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That area will never eat a rocket intended for spamming spawn. Most likely it will only eat rockets in 1v1 fights which is really frustrating.

Just because I capped the intel twice did not mean I spent the "entire" lobby doing that. http://logs.tf/782154?highlight=76561198035342207

Believe it or not, so many block bullets were added that the map won't compile anymore. I'm gonna do what it takes to get this version out (there are painful workarounds) but I'll most definitely be closing shop after this.

Man I was just joking around. As Medic, when I usually saw you, that's what I saw, so I thought it was silly and funny. I wasn't accusing you of anything, it's a fucking lobby.

http://puu.sh/hqa8s/3814469a07.jpg a cute flying clip brush

http://fakkelbrigade.eu/maps/koth_viaduct_pro7.bsp

I'd feel bad making another thread after like 3 days :D

changelog (probably missing stuff as always because me and fubar are bad at this)

known bugs (we can't fix them before release as fubar is gone for a while and there's no point postponing this as it's still a 'clearly' better version)

Posted a UGC forum thread asking for teams to test and give feedback. It looks great just walking around in it, but play testing is important.

http://www.ugcleague.net/forum/showthread.php?35030-koth_viaduct_pro7-amp-6&p=202334#post202334

I was bored so i looked around on pro7 for stuff and so on, also first post here yey.

http://i.imgur.com/ILirNXg.jpg
Nail from the boxes only on reds side clipping through the metal sheet.

http://i.imgur.com/ugseDTp.png
The windows in both houses are spazzing out whenever you look at them and move your mouse, happens only from the inside.

http://i.imgur.com/nGidRyl.jpg
One and a half planks completely black, only in blu main.

http://i.imgur.com/N2afN5D.jpg
I don't know if this matters, you can stand on the fences and cap the point without touching the ground.

http://i.imgur.com/Z4VQzBG.jpg
The small house beside both blu and reds spawn have under its roof completely black texture unlike other places on the map.

http://imgur.com/a/7tvf4#ZO2QQIa
The tree on reds right side up on the train track is clipping through a decent bit.

http://i.imgur.com/pTrxg6w.jpg
Highlight of all the things I've discovered of course is some grass clipping through the small rock/ramp up to cliff on reds side.

good luck with pro8 <3

EDIT: Some of these things might be there because i have directx 8 on, fyi

Made an account just to post this since it's been driving me insane:

http://i.imgur.com/OqmUdMP.jpg
The windowsills here clip, I don't know if it's intentional or not but it makes rocket jumping using that wall nearly impossible because you just hit your head unless you go nearly flat. There's nowhere to jump to using them so I think they're essentially useless.

http://i.imgur.com/baM55TL.jpg
If you aim about where I am, you can shoot through the fence here. I know it's on blu side, I didn't check red. This is at the bottom of cliff by the health pack.

The windowsills provide hiding spots for scouts, soldiers, and spies

Could they possibly be clipped from underneath only? Then it wouldn't completely stop momentum.

Did you func_detail them? That was an issue I had when I had a shit ton of them and they wouldn't compile. They're still world brushes unless you func_detail them.

yeah I did func_detail them to prevent cutting visleaves as most of them have pretty irregular shapes. the cut faces contribute toward waterindice as well so either way it's a bit of a pain.

You can get blockbullets to not split visleafs even if they're not func_details by editing the blockbullets material file (because visleafs are cut at compile time and hammer uses custom materials that way); someone on tf2maps.net did that and posted about it and shared their vmf at some point.

Trying to walk forward from here is inconsistent. Sometimes you get stuck sometimes you won't. Happens on both sides of the stack.

http://i.gyazo.com/5a6d022a04108a77fcd38f8653c26512.png

That's because source doesn't handle stepping up "stairs" with sides that are sloped away from you. If the end of the frame puts you on the slope, you stop as if it were a wall. They have to clip it flat to fix it.

Okay, there's been an ongoing discussion about the naming of the map. We've gone from pro_viaduct to viaduct_pro and with each versions, it has been debated if we should name it as final or not some day (which I'm still reluctant to do). regardless, when we look back, the map really came a long way over time, so much so that you could say that the map has developed it's own identity.

So we've been pondering, do we want to keep calling it koth_viaduct_pro? hell, koth_eyeaduct has it's own name. At this point, the map has grown into more than just a pro version. It is a legitimate alternative map with its own design goals. I also feel that calling it a pro version is not entirely accurate either as I believe the map has an appeal for all levels of play, competitive or otherwise. not to mention that "pro" may sound a little elitist and pompous. There's been a lot of talk about bridging the gap between pub an comp, so I figured...

Do we want to reconsider the name of viaduct_pro? Some of the punny (yet quasi serious) names that have been thrown around are koth_product and koth_viable.

P.S. yeah this post really wasn't meant to be this long but there we go... that's just how I feel about it I guess, curious to see how people feel (I'm told that's how discussions are made). Either way, the final touches are being looked at and yeah...

i always preferred koth_pro_viaduct, it sounds so much better than koth_viaduct_pro

koth_viapro hehehe

As sniper, you can shoot under the boards at mid looking into their valley.

pro viaduct is against naming conventions and common sense compared to viaduct pro

and I honestly think viaduct pro is fine, it's still similar to original via just optimised for comp play. But it is your choice, if you wanna change name go for it