thats fair, but id like new weapons more often than every year and a half.

For anyone interested, the EOTL soundtrack is available on Spotify and Google Play.

The soundtrack was awesome IMO and the best part about the update.

http://blog.dota2.com/2014/12/future-changes-frostivus/

Is it so bad that I want one of these for TF2? Just a post that tells the community what they are working on and what to expect?

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Called it

if only tf2 had an icefrog

Maybe if we collect enough ducks, the tf2 gods will be pleased and release cp_snowplow and new balanced weapons alongside 6v6 matchmaking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robin_Walker_(game_designer)

The sfm was good at best. I enjoyed it, but purely for the reason that it was community made. To me it seemed really awkward and drawn out. If they had spent the same time and effort on a sfm I think it could parallel the quality of the Meet The videos. I was still impressed by the amount of content in the video, even if it was not the most engaging

The train sequence was nuts. Really impressive work. Rest of update quite underwhelming.

i bought the duck and the duck tokens to support the people who worked on bringing us this community update

pretty disappointed in valve overall though :<

It would be great if he did, but robin stopped working on TF exclusively.

"Our" Icefrog is mostly concerned with DoTA too :(

Icefrog is pretty unique in that he has always been tied in with the competitive players and viewed his decisions from that angle...he's obsessive about balance and has some very good methods to achieve it over time.

Robin was never that and it's probably not realistic to expect a game to have a dev like icefrog at the helm.

In TFC Robin and his team really had very little knowledge of how the game was played at a high level and how the classes balanced beyond a basic pub setting...and even at the basic pub level they were often ignorant. (Hmm...sounds like deja vu) The few times they made tweaks they probably did even less testing than they do on TF2.

Looking back though this was probably a silver lining as a lot of tweaking by a dev not in touch with high level play just screws things up further. When the dev is hands off at least competitive players can work around the balance flaws with league rules, class limits/weapon limits etc and make it work.

Robin is/was awesome but he's not the icefrog influence you're looking for. :(

^ this. That one scene where they all crawled up and they were standing like a team. I thought it meant heavy was dead (removed from the game).

from JMcVee