I genuinely think that having the awp slowed down while scoped ACTUALLY made me better at awping.
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CS:GO update for 3/31/15 (4/1/15 UTC, 1.34.7.8)
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The increase in price for the silenced M4 only makes sense as you can murder anyone in a 1v1 easily with it and since it's also really good at long range. People will still buy it as the price increase is not that absurd, it's just that people will learn how to also use the A4 as well.
After playing with the new AWP, I can tell it just sucks holding certain angles with it, but for aggressive AWPing it's still fine as you can just scope in really fast and run away or change positions quickly with your pistol/knife out. Also the changes to Overpass are really good, map is much more fluid.
The increase in price for the silenced M4 only makes sense as you can murder anyone in a 1v1 easily with it and since it's also really good at long range. People will still buy it as the price increase is not that absurd, it's just that people will learn how to also use the A4 as well.
After playing with the new AWP, I can tell it just sucks holding certain angles with it, but for aggressive AWPing it's still fine as you can just scope in really fast and run away or change positions quickly with your pistol/knife out. Also the changes to Overpass are really good, map is much more fluid.
After playing with the new AWP, I can tell it just sucks holding certain angles with it, but for aggressive AWPing it's still fine as you can just scope in really fast and run away or change positions quickly with your pistol/knife out. Also the changes to Overpass are really good, map is much more fluid.
love the new overpass, it keeps getting better n better
love the new overpass, it keeps getting better n better
PyragasI think this update is april fools joke
It'd be "REAL" if it were, but since it's not, it's the real deal.
[quote=Pyragas]I think this update is april fools joke[/quote]
It'd be "REAL" if it were, but since it's not, it's the real deal.
It'd be "REAL" if it were, but since it's not, it's the real deal.
Mr_Owljoetf2Mr_OwlIncreasing m4a1 price lmao pwned silencer users
i mean i guess i cant buy a decoy now
Sorry about your lack of understanding of the macro economy in csgo :/
on the one hand, buying an AUG is approaching the point where it MIGHT be worthwhile
on the other hand, ur looking at losing like $5-1000 over the course of an entire game, so u might lose a few flashes or a pistol or smthng
the weapon is still p much the best wpn for CT if u arent solo holding + its cool af like SOCOM
it might've been nicer if they had made the A4 more of an eco option or smthn so that u could actually justify running it for anything other than personal preference since ur just gonna grab an AK the first round u can if ur using the A4 :\, but idk after playing some MM I haven't really seen any times were I had to give up anything more than a Flash or maybe an HE
[quote=Mr_Owl][quote=joetf2][quote=Mr_Owl]Increasing m4a1 price lmao pwned silencer users[/quote]
i mean i guess i cant buy a decoy now[/quote]
Sorry about your lack of understanding of the macro economy in csgo :/[/quote]
on the one hand, buying an AUG is approaching the point where it MIGHT be worthwhile
on the other hand, ur looking at losing like $5-1000 over the course of an entire game, so u might lose a few flashes or a pistol or smthng
the weapon is still p much the best wpn for CT if u arent solo holding + its cool af like SOCOM
it might've been nicer if they had made the A4 more of an eco option or smthn so that u could actually justify running it for anything other than personal preference since ur just gonna grab an AK the first round u can if ur using the A4 :\, but idk after playing some MM I haven't really seen any times were I had to give up anything more than a Flash or maybe an HE
i mean i guess i cant buy a decoy now[/quote]
Sorry about your lack of understanding of the macro economy in csgo :/[/quote]
on the one hand, buying an AUG is approaching the point where it MIGHT be worthwhile
on the other hand, ur looking at losing like $5-1000 over the course of an entire game, so u might lose a few flashes or a pistol or smthng
the weapon is still p much the best wpn for CT if u arent solo holding + its cool af like SOCOM
it might've been nicer if they had made the A4 more of an eco option or smthn so that u could actually justify running it for anything other than personal preference since ur just gonna grab an AK the first round u can if ur using the A4 :\, but idk after playing some MM I haven't really seen any times were I had to give up anything more than a Flash or maybe an HE
Yeah after playing some with some a1 users it's not that big of a deal. It doesn't seem to interfere with any of the save round meta. I use the a4 and will continue to because I usually end up holding small sites and the spam power of the a4 is v good.
Overpass changes are seriously amazing. Hopefully they take a similar approach with nuke and continue to make minor changes while keeping the feel of the map intact. Overpass has become one of my favorite MM maps.
Yeah after playing some with some a1 users it's not that big of a deal. It doesn't seem to interfere with any of the save round meta. I use the a4 and will continue to because I usually end up holding small sites and the spam power of the a4 is v good.
Overpass changes are seriously amazing. Hopefully they take a similar approach with nuke and continue to make minor changes while keeping the feel of the map intact. Overpass has become one of my favorite MM maps.
Overpass changes are seriously amazing. Hopefully they take a similar approach with nuke and continue to make minor changes while keeping the feel of the map intact. Overpass has become one of my favorite MM maps.
eee, if ur spray is really good and you don't go for headshots a lot stick with the m4 and don't throw it away. It fires faster than an AK.
eee, if ur spray is really good and you don't go for headshots a lot stick with the m4 and don't throw it away. It fires faster than an AK.
why does valve always cave into the plethora of slightly above average players who have absolutely no concept or understanding of how to actually balance things
the only people who should have a say in balance are invite players and other players at the very top of the game because they actually know what the fuck they're doing
why does every game have the same retarded balance philosophy? like the demo damage nerf creating mass hysteria in this community several months back. they wanted to stop demos from spamming stickies and being overpowered and their solution completely broke 6v6
why does valve always cave into the plethora of slightly above average players who have absolutely no concept or understanding of how to actually balance things
the only people who should have a say in balance are invite players and other players at the very top of the game because they actually know what the fuck they're doing
why does every game have the same retarded balance philosophy? like the demo damage nerf creating mass hysteria in this community several months back. they wanted to stop demos from spamming stickies and being overpowered and their solution completely broke 6v6
the only people who should have a say in balance are invite players and other players at the very top of the game because they actually know what the fuck they're doing
why does every game have the same retarded balance philosophy? like the demo damage nerf creating mass hysteria in this community several months back. they wanted to stop demos from spamming stickies and being overpowered and their solution completely broke 6v6
I might be just stupid and forget stuff about this game, but was the movement also increased while having SSG 08 scoped in, even if you walk? I hadn't used AWP before SSG today but it felt way too fast, so I don't think it's that I would have gotten used to AWP movement being slow yet.
I might be just stupid and forget stuff about this game, but was the movement also increased while having SSG 08 scoped in, even if you walk? I hadn't used AWP before SSG today but it felt way too fast, so I don't think it's that I would have gotten used to AWP movement being slow yet.
awp v rifle is not THAT different overall (I guess in certain situations like say moto corner to arch where you might be jiggle peeking so as not to get peeker's advantage'd it's nerfed but not that much overall), but the update really fucked t side awpers attempting to peek into other awpers
for instance, the window peek on mirage used to be relatively t sided because of the spawns, but now I can legit see it swinging the other way just cuz of that extra time before accuracy
awp v rifle is not THAT different overall (I guess in certain situations like say moto corner to arch where you might be jiggle peeking so as not to get peeker's advantage'd it's nerfed but not that much overall), but the update really fucked t side awpers attempting to peek into other awpers
for instance, the window peek on mirage used to be relatively t sided because of the spawns, but now I can legit see it swinging the other way just cuz of that extra time before accuracy
for instance, the window peek on mirage used to be relatively t sided because of the spawns, but now I can legit see it swinging the other way just cuz of that extra time before accuracy
this update just irks me because everyone has complained about the tec9 for so long, they finally nerf it and its pretty laughable. lower clip size (8 bullet difference?) same price and it still rapes...barely a difference from what it was before
anyone who played 1.6 or source would know how retarded the awp nerf is, this completely came out of left field and was totally uncalled for. with the exception of quick scoping difference the mechanics for awp have been the same since the get-go. i seriously hope they change it back or make the movement not as slow at the very least
this update just irks me because everyone has complained about the tec9 for so long, they finally nerf it and its pretty laughable. lower clip size (8 bullet difference?) same price and it still rapes...barely a difference from what it was before
anyone who played 1.6 or source would know how retarded the awp nerf is, this completely came out of left field and was totally uncalled for. with the exception of quick scoping difference the mechanics for awp have been the same since the get-go. i seriously hope they change it back or make the movement not as slow at the very least
anyone who played 1.6 or source would know how retarded the awp nerf is, this completely came out of left field and was totally uncalled for. with the exception of quick scoping difference the mechanics for awp have been the same since the get-go. i seriously hope they change it back or make the movement not as slow at the very least
tec9 nerf is barely a nerf at all
it doesnt do anything to stop tec9 trains on save rounds
tec9 nerf is barely a nerf at all
it doesnt do anything to stop tec9 trains on save rounds
it doesnt do anything to stop tec9 trains on save rounds
you can crouch walk with scout while scoped in at full running speed.
with awp when you get a hostage you scope run faster, not to mention the shift walk acceleration boost.
its just not well thought out/broken
I don't mind if the tec-9 is op because the game is so ct sided. Then again if they nerf it into oblivion I wouldn't really care either.
you can crouch walk with scout while scoped in at full running speed.
with awp when you get a hostage you scope run faster, not to mention the shift walk acceleration boost.
its just not well thought out/broken
I don't mind if the tec-9 is op because the game is so ct sided. Then again if they nerf it into oblivion I wouldn't really care either.
with awp when you get a hostage you scope run faster, not to mention the shift walk acceleration boost.
its just not well thought out/broken
I don't mind if the tec-9 is op because the game is so ct sided. Then again if they nerf it into oblivion I wouldn't really care either.
Worth mentioning that Guardian comfortably carried Navi to a win over fnatic on overpass and JW was able to do work with an awp today in their 3 matches as well.
I think people are being melodramatic about the awp change, the awp in go (prior to this change) despite having the same numerical stats as 1.6 played very differently when peeking because GO naturally favors the peeker
Worth mentioning that Guardian comfortably carried Navi to a win over fnatic on overpass and JW was able to do work with an awp today in their 3 matches as well.
I think people are being melodramatic about the awp change, the awp in go (prior to this change) despite having the same numerical stats as 1.6 played very differently when peeking because GO naturally favors the peeker
I think people are being melodramatic about the awp change, the awp in go (prior to this change) despite having the same numerical stats as 1.6 played very differently when peeking because GO naturally favors the peeker
even guardian himself isn't happy about it..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=879475512101189
even guardian himself isn't happy about it..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=879475512101189
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=879475512101189
wonderlandeven guardian himself isn't happy about it..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=879475512101189
wow an awper dislikes an awp nerf???
amazing........
not at all relevant to my comment, im saying despite the nerf awpers are still buying awps and doing work. which they are
[quote=wonderland]even guardian himself isn't happy about it..
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=879475512101189[/quote]
wow an awper dislikes an awp nerf???
amazing........
not at all relevant to my comment, im saying despite the nerf awpers are still buying awps and doing work. which they are
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=879475512101189[/quote]
wow an awper dislikes an awp nerf???
amazing........
not at all relevant to my comment, im saying despite the nerf awpers are still buying awps and doing work. which they are
im saying despite the nerf awpers are still buying awps and doing work. which they are
no shit they're doing work best awpers in the world aren't going to have a hard time adjusting to this change, no point in going off that example doesn't change the fact that the update is still really dumb
also valve completely contradicting themselves here, trying to balance things out since the game is so incredibly ct sided but this change only made it more difficult to awp on t side
[quote]im saying despite the nerf awpers are still buying awps and doing work. which they are[/quote]
no shit they're doing work best awpers in the world aren't going to have a hard time adjusting to this change, no point in going off that example doesn't change the fact that the update is still really dumb
also valve completely contradicting themselves here, trying to balance things out since the game is so incredibly ct sided but this change only made it more difficult to awp on t side
no shit they're doing work best awpers in the world aren't going to have a hard time adjusting to this change, no point in going off that example doesn't change the fact that the update is still really dumb
also valve completely contradicting themselves here, trying to balance things out since the game is so incredibly ct sided but this change only made it more difficult to awp on t side
what i like is that they keep on nerfing the guns that cost a lot and buffing the ones that cost nothing
what i like is that they keep on nerfing the guns that cost a lot and buffing the ones that cost nothing
defyim saying despite the nerf awpers are still buying awps and doing work. which they are
no shit they're doing work best awpers in the world aren't going to have a hard time adjusting to this change, no point in going off that example doesn't change the fact that the update is still really dumb
also valve completely contradicting themselves here, trying to balance things out since the game is so incredibly ct sided but this change only made it more difficult to awp on t side
considering the change quite literally decreases the ceiling on how useful an awp can be when played perfectly it affects the top awpers as much as anyone, so ya i think its actually super relevant that top awpers are still able to carry in games and still buying awps despite next to no time to relearn the new awping style thats way less scope reliant.
and this is also a big nerf to ct whether you recognize it or not. T side awping is based around a couple things depending on how the team itself plays:
Mid Control (d2/inferno/mirage/cache boost) - and in that sense the only one of those i see impaired by this change is cache, and teams have been moving away from taking mid control with a T-side awp in favor of more set plays anyway. hell d2 and inferno are benefitted because it is now literally impossible to peek with a double scope at full speed or near enough full speed to get the prefire which is the only way cts used to be able to peek t spawn or t stairs on those maps.
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holding angles to keep rotators from retaking
(i would write out similar paragraphs explaining how the current awp still fulfills both those roles but i dont really want to write an essay in response to a post which contains next to no actual points)
tbh what i see hit the hardest by this change isnt t side awping, its ct side. aggressive awp pushes into say A main on cache, or deep into apts on inferno which are predicated on the idea that you can be constantly in a state of peeking ready to stop on a dime, take a shot, and run away. these "sliding awps of death" are not the role the awp fulfilled in 1.6, "aggressive awping" in 1.6 wasnt sliding around in scope, it was setting up in a forward, unexpected spot and waiting for an unsuspecting T.
similarly when holding an angle against rushing T's like say car area on dust 2 against a cat rush the awp cant force the T's into a lose-lose where if they hold they get peeked by a sliding awp and if they peek they get awped.
the awp remains a powerful weapon and one that will see use on T and CT sides, and i find it hard to believe someone can be so incensed by a change which makes the awp fulfill a role more similar to the one it fulfilled in 1.6
[quote=defy][quote]im saying despite the nerf awpers are still buying awps and doing work. which they are[/quote]
no shit they're doing work best awpers in the world aren't going to have a hard time adjusting to this change, no point in going off that example doesn't change the fact that the update is still really dumb
also valve completely contradicting themselves here, trying to balance things out since the game is so incredibly ct sided but this change only made it more difficult to awp on t side[/quote]
considering the change quite literally decreases the ceiling on how useful an awp can be when played perfectly it affects the top awpers as much as anyone, so ya i think its actually super relevant that top awpers are still able to carry in games and still buying awps despite next to no time to relearn the new awping style thats way less scope reliant.
and this is also a big nerf to ct whether you recognize it or not. T side awping is based around a couple things depending on how the team itself plays:
Mid Control (d2/inferno/mirage/cache boost) - and in that sense the only one of those i see impaired by this change is cache, and teams have been moving away from taking mid control with a T-side awp in favor of more set plays anyway. hell d2 and inferno are benefitted because it is now literally impossible to peek with a double scope at full speed or near enough full speed to get the prefire which is the only way cts used to be able to peek t spawn or t stairs on those maps.
entry fragging
holding angles to keep rotators from retaking
(i would write out similar paragraphs explaining how the current awp still fulfills both those roles but i dont really want to write an essay in response to a post which contains next to no actual points)
tbh what i see hit the hardest by this change isnt t side awping, its ct side. aggressive awp pushes into say A main on cache, or deep into apts on inferno which are predicated on the idea that you can be constantly in a state of peeking ready to stop on a dime, take a shot, and run away. these "sliding awps of death" are not the role the awp fulfilled in 1.6, "aggressive awping" in 1.6 wasnt sliding around in scope, it was setting up in a forward, unexpected spot and waiting for an unsuspecting T.
similarly when holding an angle against rushing T's like say car area on dust 2 against a cat rush the awp cant force the T's into a lose-lose where if they hold they get peeked by a sliding awp and if they peek they get awped.
the awp remains a powerful weapon and one that will see use on T and CT sides, and i find it hard to believe someone can be so incensed by a change which makes the awp fulfill a role more similar to the one it fulfilled in 1.6
no shit they're doing work best awpers in the world aren't going to have a hard time adjusting to this change, no point in going off that example doesn't change the fact that the update is still really dumb
also valve completely contradicting themselves here, trying to balance things out since the game is so incredibly ct sided but this change only made it more difficult to awp on t side[/quote]
considering the change quite literally decreases the ceiling on how useful an awp can be when played perfectly it affects the top awpers as much as anyone, so ya i think its actually super relevant that top awpers are still able to carry in games and still buying awps despite next to no time to relearn the new awping style thats way less scope reliant.
and this is also a big nerf to ct whether you recognize it or not. T side awping is based around a couple things depending on how the team itself plays:
Mid Control (d2/inferno/mirage/cache boost) - and in that sense the only one of those i see impaired by this change is cache, and teams have been moving away from taking mid control with a T-side awp in favor of more set plays anyway. hell d2 and inferno are benefitted because it is now literally impossible to peek with a double scope at full speed or near enough full speed to get the prefire which is the only way cts used to be able to peek t spawn or t stairs on those maps.
entry fragging
holding angles to keep rotators from retaking
(i would write out similar paragraphs explaining how the current awp still fulfills both those roles but i dont really want to write an essay in response to a post which contains next to no actual points)
tbh what i see hit the hardest by this change isnt t side awping, its ct side. aggressive awp pushes into say A main on cache, or deep into apts on inferno which are predicated on the idea that you can be constantly in a state of peeking ready to stop on a dime, take a shot, and run away. these "sliding awps of death" are not the role the awp fulfilled in 1.6, "aggressive awping" in 1.6 wasnt sliding around in scope, it was setting up in a forward, unexpected spot and waiting for an unsuspecting T.
similarly when holding an angle against rushing T's like say car area on dust 2 against a cat rush the awp cant force the T's into a lose-lose where if they hold they get peeked by a sliding awp and if they peek they get awped.
the awp remains a powerful weapon and one that will see use on T and CT sides, and i find it hard to believe someone can be so incensed by a change which makes the awp fulfill a role more similar to the one it fulfilled in 1.6
i'm not debating what the awp can and cant do i'm well aware of the points you're making my second comment was mainly directed towards how retarded valve is and their entire concept or "trying to balance the game" i can see reworking maps but i always fear the worst when they mess with guns. i remember when csgo first came out i didn't even bother playing since silenced m4 didn't even exist in the game which was the biggest joke to me since its been a thing in cs since forever, then of course people complained long enough and they finally added it
if you read my previous posts i'm mainly just disappointed by the update because i played 1.3-1.6 and source and my entire focus is around the mechanics of the awp. now it just feels so unnatural to me personally
i'm not debating what the awp can and cant do i'm well aware of the points you're making my second comment was mainly directed towards how retarded valve is and their entire concept or "trying to balance the game" i can see reworking maps but i always fear the worst when they mess with guns. i remember when csgo first came out i didn't even bother playing since silenced m4 didn't even exist in the game which was the biggest joke to me since its been a thing in cs since forever, then of course people complained long enough and they finally added it
if you read my previous posts i'm mainly just disappointed by the update because i played 1.3-1.6 and source and my entire focus is around the mechanics of the awp. now it just feels so unnatural to me personally
if you read my previous posts i'm mainly just disappointed by the update because i played 1.3-1.6 and source and my entire focus is around the mechanics of the awp. now it just feels so unnatural to me personally
are we trying to emulate 1.6?
cause its going to take a lot more than some awp changes, they should start with the crouch mechanic (cs 1.6 was very intelligently designed in that regard, csgo is not)
the awp feels nothing like 1.6
if they decided to leave the awp how it is now (fix the walk acceleration bs) and add 1.6 quickscoping I'd be fine with that. I'm not even mad cause the awp is weak. It just feels shitty and not fun to play with. the closest thing resembling skill is quickscoping but not actually quickscoping but more like a medium quickscope. how dumb is that lets be honest?
add quickscoping, add a crosshair (since you can't stop people using it anyway), increase the hitbox headshot size slightly, make spraying more accurate while crouched, make it take time to crouch and uncrouch like 1.6, fix the jumping hitbox models, make mm 128 tick, make bhopping/movement better, and the game would actually be good/fun
are we trying to emulate 1.6?
cause its going to take a lot more than some awp changes, they should start with the crouch mechanic (cs 1.6 was very intelligently designed in that regard, csgo is not)
the awp feels nothing like 1.6
if they decided to leave the awp how it is now (fix the walk acceleration bs) and add 1.6 quickscoping I'd be fine with that. I'm not even mad cause the awp is weak. It just feels shitty and not fun to play with. the closest thing resembling skill is quickscoping but not actually quickscoping but more like a medium quickscope. how dumb is that lets be honest?
add quickscoping, add a crosshair (since you can't stop people using it anyway), increase the hitbox headshot size slightly, make spraying more accurate while crouched, make it take time to crouch and uncrouch like 1.6, fix the jumping hitbox models, make mm 128 tick, make bhopping/movement better, and the game would actually be good/fun
cause its going to take a lot more than some awp changes, they should start with the crouch mechanic (cs 1.6 was very intelligently designed in that regard, csgo is not)
the awp feels nothing like 1.6
if they decided to leave the awp how it is now (fix the walk acceleration bs) and add 1.6 quickscoping I'd be fine with that. I'm not even mad cause the awp is weak. It just feels shitty and not fun to play with. the closest thing resembling skill is quickscoping but not actually quickscoping but more like a medium quickscope. how dumb is that lets be honest?
add quickscoping, add a crosshair (since you can't stop people using it anyway), increase the hitbox headshot size slightly, make spraying more accurate while crouched, make it take time to crouch and uncrouch like 1.6, fix the jumping hitbox models, make mm 128 tick, make bhopping/movement better, and the game would actually be good/fun
the only new mechanic I like in go is the crouch uncrouch fluidity when spraying honestly
the only new mechanic I like in go is the crouch uncrouch fluidity when spraying honestly
my issue with the awp change is that it's a boring change. honestly if it had full quickscoping capability and they literally made it so you couldn't move i wouldnt care cause then youd at least see cool jump peek shit
wasn't there a dude who built his entire playstyle around entering sites scoped in with an awp? what an uncreative way to shit on him
my issue with the awp change is that it's a boring change. honestly if it had full quickscoping capability and they literally made it so you couldn't move i wouldnt care cause then youd at least see cool jump peek shit
wasn't there a dude who built his entire playstyle around entering sites scoped in with an awp? what an uncreative way to shit on him
wasn't there a dude who built his entire playstyle around entering sites scoped in with an awp? what an uncreative way to shit on him
in a game where headshots matter so much, being able to randomly juke them by spamming your crouch button is pretty broken. its bullshit rng. theres times when I see the guy start to uncrouch (or just know its going to happen) I'm already aiming above him, and I shoot and it hits the body. its like the hitbox instantly snaps to the full height. or the retards that buy armor glock on pistol round and spam crouch vs usp while body shotting/spamming bullets everywhere. I really think its a bad mechanic.. as for the fatigue its just annoying and not very effective at stopping abuse.
I prefer the 1.6 version where you have to commit to a spray. you get better spraydowns from increased accuracy, but its more risky to go into a spray. and no bs crouch spam mid fight. the mini jumps from crouching arecool too
this video sums it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUT7zY1Do4U
and yeah that awper is chrisJ from mouz and hes fucked
in a game where headshots matter so much, being able to randomly juke them by spamming your crouch button is pretty broken. its bullshit rng. theres times when I see the guy start to uncrouch (or just know its going to happen) I'm already aiming above him, and I shoot and it hits the body. its like the hitbox instantly snaps to the full height. or the retards that buy armor glock on pistol round and spam crouch vs usp while body shotting/spamming bullets everywhere. I really think its a bad mechanic.. as for the fatigue its just annoying and not very effective at stopping abuse.
I prefer the 1.6 version where you have to commit to a spray. you get better spraydowns from increased accuracy, but its more risky to go into a spray. and no bs crouch spam mid fight. the mini jumps from crouching arecool too
this video sums it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUT7zY1Do4U
and yeah that awper is chrisJ from mouz and hes fucked
I prefer the 1.6 version where you have to commit to a spray. you get better spraydowns from increased accuracy, but its more risky to go into a spray. and no bs crouch spam mid fight. the mini jumps from crouching arecool too
this video sums it up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUT7zY1Do4U
and yeah that awper is chrisJ from mouz and hes fucked
The only part I dislike is cover abuse
Its nice in pistol fights because it gives you a mix up option if you get tagged
Its not much different than wiggling around, just on a different axis. I've never gone further than crouching and coming back up though (excluding long pistol fights) so I wouldn't care of they limited past that I guess
Disclaimer being I have like 20 wins in this game and mostly just dm but whatever
The only part I dislike is cover abuse
Its nice in pistol fights because it gives you a mix up option if you get tagged
Its not much different than wiggling around, just on a different axis. I've never gone further than crouching and coming back up though (excluding long pistol fights) so I wouldn't care of they limited past that I guess
Disclaimer being I have like 20 wins in this game and mostly just dm but whatever
Its nice in pistol fights because it gives you a mix up option if you get tagged
Its not much different than wiggling around, just on a different axis. I've never gone further than crouching and coming back up though (excluding long pistol fights) so I wouldn't care of they limited past that I guess
Disclaimer being I have like 20 wins in this game and mostly just dm but whatever
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