MasterKuniDrPloxoIt's an excessive ban, it's his call ultimately, but it isn't particularly harmful to have people have rocket jumper.
And it's DM, hp isn't really a thing to be worried about (you get it back as you go and instant respawn), it's hitting shots. So why would it be harmful to get rid of your primary to get better at shotgun aim? You could always whip out the real rocket launcher in a pinch, but that's not the point of it.
When somebody can answer that, I'd fold on it.
It seems to me that the ban stems more from the concern that people can and have used it troll and waste a slot in a dm server.
which is ok because you should probably learn to hit them. And with MG banned, there isn't much reason to even run it beyond that.
[quote=MasterKuni][quote=DrPloxo]It's an excessive ban, it's his call ultimately, but it isn't particularly harmful to have people have rocket jumper.
And it's DM, hp isn't really a thing to be worried about (you get it back as you go and instant respawn), it's hitting shots. So why would it be harmful to get rid of your primary to get better at shotgun aim? You could always whip out the real rocket launcher in a pinch, but that's not the point of it.
When somebody can answer that, I'd fold on it.[/quote]
It seems to me that the ban stems more from the concern that people can and have used it troll and waste a slot in a dm server.[/quote]
which is ok because you should probably learn to hit them. And with MG banned, there isn't much reason to even run it beyond that.
Can we agree to allow sniper on one server at least? I would like the opportunity to snipe in the servers, like the good old days. People who complain about it could play in the 3 other servers, so I do not see it as a very crippling factor.
Can we agree to allow sniper on one server at least? I would like the opportunity to snipe in the servers, like the good old days. People who complain about it could play in the 3 other servers, so I do not see it as a very crippling factor.
safrixthorn_Can we agree to allow sniper on one server at least? I would like the opportunity to snipe in the servers, like the good old days. People who complain about it could play in the 3 other servers, so I do not see it as a very crippling factor.
there are esea whitelist/sniper servers
no one plays on them though
That's why I posted here, because people actually play on the TF.TV DM servers.
[quote=safrix][quote=thorn_]Can we agree to allow sniper on one server at least? I would like the opportunity to snipe in the servers, like the good old days. People who complain about it could play in the 3 other servers, so I do not see it as a very crippling factor.[/quote]
there are esea whitelist/sniper servers
no one plays on them though[/quote]
That's why I posted here, because people actually play on the TF.TV DM servers.
DM is what I mostly do when I load up TF2 whenever I can and I look forward to playing on these servers. Thanks for banning MG lol.
DM is what I mostly do when I load up TF2 whenever I can and I look forward to playing on these servers. Thanks for banning MG lol.
safrixthorn_safrixthorn_Can we agree to allow sniper on one server at least? I would like the opportunity to snipe in the servers, like the good old days. People who complain about it could play in the 3 other servers, so I do not see it as a very crippling factor.
there are esea whitelist/sniper servers
no one plays on them though
That's why I posted here, because people actually play on the TF.TV DM servers.
http://i.imgur.com/gnQEGcf.png
Yeah I don't think that some people know that there are other servers for DM but I'll let you know that there are a total of 6 DM servers. Two of them where they are with the ESEA white-list and allow you to play sniper (one per team). Only registers headshots so whenever you bodyshot, it won't do any damage.
[quote=safrix][quote=thorn_][quote=safrix][quote=thorn_]Can we agree to allow sniper on one server at least? I would like the opportunity to snipe in the servers, like the good old days. People who complain about it could play in the 3 other servers, so I do not see it as a very crippling factor.[/quote]
there are esea whitelist/sniper servers
no one plays on them though[/quote]
That's why I posted here, because people actually play on the TF.TV DM servers.[/quote]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/gnQEGcf.png[/img][/quote]
Yeah I don't think that some people know that there are other servers for DM but I'll let you know that there are a total of 6 DM servers. Two of them where they are with the ESEA white-list and allow you to play sniper (one per team). Only registers headshots so whenever you bodyshot, it won't do any damage.
Or you could just try and populate one of the servers that already exists for it because I'm pretty sure the majority of people that play on the normal DM servers don't want snipers and changing one of the more populated servers to one that allows certain weapons/snipers would make those people not want to play there.
thorn_Also, you should not ban bodyshots, that is just silly. I don't know how anyone can complain about being killed by snipers in DM while the entire DM session is filled with the whole team massacring the sniper while he is scoped. At least allowing bodyshots make it possible to headshot + noscope the soldiers and demomen.
#DMSniperProblems
Or you could just try and populate one of the servers that already exists for it because I'm pretty sure the majority of people that play on the normal DM servers don't want snipers and changing one of the more populated servers to one that allows certain weapons/snipers would make those people not want to play there.
[quote=thorn_]Also, you should not ban bodyshots, that is just silly. I don't know how anyone can complain about being killed by snipers in DM while the entire DM session is filled with the whole team massacring the sniper while he is scoped. At least allowing bodyshots make it possible to headshot + noscope the soldiers and demomen.[/quote]
#DMSniperProblems
What if we added health regen when you kill someone that way you can still practice your shotgun with stock launcher
What if we added health regen when you kill someone that way you can still practice your shotgun with stock launcher
AllealWhat if we added health regen when you kill someone that way you can still practice your shotgun with stock launcher
That already exists.
[quote=Alleal]What if we added health regen when you kill someone that way you can still practice your shotgun with stock launcher[/quote]
That already exists.
the banned bodyshots on esea whitelist dm is a joke it makes it so u cant taunt kill with huntsman(huntman being allowed in dm is also a joke)
it should be made like that one euro server where there are only headshots allowed but a headshot does a billion damage
the banned bodyshots on esea whitelist dm is a joke it makes it so u cant taunt kill with huntsman(huntman being allowed in dm is also a joke)
it should be made like that one euro server where there are only headshots allowed but a headshot does a billion damage
thorn_MunchAllealWhat if we added health regen when you kill someone that way you can still practice your shotgun with stock launcher
That already exists.
Not much goes over your head, huh?
I know you're upset because no one wants to play in the servers that let them get sniped from halfway across the map while fighting someone else, but maybe if you put in just a little bit of effort you could probably get a few people in there to play with you, maybe. DM servers usually fill up pretty fast when there's at least 2 people in there.
[quote=thorn_][quote=Munch][quote=Alleal]What if we added health regen when you kill someone that way you can still practice your shotgun with stock launcher[/quote]
That already exists.[/quote]
Not much goes over your head, huh?[/quote]
I know you're upset because no one wants to play in the servers that let them get sniped from halfway across the map while fighting someone else, but maybe if you put in just a little bit of effort you could probably get a few people in there to play with you, maybe. DM servers usually fill up pretty fast when there's at least 2 people in there.
Can we unban Heavy while we're at it?
Can we unban Heavy while we're at it?
thank you sal- for the dm servers and the maintenance of them!
thank you sal- for the dm servers and the maintenance of them!
Just a reminder that there is a Servers tab on TFTV that has a bunch of servers related to comp, including all 6 DM servers by -Sal. I really like sitting on that page to look for an active DM server (since it's sorted by number of active players). I think the actual player count is more accurate than the "Updated" thing says but I'm not sure.
Just a reminder that there is a [url=http://teamfortress.tv/servers]Servers tab on TFTV[/url] that has a bunch of servers related to comp, including all 6 DM servers by -Sal. I really like sitting on that page to look for an active DM server (since it's sorted by number of active players). I think the actual player count is more accurate than the "Updated" thing says but I'm not sure.
JohnMilterkevBenroadsI don't think that rocket jumper soldiers would be a problem as long as market gardener is banned?
saying that now but do you know the terror that is davidb.ts? he will be in your dm server jumping around like a maniac with the rocket jumper like he's playing jump_beef
For 3 fucking hours, I hate that trashcan.
I feel like idiots are going to be idiots regardless of what unlocks they're allowed to use. Granted I am not very torn up about the whole rocketjumper ban since I would only use it if it had an original variant anyway.
As for stuff regarding sniper I think you can bodyshot people as long as you're unscoped? Not that it really matters for the most part it just wastes a slot in DM imo.
[quote=JohnMilter][quote=kev][quote=Benroads]I don't think that rocket jumper soldiers would be a problem as long as market gardener is banned?[/quote]
saying that now but do you know the terror that is davidb.ts? he will be in your dm server jumping around like a maniac with the rocket jumper like he's playing jump_beef[/quote]
For 3 fucking hours, I hate that trashcan.[/quote]
I feel like idiots are going to be idiots regardless of what unlocks they're allowed to use. Granted I am not very torn up about the whole rocketjumper ban since I would only use it if it had an original variant anyway.
As for stuff regarding sniper I think you can bodyshot people as long as you're unscoped? Not that it really matters for the most part it just wastes a slot in DM imo.
thorn_safrixthorn_safrixthorn_Can we agree to allow sniper on one server at least? I would like the opportunity to snipe in the servers, like the good old days. People who complain about it could play in the 3 other servers, so I do not see it as a very crippling factor.
there are esea whitelist/sniper servers
no one plays on them though
That's why I posted here, because people actually play on the TF.TV DM servers.
http://i.imgur.com/gnQEGcf.png
I don't know if you're taking this personally or something but damn, you are putting effort into this. If I was not explicit enough, I am talking about the DM servers people play on consistently. Obviously we are not going to be able to fill 6 DM servers regardless of banned items or classes, so I am asking for a change on one of the four that people use.
What if, people don't play on those sniper allowed servers because they dislike sniper in DM? Thus goes to those 4 servers that doesn't allow sniper. Think of it like this, many people don't want and dislike sniper, thus they don't choose to play on them. If they made one of the servers sniper-enabled, I think logically people would choose not to play on them because well, they don't want snipers. Try populating the sniper servers and get people to DM so you can play it there. Like klanana once said I think, a server doesn't fill itself, it takes at least one person to try to fill it up.
[quote=thorn_][quote=safrix][quote=thorn_][quote=safrix][quote=thorn_]Can we agree to allow sniper on one server at least? I would like the opportunity to snipe in the servers, like the good old days. People who complain about it could play in the 3 other servers, so I do not see it as a very crippling factor.[/quote]
there are esea whitelist/sniper servers
no one plays on them though[/quote]
That's why I posted here, because people actually play on the TF.TV DM servers.[/quote]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/gnQEGcf.png[/img][/quote]
I don't know if you're taking this personally or something but damn, you are putting effort into this. If I was not explicit enough, I am talking about the DM servers people play on consistently. Obviously we are not going to be able to fill 6 DM servers regardless of banned items or classes, so I am asking for a change on one of the four that people use.[/quote]
What if, people don't play on those sniper allowed servers because they dislike sniper in DM? Thus goes to those 4 servers that doesn't allow sniper. Think of it like this, many people don't want and dislike sniper, thus they don't choose to play on them. If they made one of the servers sniper-enabled, I think logically people would choose not to play on them because well, they don't want snipers. Try populating the sniper servers and get people to DM so you can play it there. Like klanana once said I think, a server doesn't fill itself, it takes at least one person to try to fill it up.
festive black box isnt banned
festive black box isnt banned