You should probably do your homework. School is much more important than TF2.

Unless you mean you finish your homework at school, in which case you're good

Honestly, school is just too easy; yeah, I do my homework in class. :)

Yeah, you should probably put that in the OP.

High school was pretty similar for me too, but I had a study hall as well. I never needed to study either. College is a little harder just so you know. Don't let your guard down.

Hate to do it, but: Bumpin' it!

Midair is a friend of mine, and we generally are scout buddies on 6s. He definitely has room to improve, but his game sense is great alongside decent jumping. I wish I was as decent with dodging as he wishes his aim was more like mine ;p

It's always good to see new people interested in comp TF2, however, I feel like your search might be more fruitful if you posted a LFT thread on the UGC 6v6 forums here or find teams looking for players here. Good luck!

Someone should try him out and see how good he actually is instead of assuming he should be in ugc. Who knows, maybe he can kick it in open.

Seriously, if somebody is going to dedicate what seems to be at least eight hours a day to tf2, with the right direction they are probably going to be one of the best players in open, if not tf2, by the end of the season.

As a terrible player, I'm of the opinion that everyone should play an easy season in UGC or something before playing in Open. I've mentored a lot of UGC iron/steel/completely new scouts, and they are simply not even close to ready unless they have a serious FPS background or several thousand pub hours, lobbies under their belt, watched competitive casts, etc.

I incredibly dislike this mentality and I think it's a defeatist attitude to simply think that way. You only get legitimately better by playing competition that cares. And that's going to stem from players in paid leagues. "low open" should not be "join a paid league after 123 seasons of UGC", it should be where you start as a player.

I played in open before I played in UGC and look where it got me (still in open fuckboiiiiiiss)

Honestly, starting in open might be harder, but I definitely think that people learn a lot more from playing open than UGC. Nothing against UGC, but it's just not as serious/the competition isn't exactly close to the higher end of open. In the long term, starting in open, if you're ready to maybe not do so hot at the beggining, is probably better.

But we're getting away from the subject of the thread. Best of luck to you, Midair, always cool to see new people trying to get in the comp scene.

Going along with what mana said, some people are good at learning on the go, and they can do really well if they're thrown into the mix. Of course it will probably take some extra time/effort, but this guy seems like he's willing to dedicate a significant amount of time to tf2, so maybe he can do it.

played with this kid randomly in MvM (i dont know how i remember) and is a professional robot killer. seemed pretty chill and from it looks like, has a good head on his shoulders. should give him a shot if he's willing to put in the time and effort imo.

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Still open for a team; bumpin' it!

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Sorry about being so late to this conversation, but I think he should play in UGC. Yes, he would be playing more serious teams in esea but how the hell is he supposed to become a smarter player when he's mostly playing against people with DM 1000x better than his? Ive never played with this guy but he doesnt sound like mr dml0rd420mge_master. Most of his good decisions will ultimately turn out poorly because he simply cant click on people well enough. He should play in a league where people have DM thats equal or slightly better than his so he can focus on improving his gamesense while also spending time in DM servers so that he can hang with the average open scout once the next season comes around.

Here's what would would happen if he played on an esea team with a team not good enough to completely carry him: Spawn, run to mid, lose 1v1 because the other scout is simply 10x better than him and is smart enough to exploit it, the rest of the team has the same problem so they wipe, then they get destroyed on last. Repeat that until the match is over. He'll be paying fees just to come to the wonderful conclusion that the other team can click on people better than his team can.

My first season when i played scout was in ESEA with like 200 hours on the class, even though it was horrible i learned the most from it. Also my dm improved when going against better scouts. When it comes to game sense and positioning it's better to experience it against higher level teams because you can learn from them.

And yes that would happen to him he would lose to better scouts, but its up to the player to improve because he will know that if he takes that 1v1 again the next mid he will lose unless he puts himself in a better position. I disagree on playing lower levels to improve, you have to put yourself out there to become the best. Face better players and don't get mad or butt hurt, instead learn from them.

Also it doesn't matter who clicks on the other team the best, it's more of whose more coordinated as a team because there has been hundreds of times where a team out damages, yet still loses.

When you lose, do you cry in your bed thinking about why you suck? Or do you grind more DM and get a mentor to see what you could do better. A lot of people that play against lower teams tend to develop an ego, and won't seek for assistance because they think they are not doing anything wrong. All in all it is up to the person's will to improve.

Rj, what you're saying makes sense if the other team is just a little better than yours, but do you really think people actually learn when the other team is so much better that they don't even have to play correctly to win? I know that when I'm playing people that are way below my skill level that I can do every everything I'm not supposed to do and get away with it. He'll just be learning strats that only work on people way worse than him. If playing teams that much better than mine worked i'd go pm b4nny and say "hey moneymatch!?!". There's nothing wrong with taking babysteps. He'll also have way more fun playing teams where he actually has a chance to win and he will still learn from those matches too. Some people can handle getting rolled every match for a whole season but if he's just starting out he needs a chance to develop some passion for the game before getting too serious about becoming the best. I'm guessing a lot of players get really discouraged from the game after they pay 50 bucks to get rolled 16 matches straight.

playing at your actual level is "defeatist", capn, but it you try to look for an IM team without placing in open god help you

You're also assuming all his team members are as new as he is. Or you're saying his team will lose all their games because of his inability to perform. I'd say if you're willing to improve/learn something from every scrim/match then you'll be fine.

One season of ESEA, even if you did terribly, will be better for finding a team than a season of UGC would be.

most people play on teams where they are just as skilled as their teammates. a lot of teams have a key player or two but for the most part everyone is pretty much equal. it makes a lot of sense too. if everyone is at the same level then nobody is going to get kicked for being bad and nobody will leave because they know they can join a way better team. it helps strengthen the longevity of a team. i do agree with you about a season of open looking better than a season of ugc iron 6v6 though. maybe i'm just a little ignorant about how a season of ugc actually plays out because ive never been on a serious ugc team.

is this a personal attack on me because ive never placed in open </3

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