thesupremecommanderHe's not even close, according to what he's told me, and he hasn't even seen a dime of Twitch money as they have 45 days after a month ends to send him a check, and it's only been about 30 since he started.
Given that, and all of what's happened in the past three days, he decided it simply wasn't worth it.
How's that making any sense? You go through a dry spell but assuming you are generating the same revenue each month, after the initial delay it will come through consistently...
[quote=thesupremecommander]
He's not even close, according to what he's told me, and he hasn't even seen a dime of Twitch money as they have 45 days after a month ends to send him a check, and it's only been about 30 since he started.
Given that, and all of what's happened in the past three days, he decided it simply wasn't worth it.[/quote]
How's that making any sense? You go through a dry spell but assuming you are generating the same revenue each month, after the initial delay it will come through consistently...
FogWhen you're as visible as ruwin is/was, you need to hold yourself to a higher standard when presenting yourself in a public manner such as streaming on Twitch. You also need to expect that everything you do is watched under a microscope, and you WILL be scrutinized no matter what you say or do.
Unless Ruwin is under contract/sponsored and is being paid, I'm pretty sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He doesn't NEED to do anything.
[quote=Fog]When you're as visible as ruwin is/was, you need to hold yourself to a higher standard when presenting yourself in a public manner such as streaming on Twitch. You also need to expect that everything you do is watched under a microscope, and you WILL be scrutinized no matter what you say or do.[/quote]
Unless Ruwin is under contract/sponsored and is being paid, I'm pretty sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He doesn't NEED to do anything.
pulpfixionFogWhen you're as visible as ruwin is/was, you need to hold yourself to a higher standard when presenting yourself in a public manner such as streaming on Twitch. You also need to expect that everything you do is watched under a microscope, and you WILL be scrutinized no matter what you say or do.
Unless Ruwin is under contract/sponsored and is being paid, I'm pretty sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He doesn't NEED to do anything.
I think being partnered by Twitch is considered being paid, don't you think?
[quote=pulpfixion][quote=Fog]When you're as visible as ruwin is/was, you need to hold yourself to a higher standard when presenting yourself in a public manner such as streaming on Twitch. You also need to expect that everything you do is watched under a microscope, and you WILL be scrutinized no matter what you say or do.[/quote]
Unless Ruwin is under contract/sponsored and is being paid, I'm pretty sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He doesn't NEED to do anything.[/quote] I think being partnered by Twitch is considered being paid, don't you think?
kaidusthesupremecommanderHe's not even close, according to what he's told me, and he hasn't even seen a dime of Twitch money as they have 45 days after a month ends to send him a check, and it's only been about 30 since he started.
Given that, and all of what's happened in the past three days, he decided it simply wasn't worth it.
How's that making any sense? You go through a dry spell but assuming you are generating the same revenue each month, after the initial delay it will come through consistently...
Well, he doesn't even make enough as it stands, regardless of timing. Also, while the timing doesn't make a difference in the long run, it does make a difference that all this happens before he's gotten some cold hard cash for his work yet.
[quote=kaidus][quote=thesupremecommander]
He's not even close, according to what he's told me, and he hasn't even seen a dime of Twitch money as they have 45 days after a month ends to send him a check, and it's only been about 30 since he started.
Given that, and all of what's happened in the past three days, he decided it simply wasn't worth it.[/quote]
How's that making any sense? You go through a dry spell but assuming you are generating the same revenue each month, after the initial delay it will come through consistently...[/quote]
Well, he doesn't even make enough as it stands, regardless of timing. Also, while the timing doesn't make a difference in the long run, it does make a difference that all this happens before he's gotten some cold hard cash for his work yet.
FogpulpfixionFogWhen you're as visible as ruwin is/was, you need to hold yourself to a higher standard when presenting yourself in a public manner such as streaming on Twitch. You also need to expect that everything you do is watched under a microscope, and you WILL be scrutinized no matter what you say or do.
Unless Ruwin is under contract/sponsored and is being paid, I'm pretty sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He doesn't NEED to do anything.
I think being partnered by Twitch is considered being paid, don't you think?
No it Isn't, he get's paid based upon how many viewers he brings, If he brings none he doesn't get paid. Twitch is an avenue in which he can pay himself. It's way different then being under contract and getting a salary. Plus twitch can terminate his account any time they wish.
[quote=Fog][quote=pulpfixion][quote=Fog]When you're as visible as ruwin is/was, you need to hold yourself to a higher standard when presenting yourself in a public manner such as streaming on Twitch. You also need to expect that everything you do is watched under a microscope, and you WILL be scrutinized no matter what you say or do.[/quote]
Unless Ruwin is under contract/sponsored and is being paid, I'm pretty sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He doesn't NEED to do anything.[/quote] I think being partnered by Twitch is considered being paid, don't you think?[/quote]
No it Isn't, he get's paid based upon how many viewers he brings, If he brings none he doesn't get paid. Twitch is an avenue in which he can pay himself. It's way different then being under contract and getting a salary. Plus twitch can terminate his account any time they wish.
SoapWait, you people are mad because he called a girl fat and posted a picture? Is this real?
I would imagine the reason why ruwin gets 50x more viewers than most of the people on this forum is because he actually says those things.
No, any idiot can make a stream and trashtalk people, don't mean they are popular. Ruwin was popular because he was a great gamer, a decent human being and an entertaining guy.
Whole thing is much ado about nothing really, who here honestly hasn't picked the first negative thing they can say about someone and said it at a time they are feeling angry towards somebody? If the person who has hurt you happens to be fat, you call them "Fat Bitch" in the heat of the moment. If the person happens to be unemployed, you'd call them a "lazy bitch". If the person hasn't combed/brushed there hair you'll call them a "Scruffy Bitch". It isn't like I have never been attracted to someone fat, or that people I love most of all are overweight. It isn't like I wasn't once unemployed for nearly a year and extremely lazy and it isn't like I never get up one morning and can't be bothered to comb my hair (all the time).
It's human nature to pick up things on people who you are upset with for things society perceives as undesirable to emphasise the point you are pissed off at them. I mean ultimately it's stupid logic, I used to be mocked for having acne by a kid with cross eyes when I was younger, in the heat of adolescent pride I told him to "look me in the eye and say it". It's stupid, but if you're angry you can react irrationally.
People are hypocrites, people are sensitive about certain things other people are not and people have different expectations and views on what is acceptable and what isn't. And more than anything, people forget and forgive over time because there are much worse things in the world than calling someone fat on the internet.
I hope Ruwin continues to stream, simple apology if he offended people and hey most people will be satisfied, and we can all move on and play games.
[quote=Soap]Wait, you people are mad because he called a girl fat and posted a picture? Is this real?
I would imagine the reason why ruwin gets 50x more viewers than most of the people on this forum is because he actually says those things.[/quote]
No, any idiot can make a stream and trashtalk people, don't mean they are popular. Ruwin was popular because he was a great gamer, a decent human being and an entertaining guy.
Whole thing is much ado about nothing really, who here honestly hasn't picked the first negative thing they can say about someone and said it at a time they are feeling angry towards somebody? If the person who has hurt you happens to be fat, you call them "Fat Bitch" in the heat of the moment. If the person happens to be unemployed, you'd call them a "lazy bitch". If the person hasn't combed/brushed there hair you'll call them a "Scruffy Bitch". It isn't like I have never been attracted to someone fat, or that people I love most of all are overweight. It isn't like I wasn't once unemployed for nearly a year and extremely lazy and it isn't like I never get up one morning and can't be bothered to comb my hair (all the time).
It's human nature to pick up things on people who you are upset with for things society perceives as undesirable to emphasise the point you are pissed off at them. I mean ultimately it's stupid logic, I used to be mocked for having acne by a kid with cross eyes when I was younger, in the heat of adolescent pride I told him to "look me in the eye and say it". It's stupid, but if you're angry you can react irrationally.
People are hypocrites, people are sensitive about certain things other people are not and people have different expectations and views on what is acceptable and what isn't. And more than anything, people forget and forgive over time because there are much worse things in the world than calling someone fat on the internet.
I hope Ruwin continues to stream, simple apology if he offended people and hey most people will be satisfied, and we can all move on and play games.
Ok, so, Ruwin got cut from his team, was upset and made fun of some not-really-all-that-chubby girl, got called out on being a dick so he lost his shit and quit the internet forever.
Dumb. Gotcha.
But the big question remains: WHO SHALL RULE THE TOP OF THE TFTV STREAM LIST NOW?
Ok, so, Ruwin got cut from his team, was upset and made fun of some not-really-all-that-chubby girl, got called out on being a dick so he lost his shit and quit the internet forever.
Dumb. Gotcha.
But the big question remains: WHO SHALL RULE THE TOP OF THE TFTV STREAM LIST NOW?
pulpfixionFogpulpfixionFogWhen you're as visible as ruwin is/was, you need to hold yourself to a higher standard when presenting yourself in a public manner such as streaming on Twitch. You also need to expect that everything you do is watched under a microscope, and you WILL be scrutinized no matter what you say or do.
Unless Ruwin is under contract/sponsored and is being paid, I'm pretty sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He doesn't NEED to do anything.
I think being partnered by Twitch is considered being paid, don't you think?
No it Isn't, he get's paid based upon how many viewers he brings, If he brings none he doesn't get paid. Twitch is an avenue in which he can pay himself. It's way different then being under contract and getting a salary. Plus twitch can terminate his account any time they wish.
Being under a contract != getting a salary.
When you're partnered by Twitch, you're under a contract and they can terminate your partnership and your account if you don't follow their rules.
[quote=pulpfixion][quote=Fog][quote=pulpfixion][quote=Fog]When you're as visible as ruwin is/was, you need to hold yourself to a higher standard when presenting yourself in a public manner such as streaming on Twitch. You also need to expect that everything you do is watched under a microscope, and you WILL be scrutinized no matter what you say or do.[/quote]
Unless Ruwin is under contract/sponsored and is being paid, I'm pretty sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He doesn't NEED to do anything.[/quote] I think being partnered by Twitch is considered being paid, don't you think?[/quote]
No it Isn't, he get's paid based upon how many viewers he brings, If he brings none he doesn't get paid. Twitch is an avenue in which he can pay himself. It's way different then being under contract and getting a salary. Plus twitch can terminate his account any time they wish.[/quote] Being under a contract != getting a salary.
When you're partnered by Twitch, you're under a contract and they can terminate your partnership and your account if you don't follow their rules.
can someone link the evidence of ruwin calling this girl fat
there's been like 80 different accounts so far so it might be illuminating if the forum lawyers were briefed with the evidence before executing the witness
can someone link the evidence of ruwin calling this girl fat
there's been like 80 different accounts so far so it might be illuminating if the forum lawyers were briefed with the evidence before executing the witness
HildrethIf the person hasn't combed/brushed there hair you'll call them a "Scruffy Bitch"
lol
anyways i told my mom what happened and she said:
"robust?? like the taste of coffee or something??"
I said "uhhh i guess", and my mom replied "well, at least he didn't say anything mean like 'she looks like 200 pounds of shit stuffed into a 50 pound bag.'"
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[quote=Hildreth]If the person hasn't combed/brushed there hair you'll call them a "Scruffy Bitch"[/quote]
lol
anyways i told my mom what happened and she said:
"robust?? like the taste of coffee or something??"
I said "uhhh i guess", and my mom replied "well, at least he didn't say anything mean like 'she looks like 200 pounds of shit stuffed into a 50 pound bag.'"
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I think some people are missing the point. Of those 300 people watching his stream, is it possible a few of them looked just like the girl he was insulting?
Trash talking with your small group of friends may be ok, but consider one of your friends does have a weight problem that isn't easy to deal with, would you still be as insensitive all the time?
To me it just looked bad for ruwin as he was calling out a girl that wouldn't give him the time of day in high school. So it seemed very spiteful and classless, like "look at this bullet I dodged" as if he had a choice...
Older people like myself understand that people do gain weight as they get older and not everyone has the time or priority to keep as fit as a teenage mutant ninja turtle. The girl you marry may put on weight at times and if someone called her fat, you would face smash them for it. Girls fill out quicker than guys because they go through puberty earlier and don't have the testosterone we have pushing us all the time.
I think some people are missing the point. Of those 300 people watching his stream, is it possible a few of them looked just like the girl he was insulting?
Trash talking with your small group of friends may be ok, but consider one of your friends does have a weight problem that isn't easy to deal with, would you still be as insensitive all the time?
To me it just looked bad for ruwin as he was calling out a girl that wouldn't give him the time of day in high school. So it seemed very spiteful and classless, like "look at this bullet I dodged" as if he had a choice...
Older people like myself understand that people do gain weight as they get older and not everyone has the time or priority to keep as fit as a teenage mutant ninja turtle. The girl you marry may put on weight at times and if someone called her fat, you would face smash them for it. Girls fill out quicker than guys because they go through puberty earlier and don't have the testosterone we have pushing us all the time.
pulpfixionUnless Ruwin is under contract/sponsored and is being paid, I'm pretty sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He doesn't NEED to do anything.
pulpfixionPlus twitch can terminate his account any time they wish.
do you even fucking read what you write?
[quote=pulpfixion]Unless Ruwin is under contract/sponsored and is being paid, I'm pretty sure he can do whatever the fuck he wants. He doesn't NEED to do anything.[/quote] [quote=pulpfixion]Plus twitch can terminate his account any time they wish.[/quote] do you even fucking read what you write?
I like my women how I like my coffee...
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robust
My guess is Ruwin will take a few days off, let this nonsense blow over, then come back ready to go again.
I highly doubt he's actually done, but who knows.
My guess is Ruwin will take a few days off, let this nonsense blow over, then come back ready to go again.
I highly doubt he's actually done, but who knows.
honestly, we care that he called a girl fat? have all of you never called anyone fat? all im saying is he who is without sin cast the first stone.
honestly, we care that he called a girl fat? have all of you never called anyone fat? all im saying is he who is without sin cast the first stone.
this nonsense never just "blows over"
this nonsense never just "blows over"
Well he loved attention. God knows he's getting it now.
Well he loved attention. God knows he's getting it now.
Insanityhonestly, we care that he called a girl fat? have all of you never called anyone fat? all im saying is he who is without sin cast the first stone.
straw man
[quote=Insanity]honestly, we care that he called a girl fat? have all of you never called anyone fat? all im saying is he who is without sin cast the first stone.[/quote]
straw man
Insanityhonestly, we care that he called a girl fat? have all of you never called anyone fat? all im saying is he who is without sin cast the first stone.
That's not even the issue though, the issue is how he handled it. Yeah we can all agree it was stupid but if he would've just apologized or even never mentioned it again it would've all been fine. Instead he throws fuel on the fire and comes off as a spoiled child who can dish it out but can't take it. I mean it's easy to say "words are just words and if you're offended then fuck off" but clearly his own detractors have got to him. He even mentions Mangachu insulting him on stream for fuck sake. Why not take your own advice and cool down before streaming a salty tirade?
Anyway I don't even know why I'm posting, its all been said and I have nothing against the guy, its just hard to feel sorry for him when he shoots himself in the foot like this.
[quote=Insanity]honestly, we care that he called a girl fat? have all of you never called anyone fat? all im saying is he who is without sin cast the first stone.[/quote]
That's not even the issue though, the issue is how he handled it. Yeah we can all agree it was stupid but if he would've just apologized or even never mentioned it again it would've all been fine. Instead he throws fuel on the fire and comes off as a spoiled child who can dish it out but can't take it. I mean it's easy to say "words are just words and if you're offended then fuck off" but clearly his own detractors have got to him. He even mentions Mangachu insulting him on stream for fuck sake. Why not take your own advice and cool down before streaming a salty tirade?
Anyway I don't even know why I'm posting, its all been said and I have nothing against the guy, its just hard to feel sorry for him when he shoots himself in the foot like this.
so most of what needs to be said has been said, but dude, if one more person acts like just because some ppl who play this video game say "faggot" and "raped" liberally that our entire community is full of people who aren't offended by anything in the world then i'm gonna lose it. jesus christ.
no community is just one person, or a small group of people. it's such a fallacy to imply that nobody in this community is allowed to feel feelings or be offended by stuff just because some dudes go around acting like "faggot" is a synonym for "person i dislike"
seriously. i mean, fuckin seriously. i'm not even saying that you guys have to feel bad for the girl anymore. now i'm just asking you to be logical enough to understand that your circle of friends who play tf2 saying faggot and nigger does not represent every single individual who considers themselves part of this community.
so most of what needs to be said has been said, but dude, if one more person acts like just because some ppl who play this video game say "faggot" and "raped" liberally that our entire community is full of people who aren't offended by anything in the world then i'm gonna lose it. jesus christ.
no community is just one person, or a small group of people. it's such a fallacy to imply that nobody in this community is allowed to feel feelings or be offended by stuff just because some dudes go around acting like "faggot" is a synonym for "person i dislike"
seriously. i mean, fuckin seriously. i'm not even saying that you guys have to feel bad for the girl anymore. now i'm just asking you to be logical enough to understand that your circle of friends who play tf2 saying faggot and nigger does not represent every single individual who considers themselves part of this community.
obe_so most of what needs to be said has been said, but dude, if one more person acts like just because some ppl who play this video game say "faggot" and "raped" liberally that our entire community is full of people who aren't offended by anything in the world then i'm gonna lose it
how are faggot and raped comparable at all rofl?
[quote=obe_]so most of what needs to be said has been said, but dude, if one more person acts like just because some ppl who play this video game say "faggot" and "raped" liberally that our entire community is full of people who aren't offended by anything in the world then i'm gonna lose it[/quote]
how are faggot and raped comparable at all rofl?
I agree with fog. Regardless if anyone realizes this or not, but if you hold a high position-- whether it is in politics or invite tf2 you are looked up to and held to a higher standard. Simply because you are under a microscope (as some may say) and looked up to by the lower teams/players.
However, there are a ton of politicians/leaders whom I would never agree with or want to follow or emulate. With that said, there will always be those people who will follow you no matter what. Irregardless if you are Ted Bundy or Gandhi.
For me personally, I used to look up to invite players and even afraid to talk to them b/c I was afraid I wasnt 'worthy' to be around them (LOL!). But yeah that's stupid, so now I just see them like everyone else. They f up, I f up. We are all equals, but they are held to a higher standard. All that matters in the end it is your own personal choices and how you see yourself. Everyone should think in that regard, imo. There will always be some person who looks up to you. Make your decisions/actions accordingly.
Just throwing this out there for you current/inspiring to become invite players.
Fog... [E]verything you do is watched under a microscope, and you WILL be scrutinized no matter what you say or do...
I agree with fog. Regardless if anyone realizes this or not, but if you hold a high position-- whether it is in politics or invite tf2 you are looked up to and held to a higher standard. Simply because you are under a microscope (as some may say) and looked up to by the lower teams/players.
However, there are a ton of politicians/leaders whom I would never agree with or want to follow or emulate. With that said, there will always be those people who will follow you no matter what. Irregardless if you are Ted Bundy or Gandhi.
For me personally, I used to look up to invite players and even afraid to talk to them b/c I was afraid I wasnt 'worthy' to be around them (LOL!). But yeah that's stupid, so now I just see them like everyone else. They f up, I f up. We are all equals, but they are held to a higher standard. All that matters in the end it is your own personal choices and how you see yourself. Everyone should think in that regard, imo. There will always be some person who looks up to you. Make your decisions/actions accordingly.
Just throwing this out there for you current/inspiring to become invite players.
[quote=Fog]... [E]verything you do is watched under a microscope, and you WILL be scrutinized no matter what you say or do...[/quote]
Yo, costco sells their footies in like packages of 24 with the buns.
http://i.imgur.com/eLtKUNM.jpg
Yo, costco sells their footies in like packages of 24 with the buns.
[img]http://i.imgur.com/eLtKUNM.jpg[/img]
ARE YOU EATING PINEAPPLE WITH A HOTDOG WITH MUSTARD ON IT?
SHORT PLEASE.
PLEASE
ARE YOU EATING PINEAPPLE WITH A HOTDOG WITH MUSTARD ON IT?
SHORT PLEASE.
PLEASE
everyday in mumble I listen to shrt slurp pineapple juice out of the can.
everyday in mumble I listen to shrt slurp pineapple juice out of the can.
Woooow how do we always manage pages upon pages of people saying the same thing in a circle?
Some people don't care what ruwin said and thinks others are overreacting.
Some people do care what ruwin said and think other are underreacting.
It's really a pretty simple situation. I'm sure ruwin gets which part of his actions were a bit far and which don't really matter. Other than that, if you don't like how he is or think this one tiny incident ruwined him for you, don't watch his stream.
As far as being a twitch partner: if he goes over the line, twitch can pull the deal. That's how it works. If ruwin would rather have no limits on his stream than be partnered with twitch, that's his call (not saying it's that extreme at the moment but if it happened).
Can everyone shut up now so shrt can tell me more about these hot dogs? Like, do they come prepared, ready to heat-and-eat? That simplifies the process at least threefold.
Woooow how do we always manage pages upon pages of people saying the same thing in a circle?
Some people don't care what ruwin said and thinks others are overreacting.
Some people do care what ruwin said and think other are underreacting.
It's really a pretty simple situation. I'm sure ruwin gets which part of his actions were a bit far and which don't really matter. Other than that, if you don't like how he is or think this one tiny incident ruwined him for you, [b]don't watch his stream[/b].
As far as being a twitch partner: if he goes over the line, twitch can pull the deal. That's how it works. If ruwin would rather have no limits on his stream than be partnered with twitch, that's his call (not saying it's that extreme at the moment but if it happened).
Can everyone shut up now so shrt can tell me more about these hot dogs? Like, do they come prepared, ready to heat-and-eat? That simplifies the process at least threefold.
kevARE YOU EATING PINEAPPLE WITH A HOTDOG WITH MUSTARD ON IT?
SHORT PLEASE.
PLEASE
Is that some weird southern person thing? Cause that sounds pretty gross
[quote=kev]ARE YOU EATING PINEAPPLE WITH A HOTDOG WITH MUSTARD ON IT?
SHORT PLEASE.
PLEASE[/quote]
Is that some weird southern person thing? Cause that sounds pretty gross
before, people were bandwagoning ruwin's stream, now everyone is bandwagoning against him
this community is a cesspool of 14 year old autists who just follow whatever trend everyone else does
like jesus christ have your own opinion
before, people were bandwagoning ruwin's stream, now everyone is bandwagoning against him
this community is a cesspool of 14 year old autists who just follow whatever trend everyone else does
like jesus christ have your own opinion
King_GimliAlso that use the term 'Niggers' and use autism and age as an attack. Such a mature community.
for the record I had skipped ahead and hadn't even read this post when I made mine
WELL IM STICKIN TO IT
[quote=King_Gimli]
Also that use the term 'Niggers' and use autism and age as an attack. Such a mature community.[/quote]
for the record I had skipped ahead and hadn't even read this post when I made mine
WELL IM STICKIN TO IT