that escalated quickly, you write fan fictions?

I'm going to be completely honest. Tf2center was pretty much made to introduce new players to the comp scene, and has been advertised as such. Of course the skill level is low, people who want to learn how to play comp are there. If you want to play with some decently competent people, dont go to a website dedicated to teaching new players how to play.

kill yorueslf

seriously, do it

is this /r/truetf2?

I do write fan fiction, and I'm fucking excellent at it. You and ur s1ck cr3w, however, were easy targets. Like bape and 2c said; kill yourself.

I feel like 6s rely heavily on teamwork and that why it may seem frustrating for you to play. Just play hl when you're doing tf2center and it basically becomes a pub.

ill take your word for it, jks

Put on some music, lower or mute game volume, then just fuck around doing shit like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v412W1CdGrA

thread over

i think you should seek professional help

Hmm...

yo, can someone give me some cool plans for mothers day

give your mom something nice

quit while you're ahead

even though you're not actually ahead, you should probably quit anyways

fixed

This maybe the worst thread I ever posted in.

no, it's not.

Play MGE instead.

I'm sorry if this post annoyed some people. I'm a mod of TF2Center, so we are looking at this thread... it gives quite the insight into how people view our site and how we look at managing it.

hi.

I just want to tag on with my personal experience that happened a few days ago.

I was in an NA HL lobby, it was on Viaduct. I played Medic and was rolling kritz. I pushed up to mid with my team (via comms) and kritzed the demo, who was in mumble along with everyone else, but wasn't talking. Instead of spamming out the enemy combo that was holding behind rock along with all of the rest of their teammates (blatantly stupid), the demo focused on the engie that was wrenching (and missing every shot, mind) close up. The entire kritz was wasted because the demo spammed at his feet and tried to kill the engie, missing every time. Of course, I called out the demo for it in mumble, but I wasn't overly aggressive. Everyone else saw and started name calling and other immature shit.

By the time we respawned (the demo ended up getting the engie at the very end of the kritz, but blew himself up with the same sticky), obviously we were needed by our team. The demo was trying to type in chat and apologize rather that hop on mic. Obviously he was a little frustrated. We lost the first round, so then round 2 begins.

Straight out of the gate, everyone attacks the demo in mumble and forces him to switch to heavy so a more experienced player can hop to demo. Fine by me, okay. But now the heavy stands outside spawn typing to us and trying to attack back, or defend himself, or whatever, rather than sucking it up and going back to playing the game. He also called us out for tryharding in a lobby, apparently. I guess not wanting to lose is tryharding. Anyway, eventually the team kicks the heavy off to engie by the end of the game, and we get a new heavy. Near the very end of the game, we hear crying on comms but we can't figure out who it is.

After the game, Center dumps everyone from the game into the same mumble channel and we say our GGs... But then the demo/heavy/engie starts speaking up. She had been crying on comms during the tail end and I really felt bad, so I apologized and left, not wanting to deal with the possible shitstorm.

Apparently the rest of the players all ganged up on her (even the one other girl in the match) and bullied her for playing poorly (demo is apparently her worst class and she was lobbying to get better), being a sore loser (wat), etc. It really took a toll on her. She added me to friends later that evening (like, 6 hours later; I was in the middle of a cast at the time) and we talked a lot about what happened. Apparently talking it out with her (supporting her, etc; I of course apologized because I'm not a dick) made her feel a lot better afterward, so that was nice.

It absolutely sickens me how hostile and immature the Center community is. I'm not really sure what's causing it to get so bad, but it's leading me to drift from doing lobbies to doing pugs and scrims. It's gotten worse than pubs. Sure, the OP's rant seems like a day gone bad and things are being exaggerated and whatnot, but I know what I saw and Center is beginning to sicken me.

You need a report system that's a little more varied. For example, report for being bad, report for leaving, report for never showing, gentle report just to get a new player (tech issues being communicated via mumble), report for harassment. These kinds of reports should be tallied in the profile. Leaving should count as ragequit. Never showing should be reliability. Being bad should be its own system that shows flags once this happens too often from multiple reports in multiple games, so players can tell if someone is just going to fuck around. Gentle reports shouldn't be able to be executed by players ingame, but rather by the actual person themselves (targeting themselves) from the lobby webpage. That way, if they can't get into TF2 or something else is going on, they can immediately request a sub with no penalty to themselves (tech issues are bound to crop up).

When starting centers people should have the option of preventing teamstacking. The way I was thinking is that people just add as a class and then the center designates players to teams either randomly or according to hours/centers played (randomly would probably be better to be honest.)

I'm not saying Thief or whoever shouldn't be allowed to make their shitty centers where they stack 4 friends on the team and all go in their own mumble to comm and use unlocks. I'm just saying that there should be an alternative for people who don't want to deal with that.

Sounds great to me. Make it an option when creating a lobby, "shuffle" or "organized". If "shuffle", rather than show which team needs which class on the browser, just show the number of that class needed.

vortex, an anti stacking / random lobbies discussion has been going on for quite some time! If you think you have some good ideas or want to take part in that discussion, please apply to be a member!

@yittrium, I like your ideas, and have been thinking for a while about how to manage the reporting system in a better way. I'll be in contact with you and we can have a chat about expanding these ideas to the point where it can be submitted as an idea to the devs.

Awesome, message me here, on steam, or email me

if you ever want to get in touch.

Chingoo ur a fuckin moron

http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpumc4O8Vd1qc1jg4o1_400.gif

Center mumbles are straight toxic. The idea is nice but the reality is a bunch of pubstars who think they understand the 6s/HL game all yelling at each other. I usually join the mumble and mute myself. Occasionally (with ever diminishing frequency) I feel bad about it since hypothetically they're there to learn and get better, and I try to play a game with mumble, but it's always the same. Once or twice I had the pleasure of playing with a calm (and very inexperienced) group of players, and those games were really enjoyable. It was like coaching a a good newbie mix.

I think the source of the problem is that new players don't understand how to measure success (at least in 6s, I don't play as much HL). It's not very straightforward and is different for each role, which means they can't really compare their stats to the other players on the team. A new scout isn't going to be able to understand the difference between 25 kills at 150DPM and 20 kills at 200DPM. Medics aren't going to realize that a 75-10-5-5-5 is a terrible heal spread (or that a heal spread is even a thing). Because they don't understand what constitutes success on their class it's really easy to pass the blame on to some other role. A scout who dies a lot will end up blaming his scout partner for not suicideing with him (the correct decision), or his demo for not putting out enough damage even though the scout's constant deaths prevent the demo from getting too aggressive.

The best solution might be a combination of some sort of ranking system and team randomizers. That way teams would be more even in skill and there'd be a visible badge or something that might make newer players listen to more experienced ones.

That was long winded as hell but I don't feel like editing it.

Anyways I like lobbies because because they're relatively quick to start and it's a place to tryhard without feeling ridiculous like I do in pubs. I'm not playing enough tf2 right now to care about getting better so waiting for irc pugs isn't really worth it to me.

In my experience, tf2center is a great way for me to get back into comp after not playing for months because i'm rusty and bad at this game. I've had quite a few lobbies where everyone was actually really good about communicating and nobody was raging or being assholes.

Granted, anytime I notice that Thief or b. aka blackymonster and crew are stacking lobbies, I just don't bother and look for a different one.