I understand, they all look so good tho

To people who say "i don't want to release it until it's finished" (aka everyone, not just harvard): if that's your attitude then don't post pictures. You're not honestly looking for feedback.

If you are genuinely hoping to improve your hud: posting a download link is a great way to do so! It's the equivalent of an open-source project. Most people who actively check this thread know how to edit huds, and maybe they can make something good out of your work, which you can then improve on, and then someone else tweaks it, etc. Hell, just throw a download link up for the .res file you screenshotted and people can change the font and implement it into their hud. There's literally no reason not to do the above. It's tf2 so i hope no one cares about their work being 'stolen' or something, and otherwise you look like you're just jerking yourself off to plus frags (which I'm honestly pretty sure most some of you are).

/rant

^ couldn't agree more. this has been going on for far too long

^ Couldn't agree more to this agree

^ couldn't think you were dumber

Thread is called "Show your HUD modifications" though.

ok i'll start a thread called Share your HUD modifications, happy?

I don't think anyone is entitled to anybody else's modification, so please stop getting annoyed when someone doesn't have a dl. This thread is brilliant for many reasons, and it's a central place for hud progress.

This isn't just a "show" thread, either. It's a feedback and sharing thread. Some people here are actively developing HUDs for a full release, and don't want an unfinished version floating around, especially with how many questions the average hud developer gets anyway.

Stop being so childish about the fact someone didn't give you the dl for a modification that anybody could replicate. I support the sharing of HUDs and ideas, but not everyone wants feedback by giving you the hud. Instead of moaning about it in the thread, add the person who made it. Let them know your interest in trying out the HUD and your willingness to deliver feedback.

Also, in response to allowing people to have files that you are working on for full HUD releases, bullshit. There is a sense of developer/designers pride when you find a nice, different way of approaching something. As soon as it's done, it's open to the world, but respect the persons choice of how and when they wish to release it. I don't see anything wrong with that.

gets pretty stupid when the whole thread is just 2-3 people giving a couple of screenshots while tweaking their nipples to the thought of getting upfragged

I don't post things for the soul purpose of people giving frags or whatever. There have been times when I have posted really dumb things that I wanted feedback for because I was unsure of how I felt about it. I do plan to release all of my little broken hud projects for those who would want them, but for now I'd like to finish a somewhat more solid hud idea I have going on. I sometimes completely drop a hud. Not even sometimes. I drop a hud because of the complications that I could have with it or just losing all interest/ideas for it. Lastly, I really do not want to give out broken huds to people such as the last one I've done. That picture was literally as far as I got. Meaning only the things on scout that you see in that screenshot would not be broken. Meaning without any meters, targetids, damage numbers, health pickups, killstreak or timer would have been modified and work properly(at least on a 1920x1080 res).

Idk....I think handing out ur work to people is a pretty good form of feedback through testing ingame (what is a beta?) rather than just being like hey guys have a look at my main menu which I worked forever on but the rest of my huds gonna be garbage or just look like ya_hud

Also you're right about the modifications that anybody could replicate. However it's nice for those who don't have the time or patience to put the effort in to learn hud editing and get good at it. Whilst colly and the rest certainly can make some very nice and "unique" things the ideas seem to get ditched every week. why not share ditched ideas to expand existing knowledge of huds rather than just leaving them behind and starting "fresh"?.

and also to be honest as far as originality goes im pretty sure i've seen the same style spechud like 16 times from so many people in this thread

I agree, but as I said, not everyone wants feedback in the form of open public testing. Most just want design feedback, which can be given with images. It's down to the discretion of the developer.

And if you're worried about something being dumped, bring it up with the person who made it. Ask them if they'll use it, and if not, if it could be distributed. Similar situation happened when I dumped the files for the CSGO hud I was working on that I ended up canning. Communication isn't hard, friends. The HUD development community isn't a competition, but I do like to see the hard work and new ideas be released with a project that person created.

Can we get back to seeing some nice HUDs now. That'd be way better than this dumb shit.

Agree

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/3280058773004485980/D736FC9A13361804C5A5627E58965B5B504B3662/

http://cloud-3.steampowered.com/ugc/3280058773004136427/2B9E7E5EE93FB85C359758BA780E8A268A3FAA9F/

sry guys no dl its private dont copy me thanks

hey man looks really nice dl?

Stop being a fucking baby

if you are legitimately looking for criticism or feedback on a hud make it evident in your post what you're looking for in regards to that feedback. out of context screenshots of a nice looking hud aren't going to get any good advice, and to the average reader of this thread just seem like fishing for frags, regardless of actual intentions.

Incoming wall of text sorry friends.

If there were a large group of people who were genuinely asking for and receiving feedback I would have no issue with it, but it seems to me the majority of this thread has become just posting images with no caption specifying feedback, which results in the four posts after that image being "dl?!!?! omg!!" and then another image, etc etc. If people even said "+frag if you like it -frag if you don't" I'd have been less inclined to make my post. But they don't. It's just an image of something random. If people are looking for design feedback, wouldn't they provide a question specifying which part they wanted feedback on? Or several different images with different options and asking people to choose? Mince put it better than I did.

Instead we just get these "teaser" pictures, which is what I really have an issue with. They were whom I was addressing in my post, NOT people like those you described. There's just no point and it's rather annoying.

As for your idea about adding the person (maybe I have a different view on this than most people), it seems rather rude to add someone just to ask them if you can try the hud. I've added several hud editors to ask them how they did something or what font they used, or if I could have one of their .vtfs, but asking to be a beta tester seems a little strange to me. Is there a tangible or practical reason to not publicly release a couple of the relevant files, rather than somehow expecting people to take the initiative and add you? Releasing just a couple .res files would surely need some work in clientscheme and hudlayout to actually work or look good, so it would probably only be used by people who knew what they were doing. There you have your small group of exclusive beta testers, with less knowledgable testers automatically weeded out by hud-editing prowess.

Or you can simply do something like I (not to toot my own horn) did earlier in this thread:
here's my image post specifying what feedback I wanted.
here's my disclaimer and download link

I see no reason not to do the above. I have a great amount of pride in my work, I would NEVER release a hud that's not finished to my standards (except for vaccinator which I refuse to do on principle until valve fixes the shadow bullshit). I just can't see any reason why, if you don't want to put up a download link until it's done (which I COMPLETELY understand), you would then post pictures without asking for feedback. Just seems stupid to me.

IDK, I never wanted to come across as whiny, just don't see the point of a ton of pictures of some obscure and random ideas with no download. What you did with the CSGO hud is perfect. You decided not to make a full hud and so you put up a download so people could finish it if they so desired. To single out colly again (this is, just like the first time, mostly a joke, colly's my best steam-group-creating friend), is he ever going to really FINISH any of these three different things he's been fucking around with into a full hud ?

It's possible, but I doubt it.

Honestly, if Colly has stopped work on this, I just want to try and make it work for my own personal use. If others want it, I'll put that up, but credit him.

That hud is perfect except for the bar on top for the timer, I think that is too big

Here are the broken huds or at least the ones I could find. I wanted to wait till after I had finished a single hud but here you go. If you're planning on finishing the hud I only ask that you add me so I can help/see progress. Keep in mind these huds are messy and fairly broken.

Thanks, Colly. I was wondering, why is the rar so big? (329mb)

it has 14 rars inside

The title of the thread is "Show your HUD modifcations", not "Share." The OP says to share if you "don't mind." Well, some people mind. Nobody is under any obligation to share anything they post, least of all some half-baked concept or another simple font-swap. You shouldn't feel as though you are somehow entitled to anybody else's work. You're not.

They're by no means OBLIGATED to. I agree. I just think the concept of posting some pictures of a hud to show off is stupid, and said so. Different interpretations of how the thread should function are allowed, no?

However, I think the thread title and OP are moot points. I don't really think anyone makes a hud for any reason but to share it and have people enjoy it, and if that's the case I think it's frustrating for people who want to use it to be given some weak justification like "I posted a picture but it's not done" when users are capable of finishing it themselves. If someone is making a hud just for themselves or something (???!?!) and don't want to have others use it, but do want to post pictures, that is their prerogative. However, I will think of them as an asshole. I reiterate: if that's your attitude why are you posting pictures if not to show off? This is especially applicable to people who claim to be looking for feedback and are not, or those who post 'teaser' pictures.

So to clarify: you are defending the hypothetical hud maker who enjoys posting pictures of their work but not letting others use it? If they don't want to share their work why do they want others to know about it, wouldn't that just be bothersome? Why don't they want to share when regardless they're not going to receive any reward, monetary or otherwise, for their work, even if it's the most popular hud ever?

It's obvious that whatever Vile intended this thread to be is not what is now. These are no longer modifications, but creations. It's true that no one is entitled, but to appeal to the OP for what this thread was 'meant' to be is pointless. The fact of the matter is, people are creating(or not finishing) great looking huds, and posting them for the sole purpose of getting some e-popularity. It's more beneficial to post download links of a finished hud then to post a half-finished one and give up on it later and not provide download links.

Also, it's best that we get back to HUDS after this. Would be absolutely terrible if this thread got derailed at this point.

basically this, its just one giant tease. if you make something and you know it looks good you're gonna post it and in the back of your head you know people are gonna compliment you and ask to share. then for someone to beat around the bush or say "ehh noo sorry not done yet or this is just random im not finishing it." you come off like an asshole.

its good to take pride in your work but if you have zero intent of making it public then stop posting it ! its like you made everyone aware the moment the picture went up and then in reality you already made it public so no it isn't private anymore and for you to not give a download makes you a dick. also you should never be worried about people stealing your work because if you post something way in advance and someone uses it for their hud everyone is gonna know it. you could always ask for credit upon posting its not like you're getting paid to make a hud

since my post was what provoked this long build up of this mess, ill clarify why exactly i dont want to give a download when i post my edits

here is what im not showing you guys

http://cloud-4.steampowered.com/ugc/37476554422232554/588C5E3D49D279920234FD7DB7E5D192E83D6F50/

i have problems like this all throughout my hud, because i have changed how i want things so its broken in several areas that i havent corrected yet, there is alot of stuff like this in my hud, so why would i release a hud that is only not entirely broken specifically for the demoman because thats the only class i have fully corrected?

Yes, you should release it. What we have been saying is that even though you are having trouble, it is better to release it broken, than dangle the images in our faces, when you very well know it's not in usable state. There are competent Hud-Makers who browse threads like these, who could take that unfinished hud and add their own spin on it. Wouldn't it be fantastic that there would be multiple versions of your hud, by different people? It's beneficial to everyone in the long run. Theoretically, there could be 3x the amount of hud choices if people posted their unfinished projects. All in all, if you're gonna post an unfinished hud, post some DL links so it CAN be finished, hopefully be a plethora of others. When you release it, it's going to be public anyways, so credit isn't a problem.

im not having trouble, im saying hey this is what i made. do u think it looks good?