another season of granary D=
ESEA Map Poll
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reillyYeah foundry is way to big for 6s.
Yukon had terrible sniper lines iirc, but wasn't part of the reason it was removed was because double heavy on last?
mif you wipe on mid you deserve to lose the round i dont get where u get the idea that its ok to wipe on mid what the fuckMid is only 1 point on the map. The punishment for having a bad mid should be having the hold last with uber disadvantage. On other maps you actually get a slight chance at holding, but on granary it's next to none. On top of that, demomen can get from mid to last in <10 seconds and sticky spawn from a nonpunishable position.
mi enjoy playing granary on every class so whateverI enjoy the map too, but to say it's without flaws is stupid.
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I don't love granary but I'm pretty sure wiping on mid and leaving like 5 players up (including medic) means you got fucking dumpstered. On pretty much every single map in the game demo can get from mid to last in a really short amount of time. Just go out the right spawn (from the spawners perspective) everyone stickies the right.
[quote=reilly]Yeah foundry is way to big for 6s.
Yukon had terrible sniper lines iirc, but wasn't part of the reason it was removed was because double heavy on last?
[quote=m]if you wipe on mid you deserve to lose the round i dont get where u get the idea that its ok to wipe on mid what the fuck
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Mid is only 1 point on the map. The punishment for having a bad mid should be having the hold last with uber disadvantage. On other maps you actually get a slight chance at holding, but on granary it's next to none. On top of that, demomen can get from mid to last in <10 seconds and sticky spawn from a nonpunishable position.
[quote=m]i enjoy playing granary on every class so whatever[/quote]
I enjoy the map too, but to say it's without flaws is stupid.[/quote] \
I don't love granary but I'm pretty sure wiping on mid and leaving like 5 players up (including medic) means you got fucking dumpstered. On pretty much every single map in the game demo can get from mid to last in a really short amount of time. Just go out the right spawn (from the spawners perspective) everyone stickies the right.
Yukon had terrible sniper lines iirc, but wasn't part of the reason it was removed was because double heavy on last?
[quote=m]if you wipe on mid you deserve to lose the round i dont get where u get the idea that its ok to wipe on mid what the fuck
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Mid is only 1 point on the map. The punishment for having a bad mid should be having the hold last with uber disadvantage. On other maps you actually get a slight chance at holding, but on granary it's next to none. On top of that, demomen can get from mid to last in <10 seconds and sticky spawn from a nonpunishable position.
[quote=m]i enjoy playing granary on every class so whatever[/quote]
I enjoy the map too, but to say it's without flaws is stupid.[/quote] \
I don't love granary but I'm pretty sure wiping on mid and leaving like 5 players up (including medic) means you got fucking dumpstered. On pretty much every single map in the game demo can get from mid to last in a really short amount of time. Just go out the right spawn (from the spawners perspective) everyone stickies the right.
why are we removing sunshine
why do we attempt to remove every new map
why are we removing sunshine
why do we attempt to remove every new map
why do we attempt to remove every new map
So your choices are now intermodal, logjam, gravelpit, or keep sunshine in.
If you pick intermodal I will think you're a little strange, it's really not that 6's friendly, and would be basically a 2nd granary in the rotation, except with more flaws.
If you pick logjam I will personally hunt you down. It's not ready for ESEA, it has too much potential to be put in as-is.
You can keep sunshine, or add Gpit back.
So your choices are now intermodal, logjam, gravelpit, or keep sunshine in.
If you pick intermodal I will think you're a little strange, it's really not that 6's friendly, and would be basically a 2nd granary in the rotation, except with more flaws.
If you pick logjam I will personally hunt you down. It's not ready for ESEA, it has too much potential to be put in as-is.
You can keep sunshine, or add Gpit back.
If you pick intermodal I will think you're a little strange, it's really not that 6's friendly, and would be basically a 2nd granary in the rotation, except with more flaws.
If you pick logjam I will personally hunt you down. It's not ready for ESEA, it has too much potential to be put in as-is.
You can keep sunshine, or add Gpit back.
^Going off of what you said about logjam, I remember when Warmerfront almost got in. That would have been a disaster (no offense kaptain_kul)
^Going off of what you said about logjam, I remember when Warmerfront almost got in. That would have been a disaster (no offense kaptain_kul)
There really should be detailed requirements for a new map to be added to the polls. I can't speak for or against Sunshine, but in past seasons, there have barely been any custom maps that the majority enjoy and actually want to play. It really seems that people end up voting in new maps as a reason to vote out a map they don't want to play. It's understandable that over time, people want something new, but they should really make sure that it's something they want long term and not at that moment only because it's new.
There really should be detailed requirements for a new map to be added to the polls. I can't speak for or against Sunshine, but in past seasons, there have barely been any custom maps that the majority enjoy and actually want to play. It really seems that people end up voting in new maps as a reason to vote out a map they don't want to play. It's understandable that over time, people want something new, but they should really make sure that it's something they want long term and not at that moment only because it's new.
They should add a rule that if you vote for a new map, it stays in for at least 3 seasons.
They should add a rule that if you vote for a new map, it stays in for at least 3 seasons.
LKincheloeThey should add a rule that if you vote for a new map, it stays in for at least 3 seasons.
cp_ashville
[quote=LKincheloe]They should add a rule that if you vote for a new map, it stays in for at least 3 seasons.[/quote]
cp_ashville
cp_ashville
kirbyThere really should be detailed requirements for a new map to be added to the polls. I can't speak for or against Sunshine, but in past seasons, there have barely been any custom maps that the majority enjoy and actually want to play. It really seems that people end up voting in new maps as a reason to vote out a map they don't want to play. It's understandable that over time, people want something new, but they should really make sure that it's something they want long term and not at that moment only because it's new.
Considering people don't pug new maps, what would those requirements be?
[quote=kirby]There really should be detailed requirements for a new map to be added to the polls. I can't speak for or against Sunshine, but in past seasons, there have barely been any custom maps that the majority enjoy and actually want to play. It really seems that people end up voting in new maps as a reason to vote out a map they don't want to play. It's understandable that over time, people want something new, but they should really make sure that it's something they want long term and not at that moment only because it's new.[/quote]
Considering people don't pug new maps, what would those requirements be?
Considering people don't pug new maps, what would those requirements be?
hookykirbyThere really should be detailed requirements for a new map to be added to the polls. I can't speak for or against Sunshine, but in past seasons, there have barely been any custom maps that the majority enjoy and actually want to play. It really seems that people end up voting in new maps as a reason to vote out a map they don't want to play. It's understandable that over time, people want something new, but they should really make sure that it's something they want long term and not at that moment only because it's new.Considering people don't pug new maps, what would those requirements be?
NA people don't pug new maps. I've watched ETF2L doublemixes on logjam for about a month now and it's the best feedback I've ever gotten. If we could get occasional pugs from pug.na or something like that for new maps that would be absolutely outstanding. If you want fresh, new, good maps in your rotation you need to help us out a bit.
[quote=hooky][quote=kirby]There really should be detailed requirements for a new map to be added to the polls. I can't speak for or against Sunshine, but in past seasons, there have barely been any custom maps that the majority enjoy and actually want to play. It really seems that people end up voting in new maps as a reason to vote out a map they don't want to play. It's understandable that over time, people want something new, but they should really make sure that it's something they want long term and not at that moment only because it's new.[/quote]
Considering people don't pug new maps, what would those requirements be?[/quote]
NA people don't pug new maps. I've watched ETF2L doublemixes on logjam for about a month now and it's the best feedback I've ever gotten. If we could get occasional pugs from pug.na or something like that for new maps that would be absolutely outstanding. If you want fresh, new, good maps in your rotation you need to help us out a bit.
Considering people don't pug new maps, what would those requirements be?[/quote]
NA people don't pug new maps. I've watched ETF2L doublemixes on logjam for about a month now and it's the best feedback I've ever gotten. If we could get occasional pugs from pug.na or something like that for new maps that would be absolutely outstanding. If you want fresh, new, good maps in your rotation you need to help us out a bit.
Scorpio used to host new map pugs on the weekends. He'd put together a zip file of 3-4 new map and we'd play a pug or two on each one every Friday and Saturday night. It was pretty fun and got mappers some feedback.
Scorpio used to host new map pugs on the weekends. He'd put together a zip file of 3-4 new map and we'd play a pug or two on each one every Friday and Saturday night. It was pretty fun and got mappers some feedback.
hookykirbyThere really should be detailed requirements for a new map to be added to the polls. I can't speak for or against Sunshine, but in past seasons, there have barely been any custom maps that the majority enjoy and actually want to play. It really seems that people end up voting in new maps as a reason to vote out a map they don't want to play. It's understandable that over time, people want something new, but they should really make sure that it's something they want long term and not at that moment only because it's new.Considering people don't pug new maps, what would those requirements be?
pugging the new maps for one lol
[quote=hooky][quote=kirby]There really should be detailed requirements for a new map to be added to the polls. I can't speak for or against Sunshine, but in past seasons, there have barely been any custom maps that the majority enjoy and actually want to play. It really seems that people end up voting in new maps as a reason to vote out a map they don't want to play. It's understandable that over time, people want something new, but they should really make sure that it's something they want long term and not at that moment only because it's new.[/quote]
Considering people don't pug new maps, what would those requirements be?[/quote]
pugging the new maps for one lol
Considering people don't pug new maps, what would those requirements be?[/quote]
pugging the new maps for one lol
I don't see any harm in adding some new maps to pug rotations (tf2mix, pug.na), worst case scenario people can rtv to another map. That would seem easier than bringing back new map only pugs
I don't see any harm in adding some new maps to pug rotations (tf2mix, pug.na), worst case scenario people can rtv to another map. That would seem easier than bringing back new map only pugs
hookywhy do we attempt to remove every new map
how did snakewater, gullywash, process, and metalworks stay in the rotation if we remove every new map?
[quote=hooky]why do we attempt to remove every new map[/quote]
how did snakewater, gullywash, process, and metalworks stay in the rotation if we remove every new map?
how did snakewater, gullywash, process, and metalworks stay in the rotation if we remove every new map?
we need to move past granary, granary is not a good map.
we need to move past granary, granary is not a good map.
bscHow do people still not know how to play granary
how do people still not know how to keep a team alive
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no but seriously the only person in invite i know of who despises granary is clock. it's mostly open players raging because the team(s) they play come up with 1 mid strat and they cant figure it out and get raped repeatedly.
[quote=bsc]How do people still not know how to play granary[/quote]
how do people still not know how to keep a team alive
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
no but seriously the only person in invite i know of who despises granary is clock. it's mostly open players raging because the team(s) they play come up with 1 mid strat and they cant figure it out and get raped repeatedly.
how do people still not know how to keep a team alive
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
no but seriously the only person in invite i know of who despises granary is clock. it's mostly open players raging because the team(s) they play come up with 1 mid strat and they cant figure it out and get raped repeatedly.
I think ESEA should add payload because I really like the payload gamemode especially when I'm playing my main (Sniper) I like 5cp but I think there should be more variety who else thinks so?
I think ESEA should add payload because I really like the payload gamemode especially when I'm playing my main (Sniper) I like 5cp but I think there should be more variety who else thinks so?
snipermainI think ESEA should add payload because I really like the payload gamemode especially when I'm playing my main (Sniper) I like 5cp but I think there should be more variety who else thinks so?
THAT'S WHY THEY MADE HIGHLANDER A THING KID
[quote=snipermain]I think ESEA should add payload because I really like the payload gamemode especially when I'm playing my main (Sniper) I like 5cp but I think there should be more variety who else thinks so?[/quote]
THAT'S WHY THEY MADE HIGHLANDER A THING KID
THAT'S WHY THEY MADE HIGHLANDER A THING KID
snipermainI think ESEA should add payload because I really like the payload gamemode especially when I'm playing my main (Sniper) I like 5cp but I think there should be more variety who else thinks so?
u are the absolute worst troll
snipermaindeathforce9
[quote=snipermain]I think ESEA should add payload because I really like the payload gamemode especially when I'm playing my main (Sniper) I like 5cp but I think there should be more variety who else thinks so?[/quote]
u are the absolute worst troll
[quote=snipermain]deathforce9[/quote]
u are the absolute worst troll
[quote=snipermain]deathforce9[/quote]
If I had a gun with two bullets, and I was in a room with Hitler, Stalin and snipermain, I would shoot snipermain twice.
If I had a gun with two bullets, and I was in a room with Hitler, Stalin and snipermain, I would shoot snipermain twice.
PapaSmurf323If I had a gun with two bullets, and I was in a room with Hitler, Stalin and snipermain, I would shoot snipermain twice.
not if i snipe you first ;)
[quote=PapaSmurf323]If I had a gun with two bullets, and I was in a room with Hitler, Stalin and snipermain, I would shoot snipermain twice.[/quote]
not if i snipe you first ;)
not if i snipe you first ;)
defiancehookywhy do we attempt to remove every new maphow did snakewater, gullywash, process, and metalworks stay in the rotation if we remove every new map?
Because I said we attempt to remove every new map.
But now that I looked at the map polls more thoroughly, each new map was either so terrible it had to be removed *coughashvillecough* or got overshadowed by flaws of other maps. I was wrong.
Keep Sunshine or bring back Gpit.
[quote=defiance][quote=hooky]why do we attempt to remove every new map[/quote]
how did snakewater, gullywash, process, and metalworks stay in the rotation if we remove every new map?[/quote]
Because I said we [b]attempt[/b] to remove every new map.
But now that I looked at the map polls more thoroughly, each new map was either so terrible it had to be removed *coughashvillecough* or got overshadowed by flaws of other maps. I was wrong.
Keep Sunshine or bring back Gpit.
how did snakewater, gullywash, process, and metalworks stay in the rotation if we remove every new map?[/quote]
Because I said we [b]attempt[/b] to remove every new map.
But now that I looked at the map polls more thoroughly, each new map was either so terrible it had to be removed *coughashvillecough* or got overshadowed by flaws of other maps. I was wrong.
Keep Sunshine or bring back Gpit.
marmadukeGRYLLSbscHow do people still not know how to play granary
how do people still not know how to keep a team alive
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
it's okay he's been relieved of his duties: http://play.esea.net/teams/79441
[quote=marmadukeGRYLLS][quote=bsc]How do people still not know how to play granary[/quote]
how do people still not know how to keep a team alive
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
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it's okay he's been relieved of his duties: http://play.esea.net/teams/79441
how do people still not know how to keep a team alive
HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE
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it's okay he's been relieved of his duties: http://play.esea.net/teams/79441
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