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Slight freezes
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#31
Valve
16 Frags +
ilikesheepcl_loadondemand_default 0 Didn't seem to fix it for me :(

You need to restart TF2 completely (exit from the main menu) after setting cl_loadondemand_default 0, it must be set when the app starts up. Did you do so? (Please let me know!)

Thanks!

[quote=ilikesheep]cl_loadondemand_default 0 Didn't seem to fix it for me :( [/quote]

You need to restart TF2 completely (exit from the main menu) after setting cl_loadondemand_default 0, it must be set when the app starts up. Did you do so? (Please let me know!)

Thanks!
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#32
6 Frags +

"cl_loadondemand_default 1" gave me stuttering issues which are mostly fixed by setting it to 0 via my autoexec.cfg (hard to tell on my not so great rig)

Specs:
2.4 GHz Core i7 (I7-2760QM)
8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM
AMD Radeon HD 6770M 1024 MB

Ecstatic that the TF2 team has someone perusing the forums for feedback. Here's to hoping invisible players get fixed and maybe a client cvar to disable hats falling on the ground. I keep trying to pick them up for ammo. :-/

"cl_loadondemand_default 1" gave me stuttering issues which are mostly fixed by setting it to 0 via my autoexec.cfg (hard to tell on my not so great rig)

Specs:
2.4 GHz Core i7 (I7-2760QM)
8 GB 1333 MHz DDR3 RAM
AMD Radeon HD 6770M 1024 MB

Ecstatic that the TF2 team has someone perusing the forums for feedback. Here's to hoping invisible players get fixed and maybe a client cvar to disable hats falling on the ground. I keep trying to pick them up for ammo. :-/
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#33
2 Frags +
You need to restart TF2 completely (exit from the main menu) after setting cl_loadondemand_default 0, it must be set when the app starts up. Did you do so? (Please let me know!)

Thanks!

Seems to be working fine, thanks for the help

[quote]You need to restart TF2 completely (exit from the main menu) after setting cl_loadondemand_default 0, it must be set when the app starts up. Did you do so? (Please let me know!)

Thanks![/quote]

Seems to be working fine, thanks for the help
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#34
10 Frags +

john for player of the season, was helpful in a series of emails regarding my rig

john for player of the season, was helpful in a series of emails regarding my rig
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#35
-2 Frags +

Anyone still having this problem? just started experiencing it out of nowhere (well actually after the Nvidia update)

Already tried that command but did nothing for me..

edit;
just going to try a full restart of pc, no idea what is going on and why

Just ignore this comment, after I restarted my pc everything seems to be fine, for now

Anyone still having this problem? just started experiencing it out of nowhere (well actually after the Nvidia update)

Already tried that command but did nothing for me..

edit;
just going to try a full restart of pc, no idea what is going on and why

Just ignore this comment, after I restarted my pc everything seems to be fine, for now
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#36
4 Frags +
ExquisiteStoneAnyone still having this problem? just started experiencing it out of nowhere (well actually after the Nvidia update)

Already tried that command but did nothing for me..

edit;
just going to try a full restart of pc, no idea what is going on and why

I am. And it seems to be when someone joins/spawns (can't tell which). When I am playing DM the moment someone joins a team my game stutters

[quote=ExquisiteStone]Anyone still having this problem? just started experiencing it out of nowhere (well actually after the Nvidia update)

Already tried that command but did nothing for me..

edit;
just going to try a full restart of pc, no idea what is going on and why[/quote]

I am. And it seems to be when someone joins/spawns (can't tell which). When I am playing DM the moment someone joins a team my game stutters
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#37
-2 Frags +
Knuckles_ExquisiteStoneAnyone still having this problem? just started experiencing it out of nowhere (well actually after the Nvidia update)

Already tried that command but did nothing for me..

edit;
just going to try a full restart of pc, no idea what is going on and why

I am. And it seems to be when someone joins/spawns (can't tell which). When I am playing DM the moment someone joins a team my game stutters

Ye I think all match servers are having that problem unfortunately

[quote=Knuckles_][quote=ExquisiteStone]Anyone still having this problem? just started experiencing it out of nowhere (well actually after the Nvidia update)

Already tried that command but did nothing for me..

edit;
just going to try a full restart of pc, no idea what is going on and why[/quote]

I am. And it seems to be when someone joins/spawns (can't tell which). When I am playing DM the moment someone joins a team my game stutters[/quote]
Ye I think all match servers are having that problem unfortunately
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#38
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ExquisiteStoneKnuckles_ExquisiteStoneAnyone still having this problem? just started experiencing it out of nowhere (well actually after the Nvidia update)

Already tried that command but did nothing for me..

edit;
just going to try a full restart of pc, no idea what is going on and why

I am. And it seems to be when someone joins/spawns (can't tell which). When I am playing DM the moment someone joins a team my game stutters
Ye I think all match servers are having that problem unfortunately

Are these the stutters we are all feeling? And if so John do you understand why this is an issue?

[quote=ExquisiteStone][quote=Knuckles_][quote=ExquisiteStone]Anyone still having this problem? just started experiencing it out of nowhere (well actually after the Nvidia update)

Already tried that command but did nothing for me..

edit;
just going to try a full restart of pc, no idea what is going on and why[/quote]

I am. And it seems to be when someone joins/spawns (can't tell which). When I am playing DM the moment someone joins a team my game stutters[/quote]
Ye I think all match servers are having that problem unfortunately[/quote]

Are these the stutters we are all feeling? And if so John do you understand why this is an issue?
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#39
3 Frags +

I've got the same issue regardless of what server I'm on. whenever someone joins, my game hangs for half a second
both cl_loadondemand_default 0 and 1 did nothing to help whatsoever

I've got the same issue regardless of what server I'm on. whenever someone joins, my game hangs for half a second
both cl_loadondemand_default 0 and 1 did nothing to help whatsoever
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#40
4 Frags +

same here

these freezes started like 3 weeks ago

same here

these freezes started like 3 weeks ago
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#41
0 Frags +

Still get pretty steady stuttering/freezes even with this new cl_loadondemand_default 0 command.

I've tried fiddling with vysnc, fps_max cap, mat queue modes, reinstalling drivers, cleaning out fans.

Really annoying when every second is precious during 6's play.

Specs:

Nvidia 670 GTX
i5 3570K 3.4 Ghz
16 GB DDR3 RAM

TF2 is installed on a regular 2 TB HDD.

Still get pretty steady stuttering/freezes even with this new cl_loadondemand_default 0 command.

I've tried fiddling with vysnc, fps_max cap, mat queue modes, reinstalling drivers, cleaning out fans.

Really annoying when every second is precious during 6's play.

Specs:

Nvidia 670 GTX
i5 3570K 3.4 Ghz
16 GB DDR3 RAM

TF2 is installed on a regular 2 TB HDD.
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#42
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Getting these as well. They are more prevalent in pubs, but happen everywhere regardless.

Specs:

Radeon 6770
AMD Phenom II 3.4 Ghz Quad Core
16 GB DDR3 RAM

cl_loadondemand 0 nor 1 have helped. I've tried putting both of them into my autoexec and restarting my game, my computer, and even tried turning them on and off in game. Nothing has helped.

Getting these as well. They are more prevalent in pubs, but happen everywhere regardless.

Specs:

Radeon 6770
AMD Phenom II 3.4 Ghz Quad Core
16 GB DDR3 RAM

cl_loadondemand 0 nor 1 have helped. I've tried putting both of them into my autoexec and restarting my game, my computer, and even tried turning them on and off in game. Nothing has helped.
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#43
12 Frags +

Im still just sitting here. amazed that someone from valve has posted to help us.

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THANK YOU!!!!

That said i've been experiencing these issues as well. I'll be trying cl_loadondemand_default 0 in my autoexec and seeing if that helps. I play tf2 on a 7200 rpm HDD.

Im still just sitting here. amazed that someone from valve has posted to help us. [spoiler]THANK YOU!!!![/spoiler]


That said i've been experiencing these issues as well. I'll be trying cl_loadondemand_default 0 in my autoexec and seeing if that helps. I play tf2 on a 7200 rpm HDD.
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#44
0 Frags +

does anyone have a link to the .exe that defrags your tf2 .vpk files?

does anyone have a link to the .exe that defrags your tf2 .vpk files?
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#45
1 Frags +
Khakidoes anyone have a link to the .exe that defrags your tf2 .vpk files?

http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?p=26
http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/files/files/gcfscape185.zip

[quote=Khaki]does anyone have a link to the .exe that defrags your tf2 .vpk files?[/quote]
http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/index.php?p=26
http://nemesis.thewavelength.net/files/files/gcfscape185.zip
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#46
1 Frags +

with samsung 840 ssd, gtx 570gtx, xeon 1230v2 i still lag :/ even with the command
cl_loadondemand_default 0

with samsung 840 ssd, gtx 570gtx, xeon 1230v2 i still lag :/ even with the command
cl_loadondemand_default 0
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#47
Valve
8 Frags +

Could someone (or ideally several someones) do me a favor and try the following test?

In your autoexec.cfg, find mat_queue_mode and modify it to be -1, and set cl_loadondemand_default to be 1. Then launch tf2 and see if you still get stuttering?

That is, in autoexec.cfg:

mat_queue_mode -1 // This is probably in there somewhere already, or at least is if you use Chris' FPS configs.
cl_loadondemand_default 1

Thanks in advance!

Could someone (or ideally several someones) do me a favor and try the following test?

In your autoexec.cfg, find mat_queue_mode and modify it to be -1, and set cl_loadondemand_default to be 1. Then launch tf2 and see if you still get stuttering?

That is, in autoexec.cfg:

[code]mat_queue_mode -1 // This is probably in there somewhere already, or at least is if you use Chris' FPS configs.
cl_loadondemand_default 1[/code]

Thanks in advance!
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#48
1 Frags +
vMcJohnCould someone (or ideally several someones) do me a favor and try the following test?

In your autoexec.cfg, find mat_queue_mode and modify it to be -1, and set cl_loadondemand_default to be 1. Then launch tf2 and see if you still get stuttering?

That is, in autoexec.cfg:
mat_queue_mode -1 // This is probably in there somewhere already, or at least is if you use Chris' FPS configs.
cl_loadondemand_default 1

Thanks in advance!

Was running

cl_loadondemand_default 0
mat_queue_mode 2

and got no stutter

tried out the settings you said I should try and no stutter either!

[quote=vMcJohn]Could someone (or ideally several someones) do me a favor and try the following test?

In your autoexec.cfg, find mat_queue_mode and modify it to be -1, and set cl_loadondemand_default to be 1. Then launch tf2 and see if you still get stuttering?

That is, in autoexec.cfg:

[code]mat_queue_mode -1 // This is probably in there somewhere already, or at least is if you use Chris' FPS configs.
cl_loadondemand_default 1[/code]

Thanks in advance![/quote]
Was running
[code]
cl_loadondemand_default 0
mat_queue_mode 2[/code]
and got no stutter

tried out the settings you said I should try and no stutter either!
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#49
1 Frags +
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I tried running with

mat_queue_mode -1
cl_loadondemand_default 1

as well as

cl_loadondemand_default 0
mat_queue_mode 2

And both were lagging for me as well. I'm pretty sure its just my crappy internet, but it happened about the same time that everybody else starting having problems.

Running TF2 off of 2x 7200RPM HDD in raid 0.
AMD PhenomII X4 965 3.4 GHz
8GB DDR2
ATI 5850 HD

[spoiler][img]http://i.imgur.com/pK6EBcB.jpg[/img]image[/spoiler]

I tried running with

[code]mat_queue_mode -1
cl_loadondemand_default 1[/code]

as well as
[code]cl_loadondemand_default 0
mat_queue_mode 2[/code]

And both were lagging for me as well. I'm pretty sure its just my crappy internet, but it happened about the same time that everybody else starting having problems.

Running TF2 off of 2x 7200RPM HDD in raid 0.
AMD PhenomII X4 965 3.4 GHz
8GB DDR2
ATI 5850 HD
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#50
2 Frags +

Intel i5 i4670k
8gb ram
hd7850 2gb

cl_loadondemand_default 0
mat_queue_mode 2
- Stuttering/freezing

mat_queue_mode -1
cl_loadondemand_default 1
- Stuttering/freezing

Intel i5 i4670k
8gb ram
hd7850 2gb

cl_loadondemand_default 0
mat_queue_mode 2
- Stuttering/freezing

mat_queue_mode -1
cl_loadondemand_default 1
- Stuttering/freezing
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#51
0 Frags +
vMcJohnHi folks,

I implemented this feature, sorry it's causing you grief! If you're having trouble with it (and it sounds like a lot of you are), would you mind posting your system specs? I'm additionally interested in whether you run off of an SSD or an HDD.

If you'd prefer to email me, feel free to do so at mcjohn at valvesoftware dot com.

Thanks in advance,

-McJohn

mat_queue_mode -1
cl_loadondemand_default 1 // experience extra/new stuttering
cl_loadondemand_default 0 // extra/new stuttering went away

AMD Phenom 2 X4 940-series 3.0ghz
8 GB 400mhz DDR2 RAM (4x2GB)
16GB pagefile
Motherboard GA-MA78GM-S2H
System/Steam/TF2 HDD ST1000DM003-1CH162 (1 TB; 832 GB system partition free space varies around ~15 GB; other partitions unused)
in case it matters, AMD Radeon HD 5770 http://puu.sh/bLV3y/340551f0e0.png

[quote=vMcJohn]Hi folks,

I implemented this feature, sorry it's causing you grief! If you're having trouble with it (and it sounds like a lot of you are), would you mind posting your system specs? I'm additionally interested in whether you run off of an SSD or an HDD.

If you'd prefer to email me, feel free to do so at mcjohn at valvesoftware dot com.


Thanks in advance,

-McJohn[/quote]

mat_queue_mode -1
cl_loadondemand_default 1 // experience extra/new stuttering
cl_loadondemand_default 0 // extra/new stuttering went away

AMD Phenom 2 X4 940-series 3.0ghz
8 GB 400mhz DDR2 RAM (4x2GB)
16GB pagefile
Motherboard GA-MA78GM-S2H
System/Steam/TF2 HDD ST1000DM003-1CH162 (1 TB; 832 GB system partition free space varies around ~15 GB; other partitions unused)
in case it matters, AMD Radeon HD 5770 http://puu.sh/bLV3y/340551f0e0.png
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#52
3 Frags +

So

mat_queue_mode -1
cl_loadondemand_default 0

is the way to go?

So

mat_queue_mode -1
cl_loadondemand_default 0

is the way to go?
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#53
0 Frags +

cl_loadondemand_default 0
mat_queue_mode 2
- Stuttering/freezing

wish to bump this thread since last week i started to get like stutters every 5 minutes and freeze once every beginning of a match when its mp_tournament
this got significantly worse since the freeze/stutters started aprox 1month ago

cl_loadondemand_default 0
mat_queue_mode 2
- Stuttering/freezing

wish to bump this thread since last week i started to get like stutters every 5 minutes and freeze once every beginning of a match when its mp_tournament
this got significantly worse since the freeze/stutters started aprox 1month ago
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#54
1 Frags +

Saw this got bumped so I decided to hop on.

For the last ~3 weeks (ever since the update caused this), for every night, the server (no matter which) would stutter for a short second or so everytime someone switches class.

This would have happened to everyone on the server, this only occurred on match servers.
Not sure if this is server plugin-side or what (sourcemod/TFTrue) would cause this.

Saw this got bumped so I decided to hop on.

For the last ~3 weeks (ever since the update caused this), for every night, the server (no matter which) would stutter for a short second or so everytime someone switches class.

This would have happened to everyone on the server, this only occurred on match servers.
Not sure if this is server plugin-side or what (sourcemod/TFTrue) would cause this.
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#55
1 Frags +

Thought it was working...Turns out it wasn't. Tried all the combinations of settings from above
PC Specs :
GeForce GTX 660 Ti
8GB Ram
Intel Core i7-3770 @3.40 Ghz
Windows 8

Thought it was working...Turns out it wasn't. Tried all the combinations of settings from above
PC Specs :
GeForce GTX 660 Ti
8GB Ram
Intel Core i7-3770 @3.40 Ghz
Windows 8
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#56
1 Frags +

jackylegs, i cannot reproduce that description.
also my friend mentioned he stutters when someone joined during hl match.
seems the stutters/freeze occur randomely

jackylegs, i cannot reproduce that description.
also my friend mentioned he stutters when someone joined during hl match.
seems the stutters/freeze occur randomely
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#57
3 Frags +

im not sure if this is relevent to this issue but i noticed since the update from last week i start to get alot more screen tearing on tf2. this is the first time i get ALOT of screen tearing since i started playing tf2 comp. 2 years

im not sure why but playing cs go doesnt give me ANY screen tearing at all no matter what server i use.
while tf2 gives me 14 screen tearing during fast movement when i used to get 1-2 before the update

im not sure if this is relevent to this issue but i noticed since the update from last week i start to get alot more screen tearing on tf2. this is the first time i get ALOT of screen tearing since i started playing tf2 comp. 2 years

im not sure why but playing cs go doesnt give me ANY screen tearing at all no matter what server i use.
while tf2 gives me 14 screen tearing during fast movement when i used to get 1-2 before the update
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#58
0 Frags +

So is there still no fix for this? I'd really like to get a nonstuttering game before gxl...I suppose it's too late

So is there still no fix for this? I'd really like to get a nonstuttering game before gxl...I suppose it's too late
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#59
0 Frags +

just dropping by to say that i'm also experiencing these short freezes. i've tried mat_que_mode 2 with cl_loadondemand_default 0, mat_que_mode -1 with cl_loadondemand_default 1 and mat_que_mode -1 with cl_loadondemand_default 0.

just dropping by to say that i'm also experiencing these short freezes. i've tried mat_que_mode 2 with cl_loadondemand_default 0, mat_que_mode -1 with cl_loadondemand_default 1 and mat_que_mode -1 with cl_loadondemand_default 0.
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#60
0 Frags +

I'm getting the stuttering as well... maybe every 30 seconds or so. Sometimes it's less, which is odd. It's very jarring, as not only does the fps stutter, but the game sound cuts for a split second as well.

On the sound note, every once in awhile... maybe one out of ten startups, the sound in the game is all static and weird. If I restart tf2 it generally goes away, so it's not a huge issue. But it doesn't bode well, right? Any ideas anyone?

I'm getting the stuttering as well... maybe every 30 seconds or so. Sometimes it's less, which is odd. It's very jarring, as not only does the fps stutter, but the game sound cuts for a split second as well.

On the sound note, every once in awhile... maybe one out of ten startups, the sound in the game is all static and weird. If I restart tf2 it generally goes away, so it's not a huge issue. But it doesn't bode well, right? Any ideas anyone?
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