CPU bottleneck

The 2 biggest fps boosters that have helped me are mat_queue_mode -1 in autoexec.cfg and -nod3d9ex in Steam Launch Options for TF2.

What exactly does -nod3d9ex do? It seems to have the same effect as putting -dxlevel 81 into the launch options for me.

why are you using razer gamebooster or processlasso if youre trying to stream...

idk i just fully installed the stuff from stabby's everything pack

yeah what other people said

tf2 is largely dependent on your cpu, and since streaming takes a ton of processor power (especially if you're streaming @ 60 fps) it's going to take a large toll on your performance

i have similar specs and get massive fps loss while streaming as well, but the only thing you can really do about it is to get a capture card/dedicated streaming set up or upgrade your current parts even further to mitigate the impact that streaming causes

cpu>gpu with tf2
if you wanna stream you are gunna need an i7 processor for the best results at least

would you think it will be better if i sold this processor and bought a i5-4690K

shameless plug for cfg.
http://teamfortress.tv/thread/20172/my-fps-config

if you get a new CPU you need a new Motherboard as well.

Basically fully Disables Aero when you launch TF2.

way better

i was thinking of i5 4670k and asus sabertooth mark s

overpriced shit with useless features you will never use in your lifetime

I thought the FX-8350 was actually really good for streaming? Did I miss something?

I know a good i5 would give you better FPS, but you'd get less of a drop with an FX-8350 due it having 8 threads. An i7 with hyperthreading enabled would probably beat it there though.

#14
You missed the last 3 years.

i5-3570 vs FX-8350 was interesting.
i5-4570 vs FX-8350 isn't.

Why do you think AMD dropped the FX series? They were competing with flagships against Intel's midrange. The best they could come up with was an overclocked version of the same CPU. What Intel came up with (Haswell) destroyed them. As in destroyed the previous flagship vs midrange competition. We're not even talking about i7s.

#15 I definitely did. There's never really much interesting on the processor side anyway since AMD was barely competition even then, so I can't blame myself for not knowing.

So Haswell/Broadwell is a lot better for streaming than Ivy Bridge? I would have thought that Haswell and Broadwell would just be a marginal increase over Ivy Bridge.

#13 sow which MOBO do you recommend me cuz im not really that into it at the moment
just really busy with trying to fix my stream and shit

If you're using windows 7 you may want to check out cpu parking. A friend of mine has an 8350 and she had a few parked cores.

I had a 8320 paired with a HD 7950 and was around 200 to 400 FPS. It isn't a CPU bottleneck.

To OP:

Do not use windows 7 with FX series CPUs. For some reason i get significantly better FPS on windows 8/10 with FX cpus.

Also try messing with core affinity when streaming (have TF2 use threads 0123 and OBS use 4567).

Wait a minute.

How are you streaming TF2? Are you pulling a game capture, or recording the screen?

It almost sounds like you're doing the latter.

^This mite be it. Recording from the screen causes HUGE fps drops.

I'm doing game capture

Are you running in DX8 or DX9?

#16
FX vs Ivy Bridge i5, IB wins like 7/10. Justifies the higher price. Streaming is part of the 3/10 where the FX wins.
FX vs Haswell i5, Haswell wins 9/10. The FX can still win in very specific scenarios but in the real world it won't happen nearly enough to matter.

Really good + barely competition = does not compute
I am confused.

#17
Budget?
What's your goal in terms of fps/settings?

#19

Checks out.
Now try streaming and you'll see the same fps drops OP gets.
Sorry to rain on your parade.

The same as long as you remember to set core affinity. TF2 only really uses 2 cores.

OP, overclock your CPU if you can. Use max frames configs and vpks to increase FPS in tf2 as much as possible. No matter what it's going to drop so you might as well add more head room.

I have a 3570k and overclocking it from 3.4 to 4.2 gave me a bigger FPS boost than some FPS configs, especially for streaming. Don't be scared to do it if you are. The 8350 is a good chip, especially for streaming. Just because it's old doesn't mean you have to change our your whole system for and intel based one (though I do think intel is a LOT better now).

If you get below 120fps after using max frames, vpks, overclocking, and experimenting with using different cores for different tasks then something is probably wrong with your system. I really don't think an 8350 should ever make a game go down to 40fps. That's pretty ridiculous unless you're playing on 32 person servers with shit flying everywhere.

#27 im not really sure how to overclock properly and im maybe planning of selling this CPU and MOBO
#26 i should i put my core affinity
#17 im think of around $300-350 for mobo + cpu
#19 im useing windows 7 sow maybe i should upgrade to 8 but im waiting more on 10 is it out already?
#18 how to do cpu parking properly cuz im pretty intersted in that 1

why not use shadowplay?

Check your gpu clocks, i had problem with my gtx770 using idle clocks because DX8 maxframes TF2 wasn't demanding enough for it.