESEA for the smaller teams.
It just doesn't make sense to drag everyone through what is plainly a broken organiszation just because the top of invite desperately wants 2 LANs and maybe a third through community donations.
tracedi'm speaking as a father figure to some of the people in the thread here, a metaphorical tf2 father who pulled your slimy fluid covered ass out of the vagina and into the bright and scary world and slapped you on the ass and you started screaming and crying wahhhhhh
wait hold up wtf
[quote=traced]i'm speaking as a father figure to some of the people in the thread here, a metaphorical tf2 father who pulled your slimy fluid covered ass out of the vagina and into the bright and scary world and slapped you on the ass and you started screaming and crying wahhhhhh[/quote]
wait hold up wtf
wait hold up wtf
guys im too busy having a life to care are u jealous yet
guys im too busy having a life to care are u jealous yet
MAYBNE IF I AGGRESSIVELY DEFLECT AGAINST THE ESEA DEFLECTORS ENOUGH PEOPLE WILL DEFLECT AGAINST DEFLECTING AGAINST ME JUST BECAUSE ITS COOOL TO DO
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MAYBNE IF I AGGRESSIVELY DEFLECT AGAINST THE ESEA DEFLECTORS ENOUGH PEOPLE WILL DEFLECT AGAINST DEFLECTING AGAINST ME JUST BECAUSE ITS COOOL TO DO
SURVERY SAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYS?
I WIN AGAIN
SURVERY SAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYS?
I WIN AGAIN
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