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ESEA Weapon Bans
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#1
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiqicP2pfCqCdFo2V3FfTUVwbHB1YWZYYUdjVFBtVVE

Just like the previous seasons, all invite teams (minus poll team) had a chance to decide which weapons are banned. A weapon needed 4 votes to be banned. I highlighted all the weapons that were on the fence (3-4 votes) in yellow. If I forgot a weapon, just post it in comments and I'll see to it.

Enjoy.

Note: ESEA rulebook will be updated soon... I promise.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiqicP2pfCqCdFo2V3FfTUVwbHB1YWZYYUdjVFBtVVE

Just like the previous seasons, all invite teams (minus poll team) had a chance to decide which weapons are banned. A weapon needed 4 votes to be banned. I highlighted all the weapons that were on the fence (3-4 votes) in yellow. If I forgot a weapon, just post it in comments and I'll see to it.

Enjoy.



Note: ESEA rulebook will be updated soon... I promise.
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#2
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no ban on baby faces blaster? super speed here i come

no ban on baby faces blaster? super speed here i come
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#3
cp_process, cp_metalworks
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THE HEAD IS LEGAL!

THE HEAD IS LEGAL!
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#4
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Didn't expect Frontier Justice and Persian Persuader to be banned. Splendid screen and Conch have been unbanned too. Going to be interesting. Also I think danger shield ban is new too, don't remember.

Didn't expect Frontier Justice and Persian Persuader to be banned. Splendid screen and Conch have been unbanned too. Going to be interesting. Also I think danger shield ban is new too, don't remember.
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#5
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I don't see the Flying Guillotine (scout cleaver) on the weapon list. Pleasee don't ban it, it's so good.

I don't see the Flying Guillotine (scout cleaver) on the weapon list. Pleasee don't ban it, it's so good.
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#6
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that weapon is retarded, does like 60 dmg from a distance when you hit them and it makes you bleed. plus the charge up time is quick. its like a boston basher only way better definitely a pub weapon and not comp

that weapon is retarded, does like 60 dmg from a distance when you hit them and it makes you bleed. plus the charge up time is quick. its like a boston basher only way better definitely a pub weapon and not comp
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#7
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Thanks for telling me. Flying Guillotine will be banned.

Thanks for telling me. Flying Guillotine will be banned.
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#8
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breloomno ban on baby faces blaster? super speed here i come

think people chose not to ban it because its so bad.

[quote=breloom]no ban on baby faces blaster? super speed here i come[/quote]
think people chose not to ban it because its so bad.
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#9
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wazerwifleit's so good.

That's why it's banned.

[quote=wazerwifle]it's so good.[/quote]
That's why it's banned.
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#10
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Please ban things that make people bleed from distance my dx8 can't take it.

Please ban things that make people bleed from distance my dx8 can't take it.
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#11
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I DIDNT KNOW IF 1 MEANTH ALLOW OR BAN?, so I put allow and Ban. ty for putting up with me killing

I DIDNT KNOW IF 1 MEANTH ALLOW OR BAN?, so I put allow and Ban. ty for putting up with me killing
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#12
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Righteous Bison triumphant return

Righteous Bison triumphant return
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#13
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Solemn Vow is unbanned. Thoughts?

(you can see enemy uber charge)

Solemn Vow is unbanned. Thoughts?

(you can see enemy uber charge)
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#14
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waefwaefSolemn Vow is unbanned. Thoughts?

(you can see enemy uber charge)

it replaces ubersaw which i dont think most medics would bother using it, plus most of the time medics and/or pocket soldiers don't have a problem keeping track of uber advantage/disadvantage.

you hit someone with the saw you gain advantage, and if a medic spawned up i dont think he would bother switching to that weapon just to check because you would lose uber % just for going through that. you're well aware when the other team is gonna have it and you don't

[quote=waefwaef]Solemn Vow is unbanned. Thoughts?

(you can see enemy uber charge)[/quote]

it replaces ubersaw which i dont think most medics would bother using it, plus most of the time medics and/or pocket soldiers don't have a problem keeping track of uber advantage/disadvantage.

you hit someone with the saw you gain advantage, and if a medic spawned up i dont think he would bother switching to that weapon just to check because you would lose uber % just for going through that. you're well aware when the other team is gonna have it and you don't
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#15
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what

solemn vow shows you enemies' health, not uber charge

what


solemn vow shows you enemies' health, not uber charge
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#16
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It shows both.

It shows both.
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#17
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tranchemusicwhat

solemn vow shows you enemies' health, not uber charge

It shows everything looking at teammates does.

[quote=tranchemusic]what


solemn vow shows you enemies' health, not uber charge[/quote]
It shows everything looking at teammates does.
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#18
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Mantreads unbanned

Mantreads unbanned
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#19
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Heavy not banned, thoughts?

I'm going to be interested to see if weapons like the Baby Face Blaster, Huntsman and Third Degree are used. I noticed Deadringer wasn't listed?

[s]Heavy not banned, thoughts?[/s]

I'm going to be interested to see if weapons like the Baby Face Blaster, Huntsman and Third Degree are used. I noticed Deadringer wasn't listed?
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#20
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But double gunslinger engie mids were fucking amazing QQ

But double gunslinger engie mids were fucking amazing QQ
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#21
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bison unbanned.

I have been waiting seasons for this day.

bison unbanned.

I have been waiting seasons for this day.
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#22
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Neon Annihilator isn't on the list. It's pretty shitty though so whatever.

Neon Annihilator isn't on the list. It's pretty shitty though so whatever.
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#23
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pyro still broken

pyro still broken
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#24
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#19

Huntsman has been unbanned since its inception, Carnage used it like twice back in the hey day on Badlands last and Gravel Pit and that is about it.

#19

Huntsman has been unbanned since its inception, Carnage used it like twice back in the hey day on Badlands last and Gravel Pit and that is about it.
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#25
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Why ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.

Why ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.
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#26
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BerethWhy ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.

Free metal and health. It's bullshit.

[quote=Bereth]Why ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.[/quote]
Free metal and health. It's bullshit.
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#27
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DrPloxoBerethWhy ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.Free metal and health. It's bullshit.

More like free teleport to spawn with no spawn timer. Just speeds up escapes.

[quote=DrPloxo][quote=Bereth]Why ban Eureka Effect? Would make for some interesting gravelpit strats.[/quote]
Free metal and health. It's bullshit.[/quote]

More like free teleport to spawn with no spawn timer. Just speeds up escapes.
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dfy
it replaces ubersaw which i dont think most medics would bother using it, plus most of the time medics and/or pocket soldiers don't have a problem keeping track of uber advantage/disadvantage.

you hit someone with the saw you gain advantage, and if a medic spawned up i dont think he would bother switching to that weapon just to check because you would lose uber % just for going through that. you're well aware when the other team is gonna have it and you don't

I think you're over simplifying it a bit. Unless you see it, you can't account for whether a medic has been healing people at all times. And if you knew exact %'s pushing on that advantage would be a lot easier knowing you have 36% advantage vs "roughly 30" is a pretty big deal.

[quote=dfy]

it replaces ubersaw which i dont think most medics would bother using it, plus most of the time medics and/or pocket soldiers don't have a problem keeping track of uber advantage/disadvantage.

you hit someone with the saw you gain advantage, and if a medic spawned up i dont think he would bother switching to that weapon just to check because you would lose uber % just for going through that. you're well aware when the other team is gonna have it and you don't[/quote]

I think you're over simplifying it a bit. Unless you see it, you can't account for whether a medic has been healing people at all times. And if you knew exact %'s pushing on that advantage would be a lot easier knowing you have 36% advantage vs "roughly 30" is a pretty big deal.
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#29
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Solemn Vow could be interesting...some medics rarely get melee swings in when they aren't guaranteed to die anyways so it might be compelling enough to use.

Solemn Vow could be interesting...some medics rarely get melee swings in when they aren't guaranteed to die anyways so it might be compelling enough to use.
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#30
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Solemn Vow still requires you to be able to see the enemy medic which isn't often considering one medic is usually behind cover. That being said, you can see whether or not they're running krits if your team doesn't realize it on their own. It adds more for the medic to do (check HP of enemies and call who's lit, check uber %, etc) but can cause them to be less reactive with healing since you can't switch heal targets while looking at the enemy unless they align. Also, haven't checked if you can see enemy uber's % while being used, but it'd be amazing for timing attacks after uber finishes since medics can hug during uber trades.

Solemn Vow still requires you to be able to see the enemy medic which isn't often considering one medic is usually behind cover. That being said, you can see whether or not they're running krits if your team doesn't realize it on their own. It adds more for the medic to do (check HP of enemies and call who's lit, check uber %, etc) but can cause them to be less reactive with healing since you can't switch heal targets while looking at the enemy unless they align. Also, haven't checked if you can see enemy uber's % while being used, but it'd be amazing for timing attacks after uber finishes since medics can hug during uber trades.
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