at the moment i have 32bit windows 7, however come summer i was thinking of maybe installing linux on my pc
given that i've never used a linux os before I don't really know if I should switch or which to use
help???
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at the moment i have 32bit windows 7, however come summer i was thinking of maybe installing linux on my pc
given that i've never used a linux os before I don't really know if I should switch or which to use
help???
given that i've never used a linux os before I don't really know if I should switch or which to use
help???
If you want to keep things simple and get your feet wet with linux then just dualboot between windows and the most current version of ubuntu.
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/
just make a bootable usb drive or dvd and go through the installation process. you can choose how big you want your ubuntu partition to be (shouldn't need to be much larger than a few gb).
If you want to keep things simple and get your feet wet with linux then just dualboot between windows and the most current version of ubuntu.
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/
just make a bootable usb drive or dvd and go through the installation process. you can choose how big you want your ubuntu partition to be (shouldn't need to be much larger than a few gb).
http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/
just make a bootable usb drive or dvd and go through the installation process. you can choose how big you want your ubuntu partition to be (shouldn't need to be much larger than a few gb).
If all/most of what you play is TF2, then I absolutely suggest switching. I switched awhile ago and have been very happy. If you play other games, check Steam to see if those games are also on Linux, quite a few already, but a lot of the huge AAA titles aren't yet.
I switched a little less then a year ago and I've noticed an overall increase in FPS on Ubuntu/Linux Mint, and the huge amount of choice you have is amazing. For example, I used Ubuntus default interface, Unity for while, which is nice and very friendly to new users. If you like it, you'll never have to do a thing, but I wanted ot explore. Later I switched to Cinnamon, which is a much more Windows like desktop environment, before switching to GNOME Flashback for a more classic Linux interface I've grown in love with. How do you easily switch from so many totally different interfaces on the same OS(that I wanted to link pictures of but tftvs linking is broken)? One command: Apt-get
In Ubuntu (and in fact most mainstream distros), you NEVER have to use the "scary" Terminal (Command prompt as its called in Windows) if you don't want too, or don't want to do anything complex, so in general you never have to worry about it....but honestly...its easier and faster once you know what to do. Dropping in "sudo apt-get install cinnamon" and/or "sudo apt-get install gnome-flashback" get me a brand new desktop every time. You can install Steam, Skype, or whatever program you really want doing the same thing, just gotta google to find the proper command. Its quicker and easier then downloading the program and installing it manually, but thats what most people are used too.
ANYWAY, ranting. Linux is fun. Install it on a USB stick and boot from it and play from there first, just remember it'll be slower then having it actually installed. Be warned, the system is VASTLY different from Windows, so don't expect it to act like Windows, but don't think its bad because its different, I've come to think the opposite.
Oh, and don't be afraid to break things. When you first install, toy around, play with stuff, push and shove the OS to see what it can and cannot do. If you break it, just reformat, its MUCH easier to do then it is with Windows. Hell, you get to use the OS WHILE the disk formats, so go nuts!
If all/most of what you play is TF2, then I absolutely suggest switching. I switched awhile ago and have been very happy. If you play other games, check Steam to see if those games are also on Linux, quite a few already, but a lot of the huge AAA titles aren't yet.
I switched a little less then a year ago and I've noticed an overall increase in FPS on Ubuntu/Linux Mint, and the huge amount of choice you have is amazing. For example, I used Ubuntus default interface, Unity for while, which is nice and very friendly to new users. If you like it, you'll never have to do a thing, but I wanted ot explore. Later I switched to Cinnamon, which is a much more Windows like desktop environment, before switching to GNOME Flashback for a more classic Linux interface I've grown in love with. How do you easily switch from so many totally different interfaces on the same OS(that I wanted to link pictures of but tftvs linking is broken)? One command: Apt-get
In Ubuntu (and in fact most mainstream distros), you NEVER have to use the "scary" Terminal (Command prompt as its called in Windows) if you don't want too, or don't want to do anything complex, so in general you never have to worry about it....but honestly...its easier and faster once you know what to do. Dropping in "sudo apt-get install cinnamon" and/or "sudo apt-get install gnome-flashback" get me a brand new desktop every time. You can install Steam, Skype, or whatever program you really want doing the same thing, just gotta google to find the proper command. Its quicker and easier then downloading the program and installing it manually, but thats what most people are used too.
ANYWAY, ranting. Linux is fun. Install it on a USB stick and boot from it and play from there first, just remember it'll be slower then having it actually installed. Be warned, the system is VASTLY different from Windows, so don't expect it to act like Windows, but don't think its bad because its different, I've come to think the opposite.
Oh, and don't be afraid to break things. When you first install, toy around, play with stuff, push and shove the OS to see what it can and cannot do. If you break it, just reformat, its MUCH easier to do then it is with Windows. Hell, you get to use the OS WHILE the disk formats, so go nuts!
I switched a little less then a year ago and I've noticed an overall increase in FPS on Ubuntu/Linux Mint, and the huge amount of choice you have is amazing. For example, I used Ubuntus default interface, Unity for while, which is nice and very friendly to new users. If you like it, you'll never have to do a thing, but I wanted ot explore. Later I switched to Cinnamon, which is a much more Windows like desktop environment, before switching to GNOME Flashback for a more classic Linux interface I've grown in love with. How do you easily switch from so many totally different interfaces on the same OS(that I wanted to link pictures of but tftvs linking is broken)? One command: Apt-get
In Ubuntu (and in fact most mainstream distros), you NEVER have to use the "scary" Terminal (Command prompt as its called in Windows) if you don't want too, or don't want to do anything complex, so in general you never have to worry about it....but honestly...its easier and faster once you know what to do. Dropping in "sudo apt-get install cinnamon" and/or "sudo apt-get install gnome-flashback" get me a brand new desktop every time. You can install Steam, Skype, or whatever program you really want doing the same thing, just gotta google to find the proper command. Its quicker and easier then downloading the program and installing it manually, but thats what most people are used too.
ANYWAY, ranting. Linux is fun. Install it on a USB stick and boot from it and play from there first, just remember it'll be slower then having it actually installed. Be warned, the system is VASTLY different from Windows, so don't expect it to act like Windows, but don't think its bad because its different, I've come to think the opposite.
Oh, and don't be afraid to break things. When you first install, toy around, play with stuff, push and shove the OS to see what it can and cannot do. If you break it, just reformat, its MUCH easier to do then it is with Windows. Hell, you get to use the OS WHILE the disk formats, so go nuts!
Im definitely no Linux expert, but I have used it in the past (Ubuntu and mint) and it is very easy to use, and a lot faster then windows. I also got better fps in tf2, on my toaster. IF you are comfortable formatting your hard drive, I would try out doing a dual boot to see how you like it.
Good luck!
Im definitely no Linux expert, but I have used it in the past (Ubuntu and mint) and it is very easy to use, and a lot faster then windows. I also got better fps in tf2, on my toaster. IF you are comfortable formatting your hard drive, I would try out doing a dual boot to see how you like it.
Good luck!
Good luck!
Learning some of the basic commands for Linux is also much easier than I thought it would be. This and finding drivers was the main reason why I was wary of installing linux on my Laptop since I need it to be running without any issues at all times. Switching took about 4 hours to get Chrome, Steam, and an IDE up and running.
Learning some of the basic commands for Linux is also much easier than I thought it would be. This and finding drivers was the main reason why I was wary of installing linux on my Laptop since I need it to be running without any issues at all times. Switching took about 4 hours to get Chrome, Steam, and an IDE up and running.
The fact that you can update all your programs with one command is the greatest thing ever.
I had a dual boot with Fedora on my desktop and I'm running CrunchBang on my laptop. Both are great, though I kinda prefer CB cause the package installer thing seems to have more documentation than the Fedora one.
The fact that you can update all your programs with one command is the greatest thing ever.
I had a dual boot with Fedora on my desktop and I'm running CrunchBang on my laptop. Both are great, though I kinda prefer CB cause the package installer thing seems to have more documentation than the Fedora one.
I had a dual boot with Fedora on my desktop and I'm running CrunchBang on my laptop. Both are great, though I kinda prefer CB cause the package installer thing seems to have more documentation than the Fedora one.
botmodeat the moment i have 32bit windows 7, however come summer i was thinking of maybe installing linux on my pc
given that i've never used a linux os before I don't really know if I should switch or which to use
help???
I would suggest trying it out; it's fast, secure and stable. (And if you care about TF2, it seems to run fine on it.)
As far as which distribution to use, I'd probably recommend Fedora or Ubuntu if you want something that "just works".
r4ptureIn Ubuntu (and in fact most mainstream distros), you NEVER have to use the "scary" Terminal (Command prompt as its called in Windows) if you don't want too, or don't want to do anything complex, so in general you never have to worry about it....but honestly...its easier and faster once you know what to do. Dropping in "sudo apt-get install cinnamon" and/or "sudo apt-get install gnome-flashback" get me a brand new desktop every time. You can install Steam, Skype, or whatever program you really want doing the same thing, just gotta google to find the proper command. Its quicker and easier then downloading the program and installing it manually, but thats what most people are used too.
Just to clarify, the non-CLI alternative to using apt-get directly would not be downloading and installing it manually, it would be using a graphical front-end to apt (such as synaptic). Manually
installing a package is generally a bad idea unless you know what you're doing.
[quote=botmode]at the moment i have 32bit windows 7, however come summer i was thinking of maybe installing linux on my pc
given that i've never used a linux os before I don't really know if I should switch or which to use
help???[/quote]
I would suggest trying it out; it's fast, secure and stable. (And if you care about TF2, it seems to run fine on it.)
As far as which distribution to use, I'd probably recommend Fedora or Ubuntu if you want something that "just works".
[quote=r4pture]In Ubuntu (and in fact most mainstream distros), you NEVER have to use the "scary" Terminal (Command prompt as its called in Windows) if you don't want too, or don't want to do anything complex, so in general you never have to worry about it....but honestly...its easier and faster once you know what to do. Dropping in "sudo apt-get install cinnamon" and/or "sudo apt-get install gnome-flashback" get me a brand new desktop every time. You can install Steam, Skype, or whatever program you really want doing the same thing, just gotta google to find the proper command. Its quicker and easier then downloading the program and installing it manually, but thats what most people are used too.[/quote]
Just to clarify, the non-CLI alternative to using apt-get directly would not be downloading and installing it manually, it would be using a graphical front-end to apt (such as synaptic). Manually
installing a package is generally a bad idea unless you know what you're doing.
given that i've never used a linux os before I don't really know if I should switch or which to use
help???[/quote]
I would suggest trying it out; it's fast, secure and stable. (And if you care about TF2, it seems to run fine on it.)
As far as which distribution to use, I'd probably recommend Fedora or Ubuntu if you want something that "just works".
[quote=r4pture]In Ubuntu (and in fact most mainstream distros), you NEVER have to use the "scary" Terminal (Command prompt as its called in Windows) if you don't want too, or don't want to do anything complex, so in general you never have to worry about it....but honestly...its easier and faster once you know what to do. Dropping in "sudo apt-get install cinnamon" and/or "sudo apt-get install gnome-flashback" get me a brand new desktop every time. You can install Steam, Skype, or whatever program you really want doing the same thing, just gotta google to find the proper command. Its quicker and easier then downloading the program and installing it manually, but thats what most people are used too.[/quote]
Just to clarify, the non-CLI alternative to using apt-get directly would not be downloading and installing it manually, it would be using a graphical front-end to apt (such as synaptic). Manually
installing a package is generally a bad idea unless you know what you're doing.
Would any of you Ubuntu users say that it runs TF2 faster than windows 7? I'm on a 13" retina MB pro and I get around 100 FPS (with MaxFrames config) but that's only on OSX. If Ubuntu is going to boost FPS noticeably, then I'd love to dual boot.
Would any of you Ubuntu users say that it runs TF2 faster than windows 7? I'm on a 13" retina MB pro and I get around 100 FPS (with MaxFrames config) but that's only on OSX. If Ubuntu is going to boost FPS noticeably, then I'd love to dual boot.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/118882-Valves-Source-Engine-Runs-Better-on-Linux-Than-Windows
HerbsWould any of you Ubuntu users say that it runs TF2 faster than windows 7? I'm on a 13" retina MB pro and I get around 100 FPS (with MaxFrames config) but that's only on OSX. If Ubuntu is going to boost FPS noticeably, then I'd love to dual boot.
Not using Ubuntu, but I do get slightly better FPS than on Windows. It's not too noticeable of a difference, though -- maybe 10-20 FPS.
[quote=Herbs]Would any of you Ubuntu users say that it runs TF2 faster than windows 7? I'm on a 13" retina MB pro and I get around 100 FPS (with MaxFrames config) but that's only on OSX. If Ubuntu is going to boost FPS noticeably, then I'd love to dual boot.[/quote]
Not using Ubuntu, but I do get slightly better FPS than on Windows. It's not too noticeable of a difference, though -- maybe 10-20 FPS.
Not using Ubuntu, but I do get slightly better FPS than on Windows. It's not too noticeable of a difference, though -- maybe 10-20 FPS.
Keep in mind that ESEA and CEVO only support Windows for their clients, so if you want to play in a league you'll have to keep a Windows machine/partition.
Keep in mind that ESEA and CEVO only support Windows for their clients, so if you want to play in a league you'll have to keep a Windows machine/partition.
synchroKeep in mind that ESEA and CEVO only support Windows for their clients, so if you want to play in a league you'll have to keep a Windows machine/partition.
This is true, and one of the facts keeping a lot of people on this forum from going to Linux. ESEA and CEVO have no Linux client. It sucks and I hate it but thats how it is. If you're a Highlander player though, theres no issue, as UGC requires no client.
[quote=synchro]Keep in mind that ESEA and CEVO only support Windows for their clients, so if you want to play in a league you'll have to keep a Windows machine/partition.[/quote]
This is true, and one of the facts keeping a lot of people on this forum from going to Linux. [b]ESEA and CEVO have no Linux client.[/b] It sucks and I hate it but thats how it is. If you're a Highlander player though, theres no issue, as UGC requires no client.
This is true, and one of the facts keeping a lot of people on this forum from going to Linux. [b]ESEA and CEVO have no Linux client.[/b] It sucks and I hate it but thats how it is. If you're a Highlander player though, theres no issue, as UGC requires no client.
The most popular linux distros atm are ubuntu and mint, both are good, just keep in mind that as r4pture said ESEA and CEVO clients don't work on linux. I dualboot with Mint and it's nice, mint flows alot better than windows but sadly I never see linux overtaking windows as an operating system.
The most popular linux distros atm are ubuntu and mint, both are good, just keep in mind that as r4pture said ESEA and CEVO clients don't work on linux. I dualboot with Mint and it's nice, mint flows alot better than windows but sadly I never see linux overtaking windows as an operating system.
also keep in mind that there's no dxlevel on linux(atleast not on ubuntu) so you might not notice a big fps boost if you are using maxframes
also keep in mind that there's no dxlevel on linux(atleast not on ubuntu) so you might not notice a big fps boost if you are using maxframes
totoalso keep in mind that there's no dxlevel on linux(atleast not on ubuntu) so you might not notice a big fps boost if you are using maxframes
This is partially incorrect. There certainly is a 'dxlevel' flag, however all it really does is enable/disable some features. TF2 on Linux works by a translation layer that translates DirectX calls to OpenGL ones, and a different 'dxlevel' setting would affect which calls are being made, which *might* help with performance, but not necessarily, or not by much.
[quote=toto]also keep in mind that there's no dxlevel on linux(atleast not on ubuntu) so you might not notice a big fps boost if you are using maxframes[/quote]
This is partially incorrect. There certainly is a 'dxlevel' flag, however all it really does is enable/disable some features. TF2 on Linux works by a translation layer that translates DirectX calls to OpenGL ones, and a different 'dxlevel' setting would affect which calls are being made, which *might* help with performance, but not necessarily, or not by much.
This is partially incorrect. There certainly is a 'dxlevel' flag, however all it really does is enable/disable some features. TF2 on Linux works by a translation layer that translates DirectX calls to OpenGL ones, and a different 'dxlevel' setting would affect which calls are being made, which *might* help with performance, but not necessarily, or not by much.
omptotoalso keep in mind that there's no dxlevel on linux(atleast not on ubuntu) so you might not notice a big fps boost if you are using maxframes
This is partially incorrect. There certainly is a 'dxlevel' flag, however all it really does is enable/disable some features. TF2 on Linux works by a translation layer that translates DirectX calls to OpenGL ones, and a different 'dxlevel' setting would affect which calls are being made, which *might* help with performance, but not necessarily, or not by much.
yeah thats exactly what i wanted to say, but its not so easy to write all that when you are not a native english speaker. My point was that you wont get the same effect that you get on windows when you use dxlevel on linux
[quote=omp][quote=toto]also keep in mind that there's no dxlevel on linux(atleast not on ubuntu) so you might not notice a big fps boost if you are using maxframes[/quote]
This is partially incorrect. There certainly is a 'dxlevel' flag, however all it really does is enable/disable some features. TF2 on Linux works by a translation layer that translates DirectX calls to OpenGL ones, and a different 'dxlevel' setting would affect which calls are being made, which *might* help with performance, but not necessarily, or not by much.[/quote]
yeah thats exactly what i wanted to say, but its not so easy to write all that when you are not a native english speaker. My point was that you wont get the same effect that you get on windows when you use dxlevel on linux
This is partially incorrect. There certainly is a 'dxlevel' flag, however all it really does is enable/disable some features. TF2 on Linux works by a translation layer that translates DirectX calls to OpenGL ones, and a different 'dxlevel' setting would affect which calls are being made, which *might* help with performance, but not necessarily, or not by much.[/quote]
yeah thats exactly what i wanted to say, but its not so easy to write all that when you are not a native english speaker. My point was that you wont get the same effect that you get on windows when you use dxlevel on linux
r4pturesynchroKeep in mind that ESEA and CEVO only support Windows for their clients, so if you want to play in a league you'll have to keep a Windows machine/partition.
This is true, and one of the facts keeping a lot of people on this forum from going to Linux. ESEA and CEVO have no Linux client. It sucks and I hate it but thats how it is. If you're a Highlander player though, theres no issue, as UGC requires no client.
Does it run under WINE?
[quote=r4pture][quote=synchro]Keep in mind that ESEA and CEVO only support Windows for their clients, so if you want to play in a league you'll have to keep a Windows machine/partition.[/quote]
This is true, and one of the facts keeping a lot of people on this forum from going to Linux. [b]ESEA and CEVO have no Linux client.[/b] It sucks and I hate it but thats how it is. If you're a Highlander player though, theres no issue, as UGC requires no client.[/quote]
Does it run under WINE?
This is true, and one of the facts keeping a lot of people on this forum from going to Linux. [b]ESEA and CEVO have no Linux client.[/b] It sucks and I hate it but thats how it is. If you're a Highlander player though, theres no issue, as UGC requires no client.[/quote]
Does it run under WINE?
empty_setr4pturesynchroKeep in mind that ESEA and CEVO only support Windows for their clients, so if you want to play in a league you'll have to keep a Windows machine/partition.
This is true, and one of the facts keeping a lot of people on this forum from going to Linux. ESEA and CEVO have no Linux client. It sucks and I hate it but thats how it is. If you're a Highlander player though, theres no issue, as UGC requires no client.
Does it run under WINE?
Even if it ran, I highly doubt it would be able to interact with the game properly and would be useless.
[quote=empty_set][quote=r4pture][quote=synchro]Keep in mind that ESEA and CEVO only support Windows for their clients, so if you want to play in a league you'll have to keep a Windows machine/partition.[/quote]
This is true, and one of the facts keeping a lot of people on this forum from going to Linux. [b]ESEA and CEVO have no Linux client.[/b] It sucks and I hate it but thats how it is. If you're a Highlander player though, theres no issue, as UGC requires no client.[/quote]
Does it run under WINE?[/quote]
Even if it ran, I highly doubt it would be able to interact with the game properly and would be useless.
This is true, and one of the facts keeping a lot of people on this forum from going to Linux. [b]ESEA and CEVO have no Linux client.[/b] It sucks and I hate it but thats how it is. If you're a Highlander player though, theres no issue, as UGC requires no client.[/quote]
Does it run under WINE?[/quote]
Even if it ran, I highly doubt it would be able to interact with the game properly and would be useless.
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