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GXL LAN Fall 2014
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#331
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If anyone needs a ride and wants to carpool on this route: https://goo.gl/maps/fvdmm and/or needs a roommate hit me up, I have an extra seat in my car.

If anyone needs a ride and wants to carpool on this route: https://goo.gl/maps/fvdmm and/or needs a roommate hit me up, I have an extra seat in my car.
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#332
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I will room with u and Carolina's legs.

I will room with u and Carolina's legs.
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#333
RGB LAN
0 Frags +
GatanaterAye, I have a team.

Gatanater
Dogfloaties
Rainy
LinkUser
Photon
Technosex

What's your team name? And Photon needs to pay unless he's on the list under a different name.

[quote=Gatanater]Aye, I have a team.

Gatanater
Dogfloaties
Rainy
LinkUser
Photon
Technosex[/quote]

What's your team name? And Photon needs to pay unless he's on the list under a different name.
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#334
3 Frags +

scout lft

scout lft
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#335
5 Frags +

yo can a temp subforum be set up so it's easier to find players/teams for gxl
or even a permanent subforum dedicated to lan teams

yo can a temp subforum be set up so it's easier to find players/teams for gxl
or even a permanent subforum dedicated to lan teams
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#336
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botmodeyo can a temp subforum be set up so it's easier to find players/teams for gxl
or even a permanent subforum dedicated to lan teams

We could make a bunch of threads in the current Recruitment forums.

[quote=botmode]yo can a temp subforum be set up so it's easier to find players/teams for gxl
or even a permanent subforum dedicated to lan teams[/quote]
We could make a bunch of threads in the current Recruitment forums.
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#337
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lft as scout/roamer/demo

lft as scout/roamer/demo
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#338
2 Frags +

lft anything but medic

lft anything but medic
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#339
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Confirmed to go and pick up Dimento (maybe Panic if he decides to go?). I'd have one spot left on the way if you are somewhere in this area http://goo.gl/2lM4Dn

Confirmed to go and pick up Dimento (maybe Panic if he decides to go?). I'd have one spot left on the way if you are somewhere in this area http://goo.gl/2lM4Dn
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#340
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TheFragileGatanaterAye, I have a team.

Gatanater
Dogfloaties
Rainy
LinkUser
Photon
Technosex

What's your team name? And Photon needs to pay unless he's on the list under a different name.

Team Name, I Tried, Mom and Photon should be payed soon. He had told me that he was going to pay.

[quote=TheFragile][quote=Gatanater]Aye, I have a team.

Gatanater
Dogfloaties
Rainy
LinkUser
Photon
Technosex[/quote]

What's your team name? And Photon needs to pay unless he's on the list under a different name.[/quote]


Team Name, I Tried, Mom and Photon should be payed soon. He had told me that he was going to pay.
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#341
2 Frags +

We should maybe think about catering? 140+ heads flooding to Wawa at the same time just isn't going to work I feel like....

We should maybe think about catering? 140+ heads flooding to Wawa at the same time just isn't going to work I feel like....
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#342
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eliWe should maybe think about catering? 140+ heads flooding to Wawa at the same time just isn't going to work I feel like....

Forget that, I'm packing Lunchables pizza in my bag.

[quote=eli]We should maybe think about catering? 140+ heads flooding to Wawa at the same time just isn't going to work I feel like....[/quote]

Forget that, I'm packing Lunchables pizza in my bag.
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#343
RGB LAN
7 Frags +

*IMPORTANT UPDATE*

Team registration is now possible through the CEVO website. You should register online instead of trying to do it at the door, considering your team's spot may not be guaranteed otherwise.

When does team registration end?

It's live until October 11th.

How many teams will be in the community tournament on Saturday?

16, plus the 4 CEVO finalists, equaling out to 20 teams in total.

What if any of the 4 CEVO finalists don't play with their starting roster on Saturday?

Their spot wouldn't be guaranteed, and they would have to sign up like any other team would.

How do I register my team for the tournament?

You may create a new team or join an existing team here.

There will be a $120.00 entry fee per team (or $20 per player) and 100% of this fee will go towards increasing the $2,000.00 base prize pool (less PayPal transaction fees). You can pay for yourself, pay for teammates, or pay for your team as a whole.

This is basically the same process as if you were signing up for the CEVO online league. The only thing you need to take note of is that you must sign up under the same email address as you did on TheGXL's website. If you have a different email address already registered with your pre-existing CEVO account, you can change your email address on your CEVO account instead of creating a new account.

What is the tournament format?

Group stage followed by double elimination.

Ideally, we want to have 16 teams heading into the double elimination bracket. This means that if more than 16 teams sign up, there will be some kind of elimination to get to 16 teams. If less than 16 teams sign up, we might use the Swiss-system to determine seeds quicker, but this isn't for certain. We'll have a better idea of what we will do closer to the LAN.

Every single match at any point will be best out of 1 map, except for grand finals.

[b][color=blue][size=16]*IMPORTANT UPDATE*[/size][/color][/b]

[url=http://cevo.com/event/tf2-gxl-2014/]Team registration is now possible through the CEVO website[/url]. You should register online instead of trying to do it at the door, considering your team's spot may not be guaranteed otherwise.

[b]When does team registration end?[/b]

It's live until October 11th.




[b]How many teams will be in the community tournament on Saturday?[/b]

16, plus the 4 CEVO finalists, equaling out to 20 teams in total.




[b]What if any of the 4 CEVO finalists don't play with their starting roster on Saturday?
[/b]
Their spot wouldn't be guaranteed, and they would have to sign up like any other team would.




[b]How do I register my team for the tournament?[/b]

[url=http://cevo.com/event/tf2-gxl-2014/register/]You may create a new team or join an existing team here.
[/url]
There will be a $120.00 entry fee per team (or $20 per player) and 100% of this fee will go towards increasing the $2,000.00 base prize pool (less PayPal transaction fees). You can pay for yourself, pay for teammates, or pay for your team as a whole.


This is basically the same process as if you were signing up for the CEVO online league. The only thing you need to take note of is that [b]you must sign up under the same email address as you did on TheGXL's website[/b]. If you have a different email address already registered with your pre-existing CEVO account, you can change your email address on your CEVO account instead of creating a new account.





[b]What is the tournament format?[/b]

Group stage followed by double elimination.

Ideally, we want to have 16 teams heading into the double elimination bracket. This means that if more than 16 teams sign up, there will be some kind of elimination to get to 16 teams. If less than 16 teams sign up, we might use the Swiss-system to determine seeds quicker, but this isn't for certain. We'll have a better idea of what we will do closer to the LAN.

Every single match at any point will be best out of 1 map, except for grand finals.
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#344
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Paid and going.

Paid and going.
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#345
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is the GXL tournament separate from the CEVO tournament?

is the GXL tournament separate from the CEVO tournament?
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#346
RGB LAN
1 Frags +

yes

CEVO-P LAN playoffs are on Friday, and the community tournament is Saturday.

yes

CEVO-P LAN playoffs are on Friday, and the community tournament is Saturday.
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#347
5 Frags +

so what youre telling me is i need to make a team that would win cevo p that has no players from cevo p in order to win the regular tournament?

sounds dumb as fuck

challenge accepted i guess...

so what youre telling me is i need to make a team that would win cevo p that has no players from cevo p in order to win the regular tournament?

sounds dumb as fuck

challenge accepted i guess...
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#348
3 Frags +
flameso what youre telling me is i need to make a team that would win cevo p that has no players from cevo p in order to win the regular tournament?

sounds dumb as fuck

challenge accepted i guess...

Glad someone said it.

[quote=flame]so what youre telling me is i need to make a team that would win cevo p that has no players from cevo p in order to win the regular tournament?

sounds dumb as fuck

challenge accepted i guess...[/quote]

Glad someone said it.
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#349
11 Frags +

wait another point, theres no tf2 on friday except to watch nerds duke it out for cevo p in person?

you should change the gxl dates from friday/sat/sunday to just sat then... like why did i just book a 3 day weekend hotel from friday to sunday if i can literally only show up saturday with a pc for the day and leave that night.

You have 16 teams of 6 ~96 players + cevo ~ 24 players = 120 player maximum
You have 156 paid up already whith another 2 months until registration so lets assume another 40 people pay up and show up bringing your total attendance to 200 roughly, maybe more.
That leaves ~80 players unable to participate in the tournament which is only happening on the Saturday?

I think you need to reevaluate your position here... do you want a CEVO P final on LAN to take up an entire day of a 3 day weekend, or do you want 200 players to have a nerd out weekend on LAN for 2 and a half days.

People are literally going to show up Friday, stand around, get knocked out Saturday early since they have to play against the winners of CEVO P in a k/o tournament they can't possibly win, and then just chill around and watch.

Players flying in from Europe and all over the US for potentially 1-2 full hours of tf2 on 1 day of the 3 with a 20$ per person buy-in.

Help me understand this. Not trying to be difficult, just being real.

The reality you're setting up here is 200 people coming to PA Friday night to watch 4 teams theyve seen play a million times play TF2 live for no incentive other than potentially getting drunk then having them wake up to lose to those 4 teams they just wasted the night watching...

The concept of allowing the full CEVO P teams to play in the buy in tournament seems almost as ridiculous as making people play $20 a head for potentially 3 games of TF2.

Now everyone who isnt in CEVO P can compete for 5th place and the top 4 teams that just won money from CEVO can win more money from the rest of the people who attended to play for 2-3 hrs max and watch them.

or am i wrong?

wait another point, theres no tf2 on friday except to watch nerds duke it out for cevo p in person?

you should change the gxl dates from friday/sat/sunday to just sat then... like why did i just book a 3 day weekend hotel from friday to sunday if i can literally only show up saturday with a pc for the day and leave that night.

You have 16 teams of 6 ~96 players + cevo ~ 24 players = 120 player maximum
You have 156 paid up already whith another 2 months until registration so lets assume another 40 people pay up and show up bringing your total attendance to 200 roughly, maybe more.
That leaves ~80 players unable to participate in the tournament which is only happening on the Saturday?

I think you need to reevaluate your position here... do you want a CEVO P final on LAN to take up an entire day of a 3 day weekend, or do you want 200 players to have a nerd out weekend on LAN for 2 and a half days.

People are literally going to show up Friday, stand around, get knocked out Saturday early since they have to play against the winners of CEVO P in a k/o tournament they can't possibly win, and then just chill around and watch.

Players flying in from Europe and all over the US for potentially 1-2 full hours of tf2 on 1 day of the 3 with a 20$ per person buy-in.

Help me understand this. Not trying to be difficult, just being real.

The reality you're setting up here is 200 people coming to PA Friday night to watch 4 teams theyve seen play a million times play TF2 live for no incentive other than potentially getting drunk then having them wake up to lose to those 4 teams they just wasted the night watching...

The concept of allowing the full CEVO P teams to play in the buy in tournament seems almost as ridiculous as making people play $20 a head for potentially 3 games of TF2.

Now everyone who isnt in CEVO P can compete for 5th place and the top 4 teams that just won money from CEVO can win more money from the rest of the people who attended to play for 2-3 hrs max and watch them.

or am i wrong?
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#350
4 Frags +

well put flame. When you put it that way I think I'd rather just work that weekend and make some money.

well put flame. When you put it that way I think I'd rather just work that weekend and make some money.
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#351
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thrasherwell put flame. When you put it that way I think I'd rather just work that weekend and make some money.

im weighing my options and im down to chill with tf2 nerds for a weekend, but its looking like playing has 0 incentive and will be a waste of money, time, and the risk of damaging my tower in the car ride/transportation

[quote=thrasher]well put flame. When you put it that way I think I'd rather just work that weekend and make some money.[/quote]

im weighing my options and im down to chill with tf2 nerds for a weekend, but its looking like playing has 0 incentive and will be a waste of money, time, and the risk of damaging my tower in the car ride/transportation
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#352
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Walking away empty handed actually had nothing to do with anything in my post.

Walking away empty handed actually had nothing to do with anything in my post.
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#353
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yeah flame, i'm thinking of not even bringing my computer and just going to meet everyone

yeah flame, i'm thinking of not even bringing my computer and just going to meet everyone
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#354
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ded

ded
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#355
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Yeah same. It's more about having fun, and like flame said some teams may only get 3 games in before they are knocked out. $20 entry, $40+ for the GXL ticket, hotel & transportation fees (not an issue for me since I live really close), and time off from work means a smaller paycheck that week.

Just doesnt seem worth it. In the past I always ran a draft tournament on Friday night, and then we had a real tournament on Saturday but because of the CEVO finals its gonna really cut down on gaming time for everyone not on one of those CEVO teams.

I'm really leaning towards skipping GXL and just inviting my friends who are gonna be in town over to my place since seeing them is really the only incentive to go.

Yeah same. It's more about having fun, and like flame said some teams may only get 3 games in before they are knocked out. $20 entry, $40+ for the GXL ticket, hotel & transportation fees (not an issue for me since I live really close), and time off from work means a smaller paycheck that week.

Just doesnt seem worth it. In the past I always ran a draft tournament on Friday night, and then we had a real tournament on Saturday but because of the CEVO finals its gonna really cut down on gaming time for everyone not on one of those CEVO teams.

I'm really leaning towards skipping GXL and just inviting my friends who are gonna be in town over to my place since seeing them is really the only incentive to go.
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#356
Ascent
5 Frags +

do you really think people are just going to stop playing tf2 as soon as they're knocked out of the one tournament? people will be starting pugs and other events playing tf2 all weekend long.

and also about the cevo lan finals, I know you don't want to watch the nerds play the finals but I know that a lot of other people would enjoy watching the teams play live, and people who don't want to watch the teams play live will be pugging etc.

do you really think people are just going to stop playing tf2 as soon as they're knocked out of the one tournament? people will be starting pugs and other events playing tf2 all weekend long.

and also about the cevo lan finals, I know you don't want to watch the nerds play the finals but I know that a lot of other people would enjoy watching the teams play live, and people who don't want to watch the teams play live will be pugging etc.
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#357
CEVO
2 Frags +
thrasherJust doesnt seem worth it. In the past I always ran a draft tournament on Friday night, and then we had a real tournament on Saturday but because of the CEVO finals its gonna really cut down on gaming time for everyone not on one of those CEVO teams..

Is there some reason that you can't play TF2 while the CEVO-P Playoffs are happening? If you aren't interested in watching the finals, there's no reason why you can't pug, scrim, pub, or even organize your own tournament in the BYOC...is there?

[quote=thrasher]Just doesnt seem worth it. In the past I always ran a draft tournament on Friday night, and then we had a real tournament on Saturday but because of the CEVO finals its gonna really cut down on gaming time for everyone not on one of those CEVO teams..[/quote]
Is there some reason that you can't play TF2 while the CEVO-P Playoffs are happening? If you aren't interested in watching the finals, there's no reason why you can't pug, scrim, pub, or even organize your own tournament in the BYOC...is there?
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#358
2 Frags +

You guys seem to be missing the point that you're asking for $60 to buy into a tournament that is only 1 day long and only announcing that its 1 day long AFTER you hype everyone to show up for a 3 day event

then on top of that you're telling people 'this will be the biggest lan in tf2 history' when in reality its just an extended CEVO P season for the top 4 teams with a larger prizepool.

I also never said anyone was going to stop playing tf2 when they got knocked out... im asking why bother even competing?

This isnt an iSeries lan so don't compare it to that either. This was advertised as a community ran LAN, where now I can't even make a team with my best friend clockwork because he has to play with Froyotech for his extended CEVO P season through Saturday.

Thanks.

You guys seem to be missing the point that you're asking for $60 to buy into a tournament that is only 1 day long and only announcing that its 1 day long AFTER you hype everyone to show up for a 3 day event

then on top of that you're telling people 'this will be the biggest lan in tf2 history' when in reality its just an extended CEVO P season for the top 4 teams with a larger prizepool.

I also never said anyone was going to stop playing tf2 when they got knocked out... im asking why bother even competing?

This isnt an iSeries lan so don't compare it to that either. This was advertised as a community ran LAN, where now I can't even make a team with my best friend clockwork because he has to play with Froyotech for his extended CEVO P season through Saturday.

Thanks.
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#359
-2 Frags +
CEVOPipherthrasherJust doesnt seem worth it. In the past I always ran a draft tournament on Friday night, and then we had a real tournament on Saturday but because of the CEVO finals its gonna really cut down on gaming time for everyone not on one of those CEVO teams.. Is there some reason that you can't play TF2 while the CEVO-P Playoffs are happening? If you aren't interested in watching the finals, there's no reason why you can't pug, scrim, pub, or even organize your own tournament in the BYOC...is there?

Don't get me wrong, I think getting LANs for CEVO is a good thing. It'll help the community finally leave ESEA (the lack of LANs was the major hang up for a lot of people),

The problem with your ideas (and this is coming from someone who has both assisted with and run the GXL tournaments solo over the years) are that a lot of people show up late on Friday. That's why we did a draft tournament. Not many people there so it was something fun to do. This year is going to be much much bigger so there will be more players there on Friday, but odds are a lot of them won't be interested in pugs since they will want to watch the CEVO finals.

Saturday is going to be the same deal. Teams that get knocked out early will either be in a bad mood and not want to pug, or they will just want to spectate the rest of the time.

Oh, and pubbing is horrible.

[quote=CEVOPipher][quote=thrasher]Just doesnt seem worth it. In the past I always ran a draft tournament on Friday night, and then we had a real tournament on Saturday but because of the CEVO finals its gonna really cut down on gaming time for everyone not on one of those CEVO teams..[/quote] Is there some reason that you can't play TF2 while the CEVO-P Playoffs are happening? If you aren't interested in watching the finals, there's no reason why you can't pug, scrim, pub, or even organize your own tournament in the BYOC...is there?[/quote]


Don't get me wrong, I think getting LANs for CEVO is a good thing. It'll help the community finally leave ESEA (the lack of LANs was the major hang up for a lot of people),

The problem with your ideas (and this is coming from someone who has both assisted with and run the GXL tournaments solo over the years) are that a lot of people show up late on Friday. That's why we did a draft tournament. Not many people there so it was something fun to do. This year is going to be much much bigger so there will be more players there on Friday, but odds are a lot of them won't be interested in pugs since they will want to watch the CEVO finals.

Saturday is going to be the same deal. Teams that get knocked out early will either be in a bad mood and not want to pug, or they will just want to spectate the rest of the time.

Oh, and pubbing is horrible.
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#360
4 Frags +
flameYou guys seem to be missing the point that you're asking for $60 to buy into a tournament that is only 1 day long and only announcing that its 1 day long AFTER you hype everyone to show up for a 3 day event

1) The tournament buy-in is $20. The other 40 you are paying for the event. How else would you want it? The buy-in goes directly to the prize pool, and there wouldn't be an event if people didn't have to pay for it.

2) It was pretty clear from the start that the tournament was only on 1 day.

3) Look at WCRV for example, the event was only 1 day, and didn't even have an official tournament, yet people still spend similar amounts of money to go to it. Like you said, this is a community LAN, so why are you concerned with competition. Concern yourself with meeting the community and playing fun tf2.

[quote=flame]You guys seem to be missing the point that you're asking for $60 to buy into a tournament that is only 1 day long and only announcing that its 1 day long AFTER you hype everyone to show up for a 3 day event[/quote]

1) The tournament buy-in is $20. The other 40 you are paying for the event. How else would you want it? The buy-in goes directly to the prize pool, and there wouldn't be an event if people didn't have to pay for it.

2) It was pretty clear from the start that the tournament was only on 1 day.

3) Look at WCRV for example, the event was only 1 day, and didn't even have an official tournament, yet people still spend similar amounts of money to go to it. Like you said, this is a community LAN, so why are you concerned with competition. Concern yourself with meeting the community and playing fun tf2.
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